Womb Days

[mcgonser]

Dan, I do believe that we all have a soul that is God given. Even babies in the womb.That is my opinion.

[LOsborne]

You act like the "soul" is something real.  Do you believe you have a ghost in you just waiting to get out?

Not only that ... most people have a skeleton inside them! doo-doo-dee-doo, doo-doo-dee-doo (That was the Twilight Zone theme, in case ya'll didn't recognize it.)

[mcgonser]

come to think of it. The bible teaches about the holy ghost or spirit that is inside us.

[pariann]

You act like the "soul" is something real.  Do you believe you have a ghost in you just waiting to get out?

Yes I do.  And how much do you want to bet.....Palehorse believes it too.

[Locutus]

Doesn't much matter who wins that argument, does it?  Since the ghost isn't supposed to get out until you croak, there will be no way to collect on your bet unless two ghosts meet sometime after both of you meet your demise. 

[Locutus]

However, if beer exists, and fine female ghosts exist, then I hope there is a ghost inside me waiting to escape.  I'm sure he'll indulge in such in the afterlife. 

[pariann]

Doesn't much matter who wins that argument, does it?  Since the ghost isn't supposed to get out until you croak, there will be no way to collect on your bet unless two ghosts meet sometime after both of you meet your demise. 

The "bet" is about belief....not fact.   


AND have you ever heard of Astral projection?  Hmmm....might be a thought there on collecting on bets before death.

[Locutus]

The "bet" is about belief....not fact.   


AND have you ever heard of Astral projection?  Hmmm....might be a thought there on collecting on bets before death.

Yeah, I've heard of it.  I've also heard of "remote viewing" which I cast in the same category as astral projection.

The problem with we humans is that we seem to have an inherent fear of death.  We need to believe that some part of us goes on regardless on any shred of evidence that's the case.  So we conjure up heaven (for us), hell (for everyone we despise or who despises us), spirits, astral projection, reincarnation, or whatever we need to make us feel better about the fact that all of us are going to die. 

[Locutus]

Oh, and as to your belief, you'll still never collect on that bet. 

[Palehorse]

. . .if we can't remember being an infant, how would you really expect us to remember being a fetus?

The cerebral cortex is the outer layer of the brain and comprises 80% of it and is responsible for our consciousness of self, ability to think, plan, perceive, communicate etc.. .The brains' physical development is only partly complete at birth, and continues at fetal rates for another year before all key areas are built. . . 

I provided the answer to your question, (which supports the opposing position), within a prior post on purpose; to prove that some are so lazy that they won't even read what is posted here and grasp that the opposition has provided them with ammunition.

Some of you oppose simply out of dislike and an intention to instigate discourse.

Enough said. . .

[LOsborne]

I provided the answer to your question...

Palehorse, it's early here, and I haven't had enough coffee, so please tell me which question you provided the answer to.
1. Have you heard of astral projection?
2. Doesn't matter who winds the argument, doe it?
3. Do you believe you have a ghost inside you?

It's not yet 7:30 here. I don't do paranormal investigation before 8:00. It's in my contract with the PPDC.

[pariann]

Oh, and as to your belief, you'll still never collect on that bet. 

I'm not quite understanding how you know I would never collect on a particular bet.  If I tell you:  I bet John Doe will tell you that he believes the sun rises every morning, and then John Doe says he believes the sun rises every morning.  I just won a bet.  Now....if there is a wager made and you don't pay up, then it's not that I can't collect on it, it's that you won't pay.   

All I said is how much do you wanna bet, Palehorse believes that we have a ghost waiting to get out as well.  If he said yes, I also believe that, then I was correct, right?  I did not say that any of us had hard evidence that the 'soul' as a spirit/ghost exists.  I don't recall Dan taking up the bet, and making a wager, so there is actually no bet to collect on.   Just a comment that I think someone else in particular may believe something that I also believe.

[Palehorse]

Palehorse, it's early here, and I haven't had enough coffee, so please tell me which question you provided the answer to.
1. Have you heard of astral projection?
2. Doesn't matter who winds the argument, doe it?
3. Do you believe you have a ghost inside you?

It's not yet 7:30 here. I don't do paranormal investigation before 8:00. It's in my contract with the PPDC.

1. Yep. And I sometimes enjoy it! 
2. Right. (if "winds" = wins and "doe" = does) 
3. Does it really matter what I believe? Probably not. Yes, I believe we have an eternal soul/spirit. As a matter of fact so do most religions. (Most, not all). It is what a lot of the fighting is supposed to be over twixt good and evil isn't it? The "possession" or "ownership" of our eternal soul/spirit. . .

[Palehorse]

All I said is how much do you wanna bet, Palehorse believes that we have a ghost waiting to get out as well.  If he said yes, I also believe that, then I was correct, right?  I did not say that any of us had hard evidence that the 'soul' as a spirit/ghost exists.  I don't recall Dan taking up the bet, and making a wager, so there is actually no bet to collect on.   Just a comment that I think someone else in particular may believe something that I also believe.

I've outlined my perspectives on ghosts / spirits in the past. . .

[pariann]

I know most of what you believe PH.    Didn't mean to make you the target of discussion.    But how come Dan poked at me and not you?  Has he not been reading your thoughts and belief on when the 'soul' enters the body?