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mcgonser

#75
May 08, 2009, 04:52:36 PM
Pelosi: I Was Told Interrogation Methods Were Lawful
The House speaker's statement came after CIA records showed Pelosi was briefed in September 2002 on the interrogation methods and appeared to contradict her claim last month that she was never told that waterboarding or other enhanced interrogation techniques were being used.

FOXNews.com

Friday, May 08, 2009

powered by BaynoteHouse Speaker Nancy Pelosi insisted Friday that she was briefed only once about the "enhanced" interrogation techniques being used on terrorism suspects and that she was assured by lawyers with the CIA and the Department of Justice that the methods were legal.

Pelosi issued a statement after CIA records released this week showed that Pelosi was briefed in September 2002 on the interrogation methods. The briefings memo appeared to contradict the speaker's claims that she was never told that waterboarding or other enhanced interrogation methods were being used.

"We were not -- I repeat -- were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used," Pelosi said on April 23.

The emphasis seems to be on "were used," even though she conceded in a statement released Friday that she was told they would be used.

"As I said in my statement of December 9, 2007: 'I was briefed on interrogation techniques the (Bush) administration was considering using in the future. The administration advised that legal counsel for both the CIA and the Department of Justice had concluded that the techniques were legal,'" she said.

But even that statement is at odds with the official record of the briefings recorded in the CIA memo dated to Sept. 4, 2002. That memo says Pelosi received a "briefing on EITs (enhanced interrogation techniques), including use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah, background on authorities and a description of particular EITs that had been employed."

Pelosi noted that the media had reported this week that CIA Director Leon Panetta wrote in a cover letter accompanying the briefings memo that "the descriptions provided by the CIA may not be accurate."

Pelosi is fighting back against accusations that she and other Democrats are being motivated by politics in their attempt to establish an independent commission to investigate officials and lawyers involved with the Bush-era interrogation programs.

Pelosi is just one of 65 lawmakers who received 40 briefings dealing with the subject. Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., for instance, was repeatedly briefed, as was Rep. Jane Harman, D-Valif., who took over Pelosi's spot on the House Intelligence Committee.

In addition, from the beginning of the program in 2002 until it became public in the fall of 2006, the House held 13 votes to authorize intelligence funding at which time no one objected or demanded changes to any intelligence programs.

The briefings took place in the months after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. At the time, the CIA was getting actionable intelligence that helped disrupt several terrorist plots.

Lawmakers apparently didn't want to stop that. But when it became public, Pelosi and others shifted gears and started criticizing a program they had known about for years, claimed GOP strategist Brad Blakeman.

"Either the speaker has a veracity problem or an incompetence problem and it could be both," Blakeman told FOX News. "The fact of the matter is she was briefed and she was hoping that the top secret nature of these briefings would shield her from this information coming out."

Blakeman added that he trusts the notes made at the briefings more than Pelosi's memory.

Justice Department officials are not likely to recommend criminal charges against the three Bush administration lawyers who the wrote the memos approving the interrogation methods, but two could face disciplinary action from their state bar associations. 

Liar, liar--pants on fire

Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

DannyBoy

#76
May 08, 2009, 11:07:05 PM
All this tea bagging.....as much as I hate to agree....we lost, get over it.

Isn't one of the biggest reason's why our forfathers decided we should have elections every so many years....so that if someone/some-group got into office that was really whacked.....the people would have the right to VOTE them out before too much damage could be done. 

Elections are how to get things changed. 

Trying to tear other people and ideas down is not how to get elected anymore.  It just pisses the people off that believed in them to begin with.  You've got to offer a better 'product'.  Right now their ain't one. 

Republicans basing their hopes on things getting worse so they can blame the dems is an incredibly bad strategy.  Not to mention unpatriotic.

Gardengirl

#77
May 09, 2009, 08:36:56 PM
The thing is Dannyboy, they don't have to hope. Things are already decidely sliding waaaay downhill. It scares me how much damage Obama can do in 4 years. From this horrible budget to setting loose terrorists on our soil, he is a catastrophe.
When people fear the government, that is called tyranny
When the government fears its people, that is called liberty

Henry Hawk

#78
May 11, 2009, 08:15:27 AM
Quote from: DannyBoy on May 08, 2009, 11:07:05 PM
Republicans basing their hopes on things getting worse so they can blame the dems is an incredibly bad strategy.  Not to mention unpatriotic.

There is NOTHING unpatriotic about NOT wanting Government to get bigger and bigger at the taxpayers expense....there is NOTHING unpartriotic about NOT wanting this country to become MORE socialist....NOTHING
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#79
May 11, 2009, 12:34:38 PM
Nancy Pelosi is a lying weasel....shame on anybody who supports her.....she made promises to make this a better government and she LIED....she is a shamefull piece of crap...and she should be impeached...SHE KNEW all about waterboarding being used...she was briefed about it!! ...and anybody who has the gall to defend her are just as weasely.....also, there is talk about Attorney General Holder admitting he was aware of Clinton-era renditions of torture....the democrats and the media are pathetic.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#80
May 11, 2009, 12:37:58 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 11, 2009, 12:34:38 PM
Nancy Pelosi is a lying weasel....shame on anybody who supports her.....she made promises to make this a better government and she LIED....she is a shamefull piece of crap...and she should be impeached...SHE KNEW all about waterboarding being used...she was briefed about it!! ...and anybody who has the gall to defend her are just as weasely.....also, there is talk about Attorney General Holder admitting he was aware of Clinton-era renditions of torture....the democrats and the media are pathetic.

Actually, you're pretty pathetic.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#81
May 11, 2009, 12:41:50 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on May 11, 2009, 12:37:58 PM
Actually, you're pretty pathetic.

what amazes me Ex...you are obviously and intelligent man....but you are so blindly fooled by what is going on it is ridicules...you remind me of a good friend of mine, who is liberal....I admire him as a friend, but he is so WRONG about almost everything he believes.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

mcgonser

#82
May 11, 2009, 12:47:05 PM
Just think, she is 2nd in line for the presidencey! If I was President Obama andVP Biden, I would be watching my back. There is no shame in her ambition.
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Exterminator

#83
May 11, 2009, 12:49:00 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 11, 2009, 12:41:50 PM
what amazes me Ex...you are obviously and intelligent man....but you are so blindly fooled by what is going on it is ridicules...you remind me of a good friend of mine, who is liberal....I admire him as a friend, but he is so WRONG about almost everything he believes.

Yeah, because you with no education have such supreior insight; right?  You people are freakin' delusional.   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

#84
May 11, 2009, 12:49:24 PM
Quote from: mcgonser on May 11, 2009, 12:47:05 PM
Just think, she is 2nd in line for the presidencey! If I was President Obama andVP Biden, I would be watching my back. There is no shame in her ambition.

Jealous?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

mcgonser

#85
May 11, 2009, 12:52:27 PM
Nope! Just wary
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Exterminator

#86
May 11, 2009, 01:05:28 PM
Quote from: mcgonser on May 11, 2009, 12:52:27 PM
Nope! Just wary

Well, you should be; she accomplished a lot more with her life than you did with yours.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

#87
May 11, 2009, 03:05:48 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on May 11, 2009, 01:05:28 PM
Well, you should be; she accomplished a lot more with her life than you did with yours.
Since when is being a weasel and a liar an accomplishment to brag about?
Trump 2020

Exterminator

#88
May 11, 2009, 03:23:21 PM
Quote from: me on May 11, 2009, 03:05:48 PM
Since when is being a weasel and a liar an accomplishment to brag about?

It isn't so don't.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

#89
May 11, 2009, 03:27:27 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on May 11, 2009, 03:23:21 PM
It isn't so don't.
Then Pelosi has nothing to brag about for sure.
Trump 2020
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