This is exactly what we can expect from nationalized health care

[Exterminator]

I think you are assuming Rush said such a thing....you probably NEVER even listened to Rush...you simply do as you blame others on...and don't research but ... CNN said so, or MSNBC reported...you can be JUST as guilty Ex.

you are sterotyping...and assuming.

Oh, bullshit...Rush limbaugh absolutely said in 1995 that drug users ""ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up."   Pull your head out of his ass and look it up.

[Exterminator]

I see, no democrats have gone to rehab for drugs or alcohol??

Name the dem who went to rehab after having publicly supported life sentences for addicts.

No demo's have ever been outed for being Gay?

Name the dem who was outed for being gay after having built his political career on a so-called 'family values' platform and having consistently voted against issues on gay rights.

Are you honestly so dumb you don't know the meaning of hypocrisy?

Do You know the meaning of hypocrisy??Give me a break. LOL

Really?

[Bo D]

I think you are assuming Rush said such a thing....you probably NEVER even listened to Rush...you simply do as you blame others on...and don't research but ... CNN said so, or MSNBC reported...you can be JUST as guilty Ex.

you are sterotyping...and assuming.

Is Fox News good enough for you?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,99731,00.html

"Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. ... And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up," Limbaugh said on his short-lived television show on Oct. 5, 1995.

[mcgonser]

To get back to the subject: From what people from other countries have said, it does not look like it would be a good thing. I have never heard anything good about NHC from those that have it.

[Bo D]

I see, no democrats have gone to rehab for drugs or alcohol??


No demo's have ever been outed for being Gay?

Definitely none have been exposed, in more ways than one, as skirt chasers?????

Do you even understand the meaning of the word 'hypocrisy'?

Do You?

I couldn't find the definition on the front page of Fox News ... I got too busy reading ...

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[Exterminator]

To get back to the subject: From what people from other countries have said, it does not look like it would be a good thing. I have never heard anything good about NHC from those that have it.

Really?  What people from what countries?

[pariann]

I would have to ask that too. Seems that Canada has some form of it, and I've talked to several Canadians that are happy with it, and can't believe that we have to go through what we do here for health care.

[Ma and Pa]

What was that stuff people were fed in "Brave New World"? I think it was called Soma. Well, we're being fed Soma today by the bucketful; I'm referring to reality TV, sportsbiz, Hollywood infotainment, talk radio hosts with an agenda who pass themselves off as journalists, and the nauseating list goes on and on. We are just TOO well connected, today, my friends, and if you don't want your brain to be rotted away gradually, my advice is to wean yourselves away from a steady diet of crap; be very selective of WHAT and HOW MUCH media you choose to be exposed to. Better to suffer from a little ignorance than to have your gray matter overstuffed with meaningless trivialities.   

[Henry Hawk]

"If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free."
P.J. O'Rourke

[LOsborne]

To get back to the subject: From what people from other countries have said, it does not look like it would be a good thing. I have never heard anything good about NHC from those that have it.

Source, please.

I have only an anecdotal source at hand, but it seems to be more than has been offered so far. Ah hem, a close friend who is a a resident of British Columbia is also a physical therapist. She tells me quality of care is excellent, the follow-up is better than she has seen offered to her friends in the U.S., and the wait for procedures is never lengthy -- except for elective surgery. In that case the patient can pay for private care and be treated immediately if he prefers. She is speaking as a provider as well as a consumer.

I showed you mine, let's see yours.

[mcgonser]

Mine was a friend going to school here from Canada (pharmacy) who said that yes their critical care was good but that all the other was long waits. Also that they might say that an obese person or smoker did not get the surgery because of their habits. He thought this was unfair. Then we had a friend from England who talked about the long waits to see a dr and the waiting lists for elective surgery. They were impressed with our health care system at the time.

[LOsborne]

Thank you, Mcgonser. I think our friends are saying the same thing. Care you MUST have is immediately available, and high quality. Other things require a wait, unless you are willing to pay the price for private care.

From a personal standpoint, this sounds good to me, because I never see a doctor unless I am bleeding from an artery. 

As for denying some procedures to the obese or the nicotine addicted ... that's just the way it is when return on investment is thrown into the mix. I am assuming these people could get the procedures if they paid the private cost.

If I haven't mentioned it before, I am grateful for your direct and on-point replies. Sometimes I like the free-for-all, but I find you have views worth thinking about. Thank you for sharing them.

[mcgonser]

Thank You! I have wondered, do they get their drugs (prescriptions) as cheap in Canada as we can getting them from Canada?

[LOsborne]

Yes. That is why the pharmaceutical companies lobby for a ban on the imports.

[mcgonser]

Well, I am thankful for Wal Marts $4 list of medicines. Its not the newest and best but they work ok for me.