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Should Scott Roeder receive the death penalty?

Started by Bo D, June 10, 2009, 01:12:46 PM

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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on June 11, 2009, 08:13:24 AM
You really don't have a clue.  They don't have to have anything except food (which is pretty cheap...they're not feeding them steak and lobster in there), a place to sleep, access to personal hygiene facilities and health care only if they are sick or injured.  There is no requirement for any TV time or library time or any of the rest of that crap and most prisons are now non-smoking facilities.  Those that are not do not supply cigarettes.

YOU are wrong EX,

Those that are on good behavior, in Pendleton anyway, can go to the correctional building across the street, and they get movies, workout, have volleyball tournaments, have access to snacks and pop.  THIS, is from people who have worked in there and have told me first hand.

No, those who cannot stay on good behavior, go back, and lose a few privileges.

LO,

I have not heard about these.....I think something needs to be done about our penal system.

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 11, 2009, 08:23:50 AM
YOU are wrong EX,

Those that are on good behavior, in Pendleton anyway, can go to the correctional building across the street, and they get movies, workout, have volleyball tournaments, have access to snacks and pop.  THIS, is from people who have worked in there and have told me first hand.

No, those who cannot stay on good behavior, go back, and lose a few privileges.

No, I'm not wrong; you're changing your story.  Before, you said they have to have those things and now you're saying that they are rewards for good behavior...which is it?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on June 11, 2009, 08:30:31 AM
No, I'm not wrong; you're changing your story.  Before, you said they have to have those things and now you're saying that they are rewards for good behavior...which is it?

Okay, they don't HAVE to HAVE them, but many of them DO get them....as long as they are on "good" behavior....that WAS an error, but my point being is,......they are allowed too many privilidges, at the taxpayers expense.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 11, 2009, 08:35:36 AM
Okay, they don't HAVE to HAVE them, but many of them DO get them....as long as they are on "good" behavior....that WAS an error, but my point being is,......they are allowed too many privilidges, at the taxpayers expense.

Yeah, because having no incentives inplace to encourage order would certainly be cheaper in the long run; right?

That notwithstanding, your original point seemed to suggest that it is more expensive to house them than it is to execute them which as Gryphon pointed out is incorrect.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 11, 2009, 08:23:50 AM
YOU are wrong EX,

Those that are on good behavior, in Pendleton anyway, can go to the correctional building across the street, and they get movies, workout, have volleyball tournaments, have access to snacks and pop.  THIS, is from people who have worked in there and have told me first hand.

No, those who cannot stay on good behavior, go back, and lose a few privileges.

LO,

I have not heard about these.....I think something needs to be done about our penal system.

Are you referring to the inmates of the minimum security section or the maximum security section of Pendleton?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on June 11, 2009, 09:04:06 AM
Are you referring to the inmates of the minimum security section or the maximum security section of Pendleton?

Those who have been on good behavior, can transfer from the max to the min. section in Pendleton. 

and ex, I had already stated, that it IS more expensive to execute than it is to house them, but only because of the appeals process and lawyers expense that is in place.  MY  point was, for those, who have been 100%, without any doubt, guilty of a brutal murder, should NOT be allowed this expensive, time and money consuming process. 
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Quote from: LOsborne on June 10, 2009, 09:47:44 PM
Oh crap! Have they spread up north too? The PPDC (Paranoid People of Daviess County) have been investigating this threat. All indications are they have come from the flesh-eating bacteria which is carried by the chupacabras, cross-breeding with brown floaters from Hawkins Creek. A friend of mine has developed a chupacabras repellent, but it smells wretched, and has no effect on the mutated bacteria. We are currently seeking a natural predator for this scourge.

I am team leader of the RMMT (Rapid Margarita Mixing Team) branch of the PPDC. If you are interested, we could set up a network for sharing intelligence.

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Y'all crackin' me up!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 11, 2009, 08:35:36 AM
Okay, they don't HAVE to HAVE them, but many of them DO get them....as long as they are on "good" behavior....that WAS an error, but my point being is,......they are allowed too many privilidges, at the taxpayers expense.

Henry, what if it were changed so that a convicted murderer was sentenced to life, no chance ever for parole, solitary, no privileges? Would you still be opposed?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 11, 2009, 09:11:15 AM
and ex, I had already stated, that it IS more expensive to execute than it is to house them, but only because of the appeals process and lawyers expense that is in place.  MY  point was, for those, who have been 100%, without any doubt, guilty of a brutal murder, should NOT be allowed this expensive, time and money consuming process.

I see; so our legal system doesn't meet with your approval.  You should find a country who has one that does and move there!   :razz:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on June 11, 2009, 09:19:26 AM
Henry, what if it were changed so that a convicted murderer was sentenced to life, no chance ever for parole, solitary, no privileges? Would you still be opposed?

I would be fine with that..I'm not thrilled about capital punishment, but I'm not 100% against either...also, I still think we need to re-evaluate our prison systems....there is a lot of corruption and waste ..... very similar to our legislator system...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 11, 2009, 09:27:37 AM
...also, I still think we need to re-evaluate our prison systems....there is a lot of corruption and waste ..... very similar to our legislator system...

And our construction industry!   :biggrin:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on June 11, 2009, 09:43:22 AM
And our construction industry!   :biggrin:

okay,  I have not had any coffee this morning.........that one flew..RIGHT over me.....I don't get it.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 11, 2009, 09:53:42 AM
okay,  I have not had any coffee this morning.........that one flew..RIGHT over me.....I don't get it.

Don't you work in the construction industry?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on June 11, 2009, 10:10:27 AM
Don't you work in the construction industry?

okay!!!.....GOT IT!!.........corruption, waste...........and you think...okay..........that was a shot at..at..at ME??......... :spooked:

who pissed in your Wheaties this morning?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 11, 2009, 10:14:32 AM
who pissed in your Wheaties this morning?

Didn't have wheaties...had biscuits and gravy!   :smitten:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.