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More Ignorance Making the Rounds

Started by dan foster, July 01, 2009, 08:09:05 PM

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Gryphon

Quote from: Anne on July 02, 2009, 10:31:17 AM
Does Mr. Gore live in a large house that consumes more energy than the majority of middle class people do? Does he not tell us we need to conserve, use less energy, lower our heat in winter, raise our air conditioning in summer? Mr. Bush may live in a high energy consuming house, but he hasn't yet told me I can't have my house warm enough to be comfortable in the winter.

It may come as a shock to you that Mr. Gore, as a high ranking dignitary of the US, would find the average middle class home totally inappropriate for his needs. To pretend that any past president or vice president's home/travel/etc. in anyway compares to yours and mine is laughable. :rolleyes:

If I recall correctly, when this tripe first started making the rounds, the Gore house was undergoing a massive renovation aimed at "Greening" it up. Am I correct?

Gryphon


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Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 02, 2009, 08:26:03 AM
the whole point of the story was NOT about Bush as much as it was about Gore.....

Gore is the one telling us that we need to be more GREEN...then not only does he live in the house described here, but he jets all over the world telling people how they should live THEIR lives.....

Henry, Henry, Henry!

I thought you would have learned from the "luxury prison" lie that you shouldn't believe or defend such trash as this.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on July 02, 2009, 11:25:46 AM
Henry, Henry, Henry!

I thought you would have learned from the "luxury prison" lie that you shouldn't believe or defend such trash as this.

Read for yourself, BO, BO, BO...... ;) :razz:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 02, 2009, 11:40:00 AM
Read for yourself, BO, BO, BO...... ;) :razz:


Yeah, yeah ... and once upon a time the Earth was flat.

You just gotta read the dates to make sure you have the latest news.

Your article - last updated March 2007

rebuffed by http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22248699/ (thanks to Gryphon) - dated December 13, 2007

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on July 02, 2009, 11:53:30 AM

Yeah, yeah ... and once upon a time the Earth was flat.

You just gotta read the dates to make sure you have the latest news.

Your article - last updated March 2007

rebuffed by http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22248699/ (thanks to Gryphon) - dated December 13, 2007

Well hell yes he did something about it...........AFTER snope's busted him.......he had to do something.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Isn't it great how you can hold it up, point at it and call it ignorance (and prove it) and they will still embrace it?  Serious WTF...  :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 02, 2009, 12:13:36 PM
Well hell yes he did something about it...........AFTER snope's busted him.......he had to do something.

Henry, for Pete's sake, try using that birdbrain of yours.

They bought the house in 2002.

How long do you think renovations like that would take on an 80-year old house?

"Shinn said Gore's renovations are impressive because his home, which is more than 80 years old, had to meet the same rigorous standards as new construction."

Do you think they just went in and did it all at once?

"The Gores decided to take a series of steps over time "

Of course, all that was in the article and you could have read it yourself, but noooooo .... you would rather not face the truth.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

Quote from: Bo D on July 02, 2009, 12:24:03 PM
Of course, all that was in the article and if you could have read.

FTFY!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

pariann

Quote from: Exterminator on July 02, 2009, 12:14:58 PM
Isn't it great how you can hold it up, point at it and call it ignorance (and prove it) and they will still still embrace it?  Serious WTF...  :rolleyes:
That conversation with the bank must have thrown you off.  You seem to be suffering from redundancy.

:wink:
Looks like I've come full circle.

Exterminator

What do you mean?  What do you mean?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Gryphon

Again, had the poster read the article, he would have noted that the house was undergoing its renovation BEFORE the criticism it received.

"In February, a conservative think tank criticized Gore for using an average of 16,000 kilowatt hours a month for an average monthly bill of $1,206 in 2006. The typical Nashville home uses about 1,300 kilowatt hours a month.

Gore has said the criticism was unfair because the 10,000-square-foot mansion was undergoing extensive remodeling."


Just guessing, but I wonder if the massive energy use the conservative think tank (chuckle!) quotes was DURING construction. As anyone who has had to pay the utilities while living through something like that, it does tend to run up the bill.

That email landed in my inbox more times than I care to remember, usually accompanied by photos of two houses...neither of which belonged to Gore.

Anne

Quote from: Exterminator on July 02, 2009, 10:33:52 AM
And Gore told you that when?

In many of his speeches he states we (the masses) need to conserve, lower our thermostats in winter, run our air conditioning less to use less energy, the same as President Obama says. Wonder what the thermostats are set at in his house.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Anne

Quote from: Gryphon on July 02, 2009, 11:06:17 AM
It may come as a shock to you that Mr. Gore, as a high ranking dignitary of the US, would find the average middle class home totally inappropriate for his needs. To pretend that any past president or vice president's home/travel/etc. in anyway compares to yours and mine is laughable. :rolleyes:

If I recall correctly, when this tripe first started making the rounds, the Gore house was undergoing a massive renovation aimed at "Greening" it up. Am I correct?

I am not saying he should not have his big fancy house, just that he is in no psition to dictate conservation to the rest of us who use far less energy than he does. Also the "letter" was correct in the fact that he does live in a large house that used a lot of energy.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin