News:

Welcome Guests! Thank you for visiting the Unknown Zone! Please consider taking the short amount of time it will take to read the Registration Agreement and register for an account. You will have full access to all message boards (some of which are invisible to you now), and you can enjoy a friendly national forum with that local touch!

Main Menu

Benefits Extended To Federal Employees’ Domestic Partners

Started by Sandy Eggo, June 21, 2009, 01:14:30 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Print
Go Down Pages1 2
User actions

Sandy Eggo

June 21, 2009, 01:14:30 PM
President Obama signed a memo that expanded benefits to domestic partners of federal employees, including same-sex couples. What do you think?

QuoteKath Santrello,Systems Analyst "This is just a sneaky way for Obama to make homosexuals American citizens."

QuoteJames Rudow, Edge Burnisher "Like federal employees don't screw around on the job enough as it is. Now they'll be spending all their time on Craigslist trying to find a domestic partner."

QuoteRyan Welker, Golf Range Attendant "How immoral! Accessing a partner's flexible spending account to purchase prescription eyewear with pretax earnings is a right that should only be granted to those in religiously-sanctioned heterosexual relationships."

The Onion*

*The Onion features satirical articles related to current events, however, this is a valid question based on this article:

Thompson News Brief

QuoteA limited number of benefits available to federal employees are now available to their same-sex domestic partners, under a presidential memorandum President Obama signed June 17. The memorandum comes after a review by Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag regarding what benefits could be offered to federal employees' domestic partners without violating existing federal law. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton conducted a similar review concerning the State Department.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

pariann

#1
June 21, 2009, 05:54:44 PM
QuoteKath Santrello,Systems Analyst "This is just a sneaky way for Obama to make homosexuals American citizens."

LOL......I can't stop chuckling.  You mean to tell me that homosexuals born in this country are not already American citizens?
Looks like I've come full circle.

Palehorse

#2
June 21, 2009, 06:04:03 PM
Many large corporations have already done this, and it is about time that the American government did the same. . . I have no problems with this. . . People that live alternative lifestyles are no different than people in a traditional heterosexual relationship, they just get treated differently. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

#3
June 21, 2009, 07:29:00 PM
I certainly hope those people you quoted aren't serious. 
Although I don't agree with the marriage thing a domestic or life partner should have the same rights a married couple have.   
Trump 2020

Sandy Eggo

#4
June 21, 2009, 08:19:48 PM
Quote from: me on June 21, 2009, 07:29:00 PM
I certainly hope those people you quoted aren't serious.

No, those were  satire

Quote from: me on June 21, 2009, 07:29:00 PM
Although I don't agree with the marriage thing a domestic or life partner should have the same rights a married couple have.   

In most states, they can't legally marry, so why not?
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

pariann

#5
June 21, 2009, 11:46:58 PM
Quote from: me on June 21, 2009, 07:29:00 PM
I certainly hope those people you quoted aren't serious. 
Although I don't agree with the marriage thing a domestic or life partner should have the same rights a married couple have.   
But..the same rights a married couple have....was the right to get married.  Hmmm.
Looks like I've come full circle.

me

#6
June 22, 2009, 12:54:04 AM
Quote from: pariann on June 21, 2009, 11:46:58 PM
But..the same rights a married couple have....was the right to get married.  Hmmm.
I meant as far as insurance, tax deductions, and things of that nature. 
Trump 2020

Palehorse

#7
June 22, 2009, 07:24:06 AM
Quote from: me on June 22, 2009, 12:54:04 AM
I meant as far as insurance, tax deductions, and things of that nature.

Isn't that sending mixed signals then? On one hand you are saying they have the same rights, but on the other hand they don't. . . Why all the waffling?  :think:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

LOsborne

#8
June 22, 2009, 07:42:33 AM
Quote from: me on June 22, 2009, 12:54:04 AM
I meant as far as insurance, tax deductions, and things of that nature.
What else is there? You don't have to be married to have babies, and any two people can already buy a house together if they want to.

me

#9
June 22, 2009, 08:16:05 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 22, 2009, 07:24:06 AM
Isn't that sending mixed signals then? On one hand you are saying they have the same rights, but on the other hand they don't. . . Why all the waffling?  :think:
Not really.  It's just saying it is a civil union or domestic partnership rather than a marriage.  I'm from the old school of male female marriage and no other.  It has nothing to do with religion or the Bible.  I do have one question.  Do the people who are hollering for this marriage thing realize that it will then require a divorce to get out of the same as a heterosexual marriage or do they figure they can still walk away like they do now if they decide to change partners?
Trump 2020

Sandy Eggo

#10
June 22, 2009, 08:23:31 AM
I'm sure they are aware. So you're from "old school" so were the people who thought interracial marriages were wrong.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Palehorse

#11
June 22, 2009, 08:24:32 AM
Quote from: me on June 22, 2009, 08:16:05 AM
Not really.  It's just saying it is a civil union or domestic partnership rather than a marriage.  I'm from the old school of male female marriage and no other.  It has nothing to do with religion or the Bible.  I do have one question.  Do the people who are hollering for this marriage thing realize that it will then require a divorce to get out of the same as a heterosexual marriage or do they figure they can still walk away like they do now if they decide to change partners?

Heterosexual relationships have the very same things happen, and alternative lifestyle relationships are no different. . . When they are married and hit the rocks they must legally divorce like any other. . .

You use the terminology "civil union"; am I to take it then that you support a civil ceremony marriage for alternative lifestyle relationships, or was that a slip of the tongue?
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

#12
June 22, 2009, 08:30:43 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 22, 2009, 08:24:32 AM
Heterosexual relationships have the very same things happen, and alternative lifestyle relationships are no different. . . When they are married and hit the rocks they must legally divorce like any other. . .

You use the terminology "civil union"; am I to take it then that you support a civil ceremony marriage for alternative lifestyle relationships, or was that a slip of the tongue?
Why do I have a feeling that I'm 'bout to be told it would be the same difference?  :rolleyes:
Trump 2020

Palehorse

#13
June 22, 2009, 08:38:02 AM
Quote from: me on June 22, 2009, 08:30:43 AM
Why do I have a feeling that I'm 'bout to be told it would be the same difference?  :rolleyes:

I wouldn't know. I've never pushed for religion to endorse such a union or "allow" it. Their "objections" are based upon their belief system and I understand that. (While I may not agree with it I can understand it and their position).

What I have a problem with is the objection to civil unions, (getting married by a judge). What is the problem with that? Religious objections should not sway the decision to allow these to happen because religion is separate from the government. (Or is supposed to be).  :rolleyes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

#14
June 22, 2009, 09:01:13 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 22, 2009, 08:38:02 AM
I wouldn't know. I've never pushed for religion to endorse such a union or "allow" it. Their "objections" are based upon their beliefs systems and I understand that. (While I may not agree with it I can understand it and their position).

What I have a problem with is the objection to civil unions, (getting married by a judge). What is the problem with that? Religious objections should not sway the decision to allow these to happen because religion is separate from the government. (Or is supposed to be).  :rolleyes:
Yes, civil unions or domestic partnerships I agree with.  Although this may not be something I see as normal or natural I do understand and realize it is more than just a mental thing that can be changed through therapy for some which is what a lot of people seem to think.   Hope that made sense.
Trump 2020
Print
Go Up Pages1 2
User actions