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Missing Air France jet 'hit by electric fault'

Started by Palehorse, June 01, 2009, 09:19:56 AM

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Henry Hawk

#120
June 17, 2009, 04:14:19 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 17, 2009, 03:29:18 PM
Given that the plane reported that the cabin had depressurized, it is unlikely anyone was even conscious.

do you remember when Payne Stewart the golfer died in a plane accident........the cause was depressurization of the plane....they said, he merely passed out within a few seconds...I'm guessing that was the case here too.
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Locutus

#121
June 17, 2009, 04:34:28 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 17, 2009, 03:29:18 PM
Given that the plane reported that the cabin had depressurized, it is unlikely anyone was even conscious.

At that altitude, and if the masks didn't deploy, they would have had around 15 seconds or so before losing consciousness.  You may be right. 
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Locutus

#122
June 17, 2009, 04:37:23 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 17, 2009, 04:14:19 PM
do you remember when Payne Stewart the golfer died in a plane accident........the cause was depressurization of the plane....they said, he merely passed out within a few seconds...I'm guessing that was the case here too.

IIRC, that was a slow loss of pressure, so everyone would have started to get sleepy as the hypoxia set in.  I'm going to look up that info and see if I'm recalling correctly.   
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Locutus

#123
June 17, 2009, 04:50:23 PM
Yep, I was right.

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Early in the flight, the aircraft was cruising at altitude on autopilot and gradually lost cabin pressure. As a result, all on board died of hypoxia, a lack of oxygen. The aircraft continued its flight over the southern and midwestern United States for almost four hours and 1,500 miles (2,400 km), until it ran out of fuel and crashed into a field near Aberdeen, South Dakota after an uncontrolled descent.[1] Among the six people on board were golf star Payne Stewart and Bruce Borland, a highly regarded golf architect with the Jack Nicklaus golf course design company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash

Jeebus!  I can't believe that's been 10 years ago. 
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dan foster

#124
June 17, 2009, 09:46:00 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 17, 2009, 04:14:19 PM
do you remember when Payne Stewart the golfer died in a plane accident........the cause was depressurization of the plane....they said, he merely passed out within a few seconds...I'm guessing that was the case here too.

Actually, Stewart's plane had a faulty valve that never allowed the plane to pressurize, which lulled the crew and passengers to sleep.  Not quite the same as rapid depressurization.
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Palehorse

#125
June 19, 2009, 01:08:30 PM
More speculation surrounding this loss of craft:


  • 95% of the recovered bodies show fractures in the hips, legs, and arms, and have no clothing on them
  • Low incidence of cranial trauma indicates that the craft did not nose dive into the water.
  • A large number of the bodies also had red lesions in their mucous membranes, which is associated with asphyxia
  • All of the bodies found were "mutilated" which along with the no clothing item is a strong indication of violent depressurization caused by structural rupture.

No CVR / FDR recovery as of yet and the window of time is closing rapidly. . .
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Palehorse

#126
June 25, 2009, 08:20:54 AM
They've ID'd the bodies of the flight captain and a steward among the bodies recovered. . .

Still no CVR or FDR located. . .
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Palehorse

#127
June 30, 2009, 07:19:13 AM
Another Airbus 310 has gone down over water, off the coast of Yemen. 150 people aboard and thus far only a small child has been found alive.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/06/30/yemen.plane.crash/index.html
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Exterminator

#128
June 30, 2009, 10:43:11 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 30, 2009, 07:19:13 AM
Another Airbus 310 has gone down over water, off the coast of Yemen. 150 people aboard and thus far only a small child has been found alive.

Terrorists!   :eek:
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Palehorse

#129
June 30, 2009, 10:44:07 AM
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Exterminator

#130
June 30, 2009, 10:49:27 AM
They need to waterboard that kid; he knows something.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

#131
June 30, 2009, 10:50:38 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 30, 2009, 10:49:27 AM
They need to waterboard that kid; he knows something.
:spooked: :rotfl:
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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pariann

#132
June 30, 2009, 10:51:25 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 30, 2009, 10:49:27 AM
They need to waterboard that kid; he knows something.
ROFL....shut up!!!
Looks like I've come full circle.

Palehorse

#133
June 30, 2009, 10:56:46 AM
Funny thing, Jacko (still!  :rolleyes: ) and some toxic town in OK both outweigh this story as far as newsworthiness. It has already been relegated to "also" status on CNN's web site. . .

I think the kids the anti chirst!  :icon_twisted:
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

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To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

#134
July 02, 2009, 09:48:02 AM
Air France 447 did not break up in flight, but "went straight down, almost vertically," investigators say.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/07/02/air.france.report/index.html

*Delay in link due to breaking news status. Link was posted as soon as story was published.
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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