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Soda Tax Weighed to Pay for Health Care

Started by me, May 12, 2009, 10:47:57 PM

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me

You know not everyone who drinks sodas has rotten teeth and not everyone who eats at fast food restaurants is obese.  Not everyone who eats healthy is the proper weight or are they particularly healthy either.  I can't wait until some of the taxes that are being implemented start affecting you which they obviously haven't yet. 
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kimmi

Quote from: me on May 13, 2009, 11:24:36 PM
You know not everyone who drinks sodas has rotten teeth and not everyone who eats at fast food restaurants is obese.  Not everyone who eats healthy is the proper weight or are they particularly healthy either.  I can't wait until some of the taxes that are being implemented start affecting you which they obviously haven't yet.

The people who are not obese or have rotten teeth have not made these food choices a main staple of their diet either. 
Take time to smell the roses.

LOsborne


LOsborne

Quote from: me on May 13, 2009, 11:24:36 PM
  I can't wait until some of the taxes that are being implemented start affecting you which they obviously haven't yet.
That is the second time in this conversation that you have ended a post by wishing me ill fortune.  This was the other: "Maybe you'll get lucky enough to have an income like that when you reach retirement age."  Is that your habitual method of persuasion? To call down "divine retribution" on someone who doesn't agree with you? Have a lot of success with that do you?

Here's a tip: if your rebuttal is going to consist of stomping around on the playground and hollering "You stink!" don't waste your time. In 20+ years of conflict resolution on the job, I have never seen that approach work.


me

But on the other hand you seem to have no compassion for those who happen to be less fortunate than you.  I don't like paying taxes for those who chose to live on welfare and could be doing something better with their lives or overindulge but I also realize there are those who are just less fortunate and it will hurt them.  I would not reply that way if your attitude didn't come across as holier than thou.  What I'm saying is put yourself in the place of the older retiree who has worked hard all their lives but didn't pay much into Social Security to get a big check or wasn't able to save because of one reason or another and is barely making it, not because they were too lazy to work but because of circumstances beyond their control.  The widow who never worked because she didn't have to who can only draw a portion of her husbands Social Security because she never paid in.  Those disabled due to accidents or a genetic disease not caused by an unhealthy lifestyle.  Are you going to tell them drink water 'cause you don't need those luxuries anyway.  They've already been hit with higher utility bills which has shrunk their meager check why hurt them even more by taking away some of the things they might still be able to enjoy. 
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LOsborne

Quote from: me on May 14, 2009, 08:31:23 AM
I would not reply that way if your attitude didn't come across as holier than thou. 
I am not responsible for inflections your imagination puts into my typed words. If you feel threatened by something I say, show me the words which led you this assumption, and I will attempt to explain.

You don't know me, or anything about me. Do not assign attitudes to my expressions that support your prejudices. Go back and read the posts paying attention to the words, instead of what you assume to be the expression on my face. Usually that expression is a slight smile. What is your expression when you type?

Henry Hawk

Quote from: kimmi on May 14, 2009, 06:54:08 AM
The people who are not obese or have rotten teeth have not made these food choices a main staple of their diet either. 

what happened to "pro-choice".... :confused:

maybe we should TAX abortions....and that money can go to our "healthcare plan"...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

Quote from: LOsborne on May 13, 2009, 09:29:08 PM
As things stand now, T-bone steak costs more than hamburger. We don't go all bleeding heart because the lower income people can't eat steak at every meal. What's the difference? These "lower income" folks you are so concerned about  pay little if any income tax. Yet they enjoy the benefits of police and fire protection, public education, and a vigilant military that those of us in more comfortable circumstances pay for. I have no problem asking them to carry a little of the freight -- especially if they can opt out by deciding to drink ice water instead of Pepsi.
This statement for one.
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Gryphon

Quote from: me on May 13, 2009, 10:06:45 PM
I know what WIC is.  You just have no clue about this Social Security thing do you?  If you want to be fully covered you have to buy supplemental insurance which can cost up to $300 or more per month and sometimes the monthly SS check is less than $1000.  So it's approx. $100 pr month for pt B, which is prescriptions, and another approx $300 for supplemental which is $400 of the SS check off the top and what does that leave the retiree to live on???  Sometimes less than $500 pr month.  Great you say????  Hum, maybe they're lucky enough to be able to still get around and own a car and own a house and maybe aren't one of the lucky ones who have it paid off.  There's still utilities which are getting ridiculous and upkeep.  Wow, what a great retirement.  You would really have the guts to tell them forget the soda you like and drink water?  Maybe you'll get lucky enough to have an income like that when you reach retirement age.

I certainly feel bad for the people you describe above...and we all know a handful of them. But, frankly, they are in a situation of their own making. Social security was never intended to be the sole income for a comfy and cushy retirement.

me

Quote from: Gryphon on May 14, 2009, 08:57:08 AM
I certainly feel bad for the people you describe above...and we all know a handful of them. But, frankly, they are in a situation of their own making. Social security was never intended to be the sole income for a comfy and cushy retirement.
I realize that but there are those who either were not able to save or lost everything they had saved due to circumstances beyond their control.
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Henry Hawk

I think this is the most retarded way of generating federal revenue....letting a bunch of pompass asses decided what is best for Americans and then taxing them for their pet projects...

where does it stop....
taxing video's?...because they encourage sitting on your butt and ususally partake in a snack that they may not need?
taxing pizza's? or maybe just a pepperoni tax?
pancakes tax?
M&M Tax?
NFL Tax?....no more couch patato's on Sunday afternoon?

maybe a calorie tax..... :yes:

Then that will lead to a Tax Credit for those who join a health spa....or maybe a cauliflower tax exempt system for eating this three times a day.....of course if you add cheese it reduces the tax rate.....

How about Obama hiring acorn to go door to door and do a refridgerator check and based upon the amount of trans fats, sugars and preservatives will determine your tax rate for that fical year...

I feel so much better...I have Hope!  :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on May 14, 2009, 09:51:50 AM
How about a tax on breeding?   :yes:

Oh, how about a NASCAR Tax?  or a mobile home tax?  or a tooth tax?..you get a tax break for every tooth that is STILL intact in your jaws?....or a tax for every non-running vehicle you have parked in your front yard?...

Call it the WT TAX?   :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

mcgonser

What about a tax on Alcohol(all of it) This is a drain on our resources with sickness, absentism, DWI's and mental and physical abuse to others. I find it interesting that they ignore liquor as a source of tax. I don't know what their problem is, only the well off can afford to drink and it won't bother them financially!
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Exterminator

Quote from: mcgonser on May 14, 2009, 10:17:52 AM
What about a tax on Alcohol(all of it) This is a drain on our resources with sickness, absentism, DWI's and mental and physical abuse to others. I find it interesting that they ignore liquor as a source of tax. I don't know what their problem is, only the well off can afford to drink and it won't bother them financially!

What are you, stupid?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.