United We Serve

[Gardengirl]

What makes you think we Obama haters aren't already doing community service? I volunteer free time to an elementary school where I helped a legally blind teacher several times a week. Sheesh.

[me]

Hasn't other former administrations had pet projects? For the Obama administration it's volunteerism. Encouraging this is a positive thing.

Why should organizations register? Awareness.  Not everyone is aware of all of the potential out there. Honestly. IMO there can't be too many sources of information.

So, me and Henry are you accepting my challenge?

You still didn't come up with a good answer as to why these organizations need to register with the federal government.  Seems like the communities do a fine job of letting people know what is going on all by themselves.  These are already organized in place programs or groups that most people are aware of and a good number of people participate in so why does he think the federal government can do it better?   I may not do physical work but I do give to the food bank, donate cash when I can for the organization that fixes meals for people during the holiday's, and donate to the places that either give or sell clothes inexpensively to those who can't even afford Goodwill.  Those include Operation Love, and the Christian Center. 

[Sandy Eggo]

In every aspect of volunteering from information to the actual act of volunteering...more is better and there isn't a better answer than that.
I'd be willing to bet that most people aren't aware of 1/2 the opportunities in their community. Besides, what if Obama's support of volunteerism served no other purpose other than to inspire someone who may not have otherwise made the time to volunteer...you haven't answered MY question. How is any of this a bad thing?

To answer your question GG..it's been my personal experience that the conservative right-wing nutjobs are in the minority at community service events, but as you pointed out, there are many ways to give back, so I stand corrected.

[me]

In every aspect of volunteering from information to the actual act of volunteering...more is better and there isn't a better answer than that.
I'd be willing to bet that most people aren't aware of 1/2 the opportunities in their community. Besides, what if Obama's support of volunteerism served no other purpose other than to inspire someone who may not have otherwise made the time to volunteer...you haven't answered MY question. How is any of this a bad thing?

To answer your question GG..it's been my personal experience that the conservative right-wing nutjobs are in the minority at community service events, but as you pointed out, there are many ways to give back, so I stand corrected.

And just how is registering with the federal government going to make them any more aware?  Just because some aren't part of an "organized" group don't mean there aren't plenty of people who do their part that you never hear about.  The communities have already organized they don't need the "head community organizer" to do it for them.  This is a state, city thing that the fed's have no business in IMO.

[Henry Hawk]

Hasn't other former administrations had pet projects? For the Obama administration it's volunteerism. Encouraging this is a positive thing.

Why should organizations register? Awareness.  Not everyone is aware of all of the potential out there. Honestly. IMO there can't be too many sources of information.

So, me and Henry are you accepting my challenge? 

Of course it is ALWAYS a good thing....and Sandy, I am one step ahead of you, I have been doing community work for YEARS now, but I will NOT sign up for ANYTHING, that the GOVERNMENT, believes or thinks, that NEEDS a registration.....

Does that make it better?...If the Gov HAS to know WHAT community work that I am doing?

Ex,

Because their intentions are never altruistic; there is always an ulterior motive

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We have NEVER held a gun TO ANYONE,.....and RARELY, have we pushed any religion on them, OTHER, than offering to pray with/for them.......

I'm telling you this Country would feel a world of hurt, IF, the Churches across this country STOPPED helping ..."the least of these"

[Palehorse]

. . ., but I will NOT sign up for ANYTHING, that the GOVERNMENT, believes or thinks, that NEEDS a registration.....

Ummm. . . your church has to register for its tax exempt status, and if you properly document any claimed tithing to said church you are already registered. . . 
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We have NEVER held a gun TO ANYONE,.....and RARELY, have we pushed any religion on them, OTHER, than offering to pray with/for them.......

Just spears, knives, swords, and various apparatus utilized to elicit "confessions". . .
And what about the "converting of the heathens" who were slaughtered by the thousands with gun and cannon fire in the name of this country and God?

[Exterminator]

How is any of this a bad thing?

It isn't; they just love to whine and bitch.

[Henry Hawk]

Ummm. . . your church has to register for its tax exempt status, and if you properly document any claimed tithing to said church you are already registered. . . 

I'm not talking about TITHING...I'm talking about community work, that Obama wants....and thanks, but, it is/was no secret that the Church documents tithing and our tax exempt status....what is your point?...

again, I don't know WHY, a person who wants to do community work, mow a neighbors yard, or whatever, should HAVE to registar with the government to do so...........I think, they got BIGGER fish to fry right now, other than promoting community work.....which, I don't think is a problem right now.

Just spears, knives, swords, and various apparatus utilized to elicit "confessions". . .
And what about the "converting of the heathens" who were slaughtered by the thousands with gun and cannon fire in the name of this country and God?

Okay, maybe it's time to let history go on this, I have NOT read in a paper recently where a Church here in the US has slaughtered thousands, in the name of God...

But, I CAN show you, where Christians ALL across this country GIVE, to the poor, without any STRINGS attached....in the name of God.....WOW, that is just horrible!!

[me]

It isn't; they just love to whine and bitch.

Will the next thing be the communities aren't spending the donated money properly so they have to turn it over to the Obama appointed czar of voluntary organizations to better spend it?  Of course the czar will get his right off the top because he won't be a volunteer.

[Exterminator]

Will the next thing be the communities aren't spending the donated money properly so they have to turn it over to the Obama appointed czar of voluntary organizations to better spend it?  Of course the czar will get his right off the top because he won't be a volunteer.

Or maybe Obama will just wipe his ass with it?  Yeah, that's it...sounds just like something he'd do!

[Sandy Eggo]

Henry - where did you get the idea that individuals have to register w/the government to volunteer?

That's not how it works. The link that I provided is a site that some individual or organization w/a volunteer need can register so that the opportunity is further promoted.

As an individual looking for an opportunity, you would put in your location and maybe filter it with the types of oportunities in your area you're available and/or able to do and a list pops up. You then go to the website of that organization to volunteer or register.

For example, Volunteer San Diego was listed. I've been registered w/that site for a while.

[Exterminator]

Henry - where did you get the idea that individuals have to register w/the government to volunteer?

He made it up so he'd have something to bitch about.

[Palehorse]

I'm not talking about TITHING...I'm talking about community work, that Obama wants....and thanks, but, it is/was no secret that the Church documents tithing and our tax exempt status....what is your point?...

You are the one that used the term "not sign anything". . . I was just pointing out the fact you already are.

Okay, maybe it's time to let history go on this, I have NOT read in a paper recently where a Church here in the US has slaughtered thousands, in the name of God...
. . .

Again, you used the term "never", and I was pointing out that is not quite true. . .now is it?

[Henry Hawk]

Henry - where did you get the idea that individuals have to register w/the government to volunteer?

That's not how it works. The link that I provided is a site that some individual or organization w/a volunteer need can register so that the opportunity is further promoted.

As an individual looking for an opportunity, you would put in your location and maybe filter it with the types of oportunities in your area you're available and/or able to do and a list pops up. You then go to the website of that organization to volunteer or register.

For example, Volunteer San Diego was listed. I've been registered w/that site for a while.

Again, Sandy, promoting Americans to volunteer is a wonderful thing, but IT is not a problem...and I really don't think, there are thousands of Americans JUST waiting to volunteer, but don't know how or who to contact to do so.....there are already THOUSANDS of commercials and programs EVERYWHERE, where Help is needed and appreciated.....

and I know there is NO law, claiming you have to sign ANYTHING to do community work...and I want to see that it never does....for this president to promote this is a GREAT thing....just need to keep an eye on groups like ACORN, who IS funded by Obama, who WANTS their organization to grow and grow.

[Henry Hawk]

You are the one that used the term "not sign anything". . . I was just pointing out the fact you already are.

Again, you used the term "never", and I was pointing out that is not quite true. . .now is it?

I'm talking about present time....I even said, 'recently'....and YOU know my point, quit trying to make it into something it is NOT.....

Christians HAVE DONE great things for the people of this country.....feeding, clothing and housing to name a few.

and Government had NOTHING to do with it.