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Missing Air France jet 'hit by electric fault'

Started by Palehorse, June 01, 2009, 09:19:56 AM

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Palehorse

An Air France plane missing over the Atlantic with 228 people aboard reported electrical problems in stormy weather before it lost contact, the airline said Monday, describing the loss as a "catastrophe."

The Airbus A330-200 sent automatic messages signaling equipment failure as it hit turbulence early in its 11-hour flight from Rio de Janeiro to Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris, Air France CEO Pierre-Henri Gourgeon told a news conference.

The last known contact with the plane was at 1:33 a.m. GMT (8:33 p.m. Sunday night ET), according to the Brazilian Air Force.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/06/01/air.france.brazil/index.html#cnnSTCOther1
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Palehorse

Now the media is reporting that this plane encountered a storm just before it went down. . . (Or did it go down? Aliens may have absconded with it!)  :wink:
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Henry Hawk

This IS really kind of weird.............to just disappear..from radar.....lightning or not..in this day of technology.....seems strange.
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Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2009, 12:29:08 PM
This IS really kind of weird.............to just disappear..from radar.....lightning or not..in this day of technology.....seems strange.

Drop low enough in altitude and that will happen. Its why fighter jets do the low & quick burn across water when approaching targets from sea.

I'm betting that thing had a catastrophic failure of its systems and fell like a lead balloon into the sea. (Last reported cruising at 35,000 feet) The only thing bothering me about that scenario is why they are not reporting debris fields at sea yet. . . If it hit the water in an uncontrolled state it should have come apart; resulting in a lot of debris floating about. . . But it's a big sea they're searching too I suppose.

If it fell due to a SAM hit, the same result. . . So far I am seeing nothing. . .
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me

Do they still have a type of dye that should have also been activated? 
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Palehorse

Quote from: me on June 01, 2009, 12:57:57 PM
Do they still have a type of dye that should have also been activated? 

Dunno. . . but probably not. That Hudson landing didn't have it from what I recall. They do have "EPIRBS" though. (Emergency position indicating radiobeacons). They are supposed to go off once they go into uncontrolled status if I recall correctly. . .
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me

Quote from: Palehorse on June 01, 2009, 01:07:30 PM
Dunno. . . but probably not. That Hudson landing didn't have it from what I recall. They do have "EPIRBS" though. (Emergency position indicating radiobeacons). They are supposed to go off once they go into uncontrolled status if I recall correctly. . .
After I mentioned that I realized the incident I was thinking of was back in the late 50's when a plane my cousin was on went down and they were using dye at the time.  I guess things have advanced quite a bit since then.  They never did find the plane he was on along with 200+ other passengers.
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Exterminator

Are you sure it wasn't your cousin's boss' daughter-in-law?
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me

Quote from: Exterminator on June 01, 2009, 01:16:50 PM
Are you sure it wasn't your cousin's boss' daughter-in-law?
No, it was my cousin and please do not make light of it. 
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on June 01, 2009, 01:19:42 PM
No, it was my cousin and please do not make light of it.

Whatever...I'm sure one of your relatives has been abducted by aliens at some point as well; huh?  :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on June 01, 2009, 01:20:33 PM
Whatever...I'm sure one of your relatives has been abducted by aliens at some point as well; huh?  :rolleyes:
Look ass wipe my aunt and uncle were devastated over that happening, he was their only son.  It was not a pleasant thing to go though and I don't appreciate you making fun of it in the least. 
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on June 01, 2009, 01:23:23 PM
Look ass wipe my aunt and uncle were devastated over that happening, he was their only son.  It was not a pleasant thing to go though and I don't appreciate you making fun of it in the least.

"Don't make fun of me, ass wipe," is not an effective strategy and no one cares about a supposed relative of yours who may or may not have disappeared in a plane crash 50 years ago.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Quote from: me on June 01, 2009, 01:23:23 PM
Look ass wipe my aunt and uncle were devastated over that happening, he was their only son.  It was not a pleasant thing to go though and I don't appreciate you making fun of it in the least.

I can certainly understand your response here. If you ever find it possible I'd actually like to hear more about the whole incident. Where, when, what airline, destination, etc. . . Send it to me via private media and perhaps I can do a little research later this year on it. (I may have some time on my hands to do so).

You know with today's technology the discovery of old wrecks (Air, land, sea)  are becoming commonplace. Look at what happened when they started searching for Fossett and all the old wrecks that they found!

Did that happen over sea???
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2009, 12:29:08 PM
This IS really kind of weird.............to just disappear..from radar.....lightning or not..in this day of technology.....seems strange.

There is no radar that far out in a transoceanic flight.  :wink:
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Palehorse

Quote from: Locutus on June 01, 2009, 01:56:53 PM
There is no radar that far out in a transoceanic flight.  :wink:

Yea, after I made my posting I saw where they had traveled out of range of the Brazilian radar. . . The fuggen media made it sound as if they had just disappeared. . . and some still are!  :rolleyes:
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville