Onward Christian Soldiers! - Kansas abortion doctor killed.

[Henry Hawk]

Suck it, you uneducated, redneck teabagger.

NOW THAT, is MY EXTERMINATOR!!!

Nobody can slam me, like you do!!!.....you have a  REAL  gift....

[Palehorse]

I'm not the extremist here, Palehorse. That would be you. . .

And yet you spew their propaganda. . . Walks like a duck, talks like a duck. . .

[Exterminator]

NOW THAT, is MY EXTERMINATOR!!!

Nobody can slam me, like you do!!!.....you have a  REAL  gift....

I calls 'em as I sees 'em.   

[Palehorse]

it doesn't, and I don't go slamming your personal beliefs either....

My personal beliefs don't go around spewing propaganda and trying to force themselves upon others by threatening damnation and an eternal BBQ. . .

Don't take it so personal Henry, it isn't you I have the problem with but rather the path oragnaized religion follows, how it got there, and the methods it employs. (As you already know).

[me]

There is one thing that hasn't been brought up unless I missed it.  A person who kills a pregnant woman is also considered guilty of two counts of murder the second being the murder of an unborn infant.  So why is a fetus considered an unborn infant in that case but not in the case of abortion?  Anyone got an answer to that one that makes sense?

in order for it to make sense to you, you'd need to distinguish the difference between what a woman chooses to do with her own body and what is forced on her by someone else.
Your question clearly indicates you aren't drawing that distinction.

I'm referring to the fact that on the pro abortion side of the argument is that the fetus isn't considered a living being.  If that is the case there are a whole lot of people who were convicted of two murders who shouldn't have been.

[Freethinker]

They try to rationalize abortion w/ finding murderers guilty of two crimes by saying that particular mother "wanted" her baby, and the murderer took her "choice" away.

But most aspects of the abortion issue are rationalization at its finest.

I especially love it when people try to categorize the abortion issue into religious versus secular, as Palehorse tries to do with me. And yet, Palehorse's entire argument rests on his own religiosity regarding the magical entrance of a spirit with the first breath.... Careful we do not inhale an extra spirit or two ourselves. Cover your mouth when inhaling deeply. 

[me]

They try to rationalize abortion w/ finding murderers guilty of two crimes by saying that particular mother "wanted" her baby, and the murderer took her "choice" away.

But most aspects of the abortion issue are rationalization at its finest.

I especially love it when people try to categorize the abortion issue into religious versus secular, as Palehorse tries to do with me. And yet, Palehorse's entire argument rests on his own religiosity regarding the magical entrance of a spirit with the first breath.... Careful we do not inhale an extra spirit or two ourselves. Cover your mouth with inhaling deeply. 

Then it depends on what the defination of "it" is in other words?   

[Palehorse]

They try to rationalize abortion w/ finding murderers guilty of two crimes by saying that particular mother "wanted" her baby, and the murderer took her "choice" away.

But most aspects of the abortion issue are rationalization at its finest.

I especially love it when people try to categorize the abortion issue into religious versus secular, as Palehorse tries to do with me. And yet, Palehorse's entire argument rests on his own religiosity regarding the magical entrance of a spirit with the first breath.... Careful we do not inhale an extra spirit or two ourselves. Cover your mouth when inhaling deeply. 

Yeah, keep yapping. It is clearly obvious to anyone with a brain that you've had several doubles of the kool aid yourself. . . Freewanker. . .

So, why don't you take this opportunity to share with us some of your fondest memories from the womb? Come on don't be shy. You say life begins in the womb, so why don't any of you remember it? Humm????? 

Buy a clue. . .

[me]

Yeah, keep yapping. It is clearly obvious to anyone with a brain that you've had several doubles of the kool aid yourself. . . Freewhanker. . .

So, why don't you take this opportunity to share with us some of your fondest memories from the womb? Come on don't be shy. You say life begins in the womb, so why don't any of you remember it? Humm????? 

Buy a clue. . .

I remember it as being wet, dark, and really really noisy.  I'm thinking also that might be the reason for my claustrophobia because there wasn't a whole lot of room either.

[Palehorse]

I remember it as being wet, dark, and really really noisy.  I'm thinking also that might be the reason for my claustrophobia because there wasn't a whole lot of room either.

Prove it smartypants. . .

[me]

Prove it smartypants. . .

I'm afraid you'll have to take my word for it unless you can do a mind meld.   

[LOsborne]

A person who kills a pregnant woman is also considered guilty of two counts of murder the second being the murder of an unborn infant.

This is not true in every state. In fact, Oregon and Florida just had bills introduced in their state houses attempting to address this question.

http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2009/06/senator_requests_bill_making_i.html

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2008/03/bill-would-defi.html

Laws in other states (i.e. Texas, Pennsylvania) specifically exempt abortion.

[Palehorse]

I'm afraid you'll have to take my word for it unless you can do a mind meld.   

A) I take no one at their word.

B) I am not mind melding with you. I am afraid of what I may experience! 

[me]

A) I take no one at their word.

B) I am not mind melding with you. I am afraid of what I may experience! 

[mageepet]

Rightly or not so rightly, Tiller's work will be carried on by a Nebraska physician

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090610/ap_on_re_us/us_abortion_shooting