Missing Air France jet 'hit by electric fault'

[Palehorse]

  It goes to show you there is no hiding place of earth if the United States is after you, even if you a black box.  Do you think that the dumbass raghead could find Osama Bin Laden's body in the ocean.   

  I made a mistake of putting this post of the Republican's suck topic.  I wonder how long it take the Mosquito Hawk will find it.   

Yeah, it's the French that are undertaking the current search and recovery operations. . . (I know, who would have thought!?!) 

[The Troll]

Yeah, it's the French that are undertaking the current search and recovery operations. . . (I know, who would have thought!?!) 

  You got to be kidding me.  THE FRENCH.  WOW!

[Palehorse]

  You got to be kidding me.  THE FRENCH.  WOW!

I know! Right!?! 

[The Troll]

I know! Right!?! 

  What did they do, dig up Jacques Cousteau?  Now he knew about under water searching, he was good.  That hard to say about a lot of Frenchmen. 

  That remind me of a story of some French president told the United States to get everything we had in France, out.  I can't remember the person.  But he said.  Does that include all of the American soliders that were killed in France protecting your ass.  That ended the conversation.

[Palehorse]

  What did they do, dig up Jacques Cousteau?  Now he knew about under water searching, he was good.  That hard to say about a lot of Frenchmen. 

  That remind me of a story of some French president told the United States to get everything we had in France, out.  I can't remember the person.  But he said.  Does that include all of the American soliders that were killed in France protecting your ass.  That ended the conversation.

[Palehorse]

. . .Four hours and six minutes into the flight, one of the co-pilots, referred to as PF, called the cabin crew, telling them that: "In two minutes we should enter an area where it'll move about a bit more than at the moment, you should watch out... I'll call you back as soon as we're out of it."
The report said that four hours and 10 minutes into the flight: "The autopilot [and] then [the] auto-thrust disengaged," and co-pilot PF said: "I have the controls." The report said the stall warning sounded twice in a row.
A short time later the other co-pilot, referred to as PNF said: "So, we've lost the speeds." A second later the stall warnings sounded again the report said.
At about this time, "The speed displayed on the left side increased sharply," the report said. The aircraft was then at an altitude of about 37,500 feet.
The report said that at this time co-pilot PNF tried several times to call the captain back to the cockpit.
The aircraft then climbed to 38,000 feet and at around four hours 11 minutes and 40 seconds into the flight, the captain re-entered the cockpit. During the following seconds all of the recorded speeds became invalid and the stall warning stopped, the report said.
Co-pilot PF said: "I don't have any more indications," and the co-pilot PNF said "we have no valid indications."
About a minute later co-pilot PF said: "We're going to arrive at level one hundred." This is a height of 10,000 feet. About fifteen seconds later, the data recorder indicate "simultaneous inputs by both pilots on the sidesticks."
The recordings stopped at four hours 14 minutes and 28 seconds into the flight. A full investigation into the crash is expected next year. . .

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/05/27/air.france.447.crash/index.html?hpt=T2

[Palehorse]

75 more bodies have been recovered from the sea floor - all victims of this crash - 2 years later.

While I have no dog in this hunt, I tend to agree with those amongst the victims families, who have stated their wish to let their remains stay at the bottom of the sea. . .

I just wonder how much knowledge can be realistically obtained from the remains after all this time has passed, to help explain what transpired ????

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/05/31/france.jet.crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

I am sure the bones have their "tale to tell", however, I am not sure that tale will provide any useful information. . . I may be wrong. . .

[Locutus]

Hate to bump this old thread, but upcoming this week:

Report on Air France crash released

France's Bureau of Investigation and Analysis will publish its final report on the crash of Air France Flight 447 over the Atlantic Ocean. All 228 people aboard were killed when the plane crashed in stormy weather en route to Paris from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on June 1, 2009.

It took four searches and nearly two years to locate the bulk of the Airbus 330-300's wreckage, still containing many bodies, in a mountain range deep beneath the surface. More than 70 bodies were never recovered.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/01/ahead-of-the-curve-the-next-7-days-88/?hpt=hp_t2

[Palehorse]

Hate to bump this old thread, but upcoming this week:

Report on Air France crash released

France's Bureau of Investigation and Analysis will publish its final report on the crash of Air France Flight 447 over the Atlantic Ocean. All 228 people aboard were killed when the plane crashed in stormy weather en route to Paris from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on June 1, 2009.

It took four searches and nearly two years to locate the bulk of the Airbus 330-300's wreckage, still containing many bodies, in a mountain range deep beneath the surface. More than 70 bodies were never recovered.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/01/ahead-of-the-curve-the-next-7-days-88/?hpt=hp_t2

Someone I know told me that the accident is a result of a mechanical failure. That the jackscrew that moves the (i may be terming this wrong here) tail flaps stuck, and when they got it straight and  level again the crew cycled it again, stripping the threads and sending them into a dive from which they had no control to recover from.

[Locutus]

Someone I know told me that the accident is a result of a mechanical failure. That the jackscrew that moves the (i may be terming this wrong here) tail flaps stuck, and when they got it straight and  level again the crew cycled it again, stripping the threads and sending them into a dive from which they had no control to recover from.

The jackscrew doomed Alaska Airlines Flight 261.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Airlines_Flight_261

I've never heard it mentioned as a possible cause of the Air France disaster.

[Palehorse]

The jackscrew doomed Alaska Airlines Flight 261.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Airlines_Flight_261

I've never heard it mentioned as a possible cause of the Air France disaster.

I'm not too confident of the individual who told me that. He's an aviation mechanic in training working where I do for the summer. He said though that one of his instructors was involved in the analysis of the data from the Air France flight, and that's where he heard it. He may be mixing accident information though. . . I can't wait to hear what the actual report says. 

[Palehorse]

The jackscrew doomed Alaska Airlines Flight 261.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Airlines_Flight_261

I've never heard it mentioned as a possible cause of the Air France disaster.

The article sounds just like his description to me. I'm now betting he was referring to this flight and not the AIr France flight. . . That picture of the jackscrew looks like what he described to me as well.

[Locutus]

Here's a very good read about this Air France crash from a couple of months ago.  It's lengthy, but worth the time if you're so inclined.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/9231855/Air-France-Flight-447-Damn-it-were-going-to-crash.html

[Palehorse]

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/aviation/crashes/what-really-happened-aboard-air-france-447-6611877

Yeah, this one sheds a lot of light on what the report will likely say. . .

[Palehorse]

Here's a very good read about this Air France crash from a couple of months ago.  It's lengthy, but worth the time if you're so inclined.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/9231855/Air-France-Flight-447-Damn-it-were-going-to-crash.html

Yup. Same conclusions that the PM article I posted arrived at, basically. Pilot error.

Holy hell.  .  . I can just picture that idiot sitting there with the stick pulled back the entire time. . .