This is exactly what we can expect from nationalized health care

[DannyBoy]

Can't say I've listened to Rush very much in a long time.  I'm not much for fear mongering and spreading hate....unlike you EX.

LMFAO!  Yeah, I'm a fear-monger alright.   

You really don't read well; do you?

I read well enough to know that you are a bigoted a$$hole that expresses contempt toward anyone that has a different opinion than you.

Do you know what a bigot is you illiterate twit?  And you have opinions all right; they just aren't yours.  Now go brush your mullet.

1. (adj) bigoted
blindly and obstinately attached to some creed or opinion and intolerant toward others....


You are probably one of those guys whose actually 5' 3", 250 lbs, and balding who sits around all day surfing for porn....then gets on message boards and pretends to be a bigshot to make himself feel important.

[pariann]

LOL....uhm....I don't think so. Unless his height and weight has drastically changed in the last 3 years.  (Dang that's a long time, but not long enough to shrink to 5'3")



Ex, everytime that someone tries to describe you, I have a near uncontrollable urge to post one of those pictures from the bowling meetup.

[dan foster]

Yes. That is why the pharmaceutical companies lobby for a ban on the imports.

And therein lies the rub; US pharmaceuticals run the show.  They advertise constantly to SELL MORE PILLS.  Their whole reason for existence is PROFIT.  They have no incentive to cure anything.  That won't SELL MORE PILLS.  In fact, they have every incentive to make and keep people sick in order to SELL MORE PILLS.  That is why they continually invent illnesses (like the good/bad cholesterol hoax) and constantly scare people into "ASK YOUR DOCTOR ABOUT...._______(insert drug/malady here)" AND LOBBY EACH AND EVERY DOCTOR in the country to PUSH THE LATEST DRUG.  Drug reps hit Dr's offices EVERYDAY OF THE YEAR to push the latest malady/drug to the point that Dr's only know the latest from the drug companies and don't know anything about real health care.

The only group more motivated to MAKE A PROFIT are the financial institutions that own health care; Insurance companies and their hacks, HMO's, et al.  With the Financials owning health care and the Pharmaceuticals owning the practice of medicine, please tell me how our system is better than any of those socialist bastard's form of health care where CARE is the motive and PROFIT is not.

[WVaGAL]

ooh that was so good dan foster!!!

And therein lies the rub; US pharmaceuticals run the show.  They advertise constantly to SELL MORE PILLS.  Their whole reason for existence is PROFIT.  They have no incentive to cure anything.  That won't SELL MORE PILLS.  In fact, they have every incentive to make and keep people sick in order to SELL MORE PILLS.  That is why they continually invent illnesses (like the good/bad cholesterol hoax) and constantly scare people into "ASK YOUR DOCTOR ABOUT...._______(insert drug/malady here)" AND LOBBY EACH AND EVERY DOCTOR in the country to PUSH THE LATEST DRUG.  Drug reps hit Dr's offices EVERYDAY OF THE YEAR to push the latest malady/drug to the point that Dr's only know the latest from the drug companies and don't know anything about real health care.

The only group more motivated to MAKE A PROFIT are the financial institutions that own health care; Insurance companies and their hacks, HMO's, et al.  With the Financials owning health care and the Pharmaceuticals owning the practice of medicine, please tell me how our system is better than any of those socialist bastard's form of health care where CARE is the motive and PROFIT is not.

[Henry Hawk]

And therein lies the rub; US pharmaceuticals run the show.  They advertise constantly to SELL MORE PILLS.  Their whole reason for existence is PROFIT.  They have no incentive to cure anything.  That won't SELL MORE PILLS.  In fact, they have every incentive to make and keep people sick in order to SELL MORE PILLS.  That is why they continually invent illnesses (like the good/bad cholesterol hoax) and constantly scare people into "ASK YOUR DOCTOR ABOUT...._______(insert drug/malady here)" AND LOBBY EACH AND EVERY DOCTOR in the country to PUSH THE LATEST DRUG.  Drug reps hit Dr's offices EVERYDAY OF THE YEAR to push the latest malady/drug to the point that Dr's only know the latest from the drug companies and don't know anything about real health care.

The only group more motivated to MAKE A PROFIT are the financial institutions that own health care; Insurance companies and their hacks, HMO's, et al.  With the Financials owning health care and the Pharmaceuticals owning the practice of medicine, please tell me how our system is better than any of those socialist bastard's form of health care where CARE is the motive and PROFIT is not.

Okay, Dan, believe it or not I somewhat agree with you on this....and hold on....as much as I detest government involvement on such issues.....I think this IS a case where serious action HAS to take place....I think somehow, ALL lobbyist have GOT to be stopped....ALL GOV money needs to be stopped to all pharmaceutical companies....

I STILL believe that Free Enterprise is the best option to restore our Healthcare system...but we have GOT to rid the fraudulent and criminal activities..in the pharmaceutical industry, the insurance industry...and our Government, which IS a HUGE part of that part of equation....we need some congressmen with integrity (if that is even possible)...

I am very much against government regulations....but somehow, the BUCK has GOT to stop with the corruption in this industry....

[Exterminator]

LOL....uhm....I don't think so. Unless his height and weight has drastically changed in the last 3 years.  (Dang that's a long time, but not long enough to shrink to 5'3")

Ex, everytime that someone tries to describe you, I have a near uncontrollable urge to post one of those pictures from the bowling meetup.

Gee, they'd hate seeing that; huh?

[pariann]

Probably not really.  But out of respect for another posters possible desires...I keep my urges to myself.

[Exterminator]

Desires?   

[pariann]

Desires, wishes, wants, yada yada yada

[Exterminator]

Needs?  You know I'm all about the needy!   

[dan foster]

Okay, Dan, believe it or not I somewhat agree with you on this....and hold on....as much as I detest government involvement on such issues.....I think this IS a case where serious action HAS to take place....I think somehow, ALL lobbyist have GOT to be stopped....ALL GOV money needs to be stopped to all pharmaceutical companies....

I STILL believe that Free Enterprise is the best option to restore our Healthcare system...but we have GOT to rid the fraudulent and criminal activities..in the pharmaceutical industry, the insurance industry...and our Government, which IS a HUGE part of that part of equation....we need some congressmen with integrity (if that is even possible)...

I am very much against government regulations....but somehow, the BUCK has GOT to stop with the corruption in this industry....

Free enterprise might well be the answer, but it has to be a not-for-profit endeavor and take all profit motives out of the business, period. 

[mcgonser]

Dan, our whole economic structure is built upon the free enterprise, or capitallist, system. You can look at other countries and see that without this there is no motivation to succeed. That is what America is about and what has gotten us here. The trouble now is that Goverment wants to run everything, what part of socialism do you hear, and it will ruin us. We have had a good system in the past and need to relook and re-evaluate it. The first thing we need to do is get the greed out of it. Lobbyist and congress ho's who have corrupted it. That is my opinion.

[Exterminator]

Greed is the impetus that fuels a capitalist system and isn't the problem.  Willingness to lie, cheat and steal is.  As a society, we have at some point decided that since money is good then anything done to accumulate it is good as well and that is where the problem lies.

[Henry Hawk]

Greed is the impetus that fuels a capitalist system and isn't the problem.  Willingness to lie, cheat and steal is.  As a society, we have at some point decided that since money is good then anything done to accumulate it is good as well and that is where the problem lies.

Willingness to lie, cheat and steal are the results of greed...I don't think our society as a whole believes that lying, cheating and stealing are acceptable to get ahead in this world.....I think all people want is the ability to achieve wealth and dreams, without government making it MORE difficult.......i.e.....Tax Parties.

[Exterminator]

Willingness to lie, cheat and steal are the results of greed...I don't think our society as a whole believes that lying, cheating and stealing are acceptable to get ahead in this world...

And yet it keeps happening over and over again...Enron, WorldCom, the banking industry, et.al.; these people absolutely knew that they were screwing people to make themselves wealthy.  The trend seems to be that the end justifies the means.

..I think all people want is the ability to achieve wealth and dreams, without government making it MORE difficult.......i.e.....Tax Parties.

Tea parties do nothing to help anyone achieve wealth or the realization of his/her dreams; they are nothing but bitch sessions and are a colossal waste of time and energy.