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Earth growing colder, threatens crops

Started by Gardengirl, June 14, 2009, 05:31:49 PM

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Freethinker

While it is more likely to rain in green areas, of course it is only partially due to transpiration. Because the plants need water anyway for the photosynthesis process, the percentages would eventually dwindle down to nothing, without water from an outside source... a source moving across the planet from the oceans.

QuoteSo now you are saying if we'd stop cutting grass and harvesting trees, all the deserts would magically disappear due to the vast increase in annual rainfall it would drive?

No Palehorse, that's not what I'm saying. You can't replace the rainforests. Once you've deforested the areas, that's it. It would take a major catastrophe to refertilize the earth again and start over.

And moving water via pipeline to desert areas to create a gambler's paradise is not the answer either, because you are depleting another area's aquifiers, and will eventually leave them without water, too.



Freethinker

Dear Testosterone Posters -- WHERE did I attribute rain to transpiration only?

LOL.

Palehorse

Quote from: Freethinker on June 15, 2009, 10:47:07 AM
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The disappearing green is also a major concern. Green calls the rain, and when the green is gone, so is the rain. . .


Right here!
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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Exterminator

Quote from: Palehorse on June 15, 2009, 03:07:31 PM
So now you are saying if we'd stop cutting grass and harvesting trees, all the deserts would magically disappear due to the vast increase in annual rainfall it would drive?

Put the pipe down and step away from the keyboard. . .

That's exactly what she's saying...the scary part is that she really thinks it's true!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Freethinker on June 15, 2009, 03:20:53 PM
While it is more likely to rain in green areas...

No, you dolt; areas where it rains are more likely to be green.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Freethinker


No Palehorse, saying that the green calls the rain was in no way saying that transpiration is the cause.

I explained in detail the processes that are involved, and I said the green aids in that process, altering the atmospheric conditions.

NOW....

Look at East versus West Texas.... or East versus Western Oklahoma.... Where does most of the rain dump?

In the green side of the state. Is that because East Texas or East Oklahoma are closer to the equator?

Where it has gone barren, you have dry lines develop and sometimes some fairly nasty winds and weather, and yes, you will get some heavy rains at times... but the bulk of the rains pass over and dump in the green areas. We're talking a 2 to 1 ratio or more.





Palehorse

Quote from: Freethinker on June 15, 2009, 04:03:50 PM
No Palehorse, saying that the green calls the rain was in no way saying that transpiration is the cause.

I explained in detail the processes that are involved, and I said the green aids in that process, altering the atmospheric conditions.

NOW....

Look at East versus West Texas.... or East versus Western Oklahoma.... Where does most of the rain dump?

In the green side of the state. Is that because East Texas or East Oklahoma are closer to the equator?

Where it has gone barren, you have dry lines develop and sometimes some fairly nasty winds and weather, and yes, you will get some heavy rains at times... but the bulk of the rains pass over and dump in the green areas. We're talking a 2 to 1 ratio or more.

Quote from: Exterminator on June 15, 2009, 03:45:32 PM
No, you dolt; areas where it rains are more likely to be green.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Go swab the deck and leave the navigating to those able and willing to read the instruments then. . .

You do realize what "Las Vegas" means don't you? The Meadows; named by Rafael Rivera. In the 1800's the area contained vast green areas. . .

In pre-historic times the area was virtual marsh of abundant water and vegetation. The rivers that once ran at ground level are now underground due to natural erosion and because of this the marsh receded.

The discovery in 1993 of the remains of a Columbian mammoth from 8-15 thousand years ago supports this, as well as the geological record.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

Quote from: Freethinker on June 15, 2009, 04:03:50 PM
I explained in detail the processes that are involved, and I said the green aids in that process, altering the atmospheric conditions.

And you're dead-assed wrong.  According to you, planting trees in the desert would cause it to rain there, thereby magically transforming it into a lush forest and that simply isn't true.  I asked you to provide any information that supports this claim and that was not forthcoming...because there is no evidence to support such an assinine position.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

LOsborne

Quote from: Freethinker on June 15, 2009, 04:11:40 PM
Okay... enough, Palehorse and Exterminator...
... and I'm guessing most of the testosterone is posting on their employer's dime.
Why do you think the posts of Ex and PH are testosterone laden? I haven't seen any references to the 3 B's: boobs, butts, and blow jobs. And I certainly haven't seen that most obvious of testosterone-markers : "Here, hold my beer. I got an idea."

mcgonser

No 3 b's I admit. Just condensending, macho, I am better and smarter than you attitude by Ex: I can't say the same about Pale. I don't feel that PH is that way. While Ex is degrading to women that disagree with him. It really makes me wonder??????????
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

LOsborne

Quote from: mcgonser on June 15, 2009, 08:36:38 PM
... Ex is degrading to women that disagree with him...
Why do you say "women that disagree with him?" I seem to recall he is border-line toxic to Henry sometimes, too. Besides, get him out of the unmoderated section, and he the soul of gentility. You object (I think it was you, it was definitely me, and maybe Freethinker) to people playing the race card about Obama. So why is it okay to play the gender card when someone disagrees with you? If ya can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch.

Elaine

Quote from: Exterminator on June 15, 2009, 03:43:58 PM
That's exactly what she's saying...the scary part is that she really thinks it's true!

Well my vote is to never mow grass again.  I can do my part. 
:biggrin:
Red meat is not bad for you, fuzzy green meat is bad for you.

Freethinker

Well-- here's the deal guys...

As long as you refer to us as "old biddies,"... I will refer to your sprays of testosterone.

Your choice.


Locutus

I think you could come up with something far better than "old biddies" and "sprays of testosterone."  This is the unmoderated area after all.  :razz: :biggrin:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

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