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Started by Locutus, May 31, 2009, 01:15:27 PM

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Locutus

WICHITA, Kansas - Media reports say that abortion provider Dr. George Tiller has been shot and killed at his Wichita church.

Tiller has been among the few U.S. physicians performing late-term abortion. His clinic has repeatedly been the site of protests for about two decades.

He was acquitted in March of misdemeanor charges stemming from procedures he performed, but moments after the verdict the state's medical board announced it was investigating allegations against him that are nearly identical to those the jury had rejected.
Prosecutors had alleged that Tiller had in 2003 gotten second opinions from a doctor who was essentially an employee of his, not independent as state law requires, but a jury took only about an hour to find him not guilty of all 19 counts.

Tiller, who could have faced a year in jail for even one conviction, stared straight ahead as the verdicts were read, with one of his attorneys patting his shoulder after the decision on the final count was declared. His wife, seated across the courtroom, fought back tears and nodded. The couple declined to speak to reporters afterward.

Tiller, 67, has claimed that the prosecution was politically motivated. An attorney general who opposed abortion rights began the investigation into Tiller's clinic more than four years ago, but both his successor, who filed the criminal charges, and the current attorney general support abortion rights.

Tiller has been a favored target of anti-abortion protesters, and he testified that he and his family have suffered years of harassment and threats. His clinic was the site of the 1991 "Summer of Mercy" protests marked by mass demonstrations and arrests. His clinic was bombed in 1985, and an abortion opponent shot him in both arms in 1993.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31029377/
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

:rolleyes:

If you don't like the outcome of the court case, just take the law into your own hands in the name of your god.   :mad:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

LOsborne

Quote from: Locutus on May 31, 2009, 01:16:13 PM
:rolleyes:

If you don't like the outcome of the court case, just take the law into your own hands in the name of your god.   :mad:
Isn't that what Jeebus would do?

me

I'm sorry but that man was a monster.  I don't see how he could have birthed live baby's and killed them which in essence is what he did.  I'm not saying someone should have shot him but I am saying he was totally wrong in what he did.
Trump 2020

LOsborne

Quote from: me on May 31, 2009, 03:06:30 PMI'm not saying someone should have shot him but I am saying he was totally wrong in what he did.
The law disagrees.

me

Quote from: LOsborne on May 31, 2009, 03:35:44 PM
The law disagrees.
Do you think he was right to kill babies in the manner he did?   
Trump 2020

Sandy Eggo

Do you know the circumstances behind why those abortions may have been necessary.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Locutus

Quote from: me on May 31, 2009, 03:06:30 PM
I'm sorry but that man was a monster.  I don't see how he could have birthed live baby's and killed them which in essence is what he did.  I'm not saying someone should have shot him but I am saying he was totally wrong in what he did.

Really?  You think he was a monster?

From the article:


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Tiller began providing abortion services in 1973. He acknowledged abortion was as socially divisive as slavery or prohibition but said the issue was about giving women a choice when dealing with technology that can diagnose severe fetal abnormalities before a baby is born.

"Pre-natal testing without pre-natal choices is medical fraud," Tiller once said.


One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Quote from: LOsborne on May 31, 2009, 03:04:09 PM
Isn't that what Jeebus would do?

Yep.  And he would do it in a house of worship just as was done this morning.  </sarcasm>

:rolleyes:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

mcgonser

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 31, 2009, 04:41:50 PM
Do you know the circumstances behind why those abortions may have been necessary.

3rd trimester, or fully formed baby abortions are not warranted. They can go ahead and have the babies at that point and give them up for adoption. What in the world were they waiting for?????????
I still don't think that killing anyone solves the problem. Not all christians believe in taking the law into their hands.
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Locutus

Quote from: mcgonser on May 31, 2009, 04:55:38 PM
3rd trimester, or fully formed baby abortions are not warranted.

Really?  Why?

Again from the article:

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Tiller began providing abortion services in 1973. He acknowledged abortion was as socially divisive as slavery or prohibition but said the issue was about giving women a choice when dealing with technology that can diagnose severe fetal abnormalities before a baby is born.

"Pre-natal testing without pre-natal choices is medical fraud," Tiller once said.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

mcgonser

1. why was these tests not done sooner?
2. if these "tests" make a woman not want her baby there is someone out there who does.
3. It is "murder" not abortion at that stage to me and alot others. (3rd trimester)
4. do you realize that the baby is at least 6 months along at this stage?
The only time there should be abortion at this stage is to save the mothers life. thats my opinion and I am not going out with a gun to uphold it.
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Sandy Eggo

mcgonser: What about the life of the mother or severe deformity of the unborn child?
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Sandy Eggo

Not all conditions are apparent during the 1st trimester, thus the reason women see a doctor regularly throughout the pregnancy AND the reason prenatal care is of the upmost importance.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

LOsborne

Quote from: me on May 31, 2009, 03:58:03 PM
Do you think he was right to kill babies in the manner he did?   
Doesn't matter what I think. This act wasn't about what I think, or what you think. According to the law of the land, the doctor did no wrong. You can work to change the law, if you are so minded, and once you have accomplished this goal (if ever) you can then refer to lawful abortions as homicides. But not now. The only murderer in the story is the gunman in Wichita.