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Earth growing colder, threatens crops

Started by Gardengirl, June 14, 2009, 05:31:49 PM

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Henry Hawk

#60
June 16, 2009, 09:46:42 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 16, 2009, 09:42:54 AM
No, there are large amounts of trees and plants because there is ample precipitation (and you've just permanently lost all credibility in any discussion of global warming).

that was JUST a question, I wanted to ask to see your answer....because you lost me on your debate from yesterday.....

ooh...you are cracking me up today!!....... ;D  I am so distraught, that I have NOW lost my credibility with you!!!........gosh almighty!...........I might as well quit posting on here. :-\ :'(
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Exterminator

#61
June 16, 2009, 09:52:14 AM
Seriously, it's 5th grade science.  :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

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Henry Hawk

#62
June 16, 2009, 09:58:23 AM
but it does have climatic effects because of it's vast growth of vegetation, it does recycle water vapor produced by it, and it produces clouds....which produces rain.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#63
June 16, 2009, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 16, 2009, 09:58:23 AM
but it does have climatic effects because of it's vast growth of vegetation, it does recycle water vapor produced by it, and it produces clouds....which produces rain.

Take away all plant life and the amount of available water vapor would drop by at most, 10%. . .  (Not that I am endorsing any such action mind you).
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Exterminator

#64
June 16, 2009, 10:06:10 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 16, 2009, 10:00:21 AM
Take away all plant life and the amount of available water vapor would drop by at most, 10%. . .  (Not that I am endorsing any such action mind you).

...as is proven by the negligible effect deforestation has had on annual precipitation in those areas.  It is un-freaking-believable to me that these people presume to argue about climate change when they don't even understand the most fundamental aspects of the subject.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#65
June 16, 2009, 10:07:49 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 16, 2009, 10:00:21 AM
Take away all plant life and the amount of available water vapor would drop by at most, 10%. . .  (Not that I am endorsing any such action mind you).

That sounds reasonable....I'm actually on your side of this topic....and I hate to admit with Ex....but it really is pretty simple science....but, it DOES have it's own effect, based upon it's existence.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Freethinker

#66
June 16, 2009, 11:13:00 AM
And what would the atmosphere consist of, when you get rid of all plant life and still have water vapor? In fact, it's a stupid scenario... because there would have to be a major catastrophe for there to be no plant life... Most likely it would be something that would devastate the atmosphere, and cause most of the moisture to spew out in the process, and leave an uninhabitable planet..... with creatures from other planets sending their space missions to check and see if life ever existed on the planet Earth, and looking for evidence of water. Sound familiar?

Deforestation does cause climate change and affects in the weather patterns. When you completely deforest the area, you will future generations will see the resultant effects.

Historically, areas that lost their vegetation over 100s and 1000s of years became barren and have little rainfall.

The REAL problem here is that you are discussing weather patterns in real-time, and not looking to the future, or the future generations that will live (or maybe not even exist) because of the footprint we have left.



Palehorse

#67
June 16, 2009, 11:17:27 AM
Quote from: Freethinker on June 16, 2009, 11:13:00 AM
. . .In fact, it's a stupid scenario... because there would have to be a major catastrophe for there to be no plant life...

Then why are you squalling about it then? You're the one using GW jargon as a scare tactic. . .
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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Elaine

#68
June 17, 2009, 10:34:23 AM
This has just gone way to far.

I thought we just were not mowing grass.

Red meat is not bad for you, fuzzy green meat is bad for you.

followsthewolf

#69
June 17, 2009, 01:01:56 PM
Wow. Christopher Booker again. Thought his brain had rotted years ago from stagnation.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Exterminator

#70
June 17, 2009, 01:04:46 PM
Quote from: followsthewolf on June 17, 2009, 01:01:56 PM
Wow. Christopher Booker again. Thought his brain had rotted years ago from stagnation.

It did but that doesn't prevent him from writing articles or the clueless from believing them.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

#71
June 17, 2009, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 17, 2009, 01:04:46 PM
It did but that doesn't prevent him from writing articles or the clueless from believing them.
Guess he figures if it didn't prevent Al Bore from writing it shouldn't him either.   :biggrin:
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Exterminator

#72
June 17, 2009, 01:50:48 PM
Quote from: me on June 17, 2009, 01:35:15 PM
Guess he figures if it didn't prevent Al Bore from writing it shouldn't him either.   :biggrin:

And I'm sure you find no difference in their credibility.   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

followsthewolf

#73
June 17, 2009, 01:57:08 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 17, 2009, 01:50:48 PM
And I'm sure you find no difference in their credibility.   :rolleyes:


Now, that's funny right there.  :rotfl:
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

me

#74
June 17, 2009, 02:14:50 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 17, 2009, 01:50:48 PM
And I'm sure you find no difference in their credibility.   :rolleyes:
Nope.  Neither one is credible IMO  :razz:
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