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The Dangers of Majoritarian Tyranny

Started by Gardengirl, April 15, 2009, 11:57:19 AM

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Gardengirl

When people fear the government, that is called tyranny
When the government fears its people, that is called liberty

Exterminator

Huh, GG posts an article with which generally agree...go figure.  I wonder if she recognizes how at odds this article is with most of her social positions?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

awol

"To us, bipartisanship is them being forced to agree with us" - Rush Limbaugh
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin

mcgonser

This is why we need to get rid of the electoral college and go by the majority of the peoples vote. Let the people elect their own leaders, not a few chosen states.
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Exterminator

Quote from: mcgonser on April 20, 2009, 10:46:34 AM
This is why we need to get rid of the electoral college and go by the majority of the peoples vote. Let the people elect their own leaders, not a few chosen states.

So you're in favor of majoritarian tyranny?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

Quote from: mcgonser on April 20, 2009, 10:46:34 AM
This is why we need to get rid of the electoral college and go by the majority of the peoples vote. Let the people elect their own leaders, not a few chosen states.

Did you also believe that after the 2000 presidential election?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

mcgonser

I have believed it for over 10 years now. I do not think it is a democratic nation when 9 states can determin the outcome of our elections. By using the popular vote at least all will be heard from. Just think, instead of concentrating on just 9 states, the politicians would have to spread themselves out more.,
I also believe that instead of negative ads we should have free debates for all the canidates on local television(nbc, cbs etc) since the public subsidizes them. That would deminish the need for so much campaign money and give every canidate a chance, instead of who has the most money to spend. 
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Exterminator

Quote from: mcgonser on April 20, 2009, 12:02:59 PM
I have believed it for over 10 years now. I do not think it is a democratic nation when 9 states can determin the outcome of our elections. By using the popular vote at least all will be heard from. Just think, instead of concentrating on just 9 states, the politicians would have to spread themselves out more.

It sounds more and more like you can't find much to like about our system of government; you should seriously consider moving.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

mcgonser

Is that you answer to everything Ex: If you don't agree with the other side, leave. I don't think so!
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Exterminator

It isn't a question of agreeing with another side; it's a question of believing in the very fabric of our society which you clearly do not.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

Quote from: mcgonser on April 20, 2009, 12:02:59 PM
I have believed it for over 10 years now. I do not think it is a democratic nation when 9 states can determin the outcome of our elections. By using the popular vote at least all will be heard from. Just think, instead of concentrating on just 9 states, the politicians would have to spread themselves out more.,
I also believe that instead of negative ads we should have free debates for all the canidates on local television(nbc, cbs etc) since the public subsidizes them. That would deminish the need for so much campaign money and give every canidate a chance, instead of who has the most money to spend.

Then Al Gore would have won the 2000 election under your rules.  :biggrin:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

mcgonser

Quote from: Exterminator on April 20, 2009, 12:55:34 PM
It isn't a question of agreeing with another side; it's a question of believing in the very fabric of our society which you clearly do not.

See there you go again. Saying your opinion of this is the only right opinion and every one elses opinion is dead wrong. I don't know how to break it to you, but you could be wrong :o. The difference is that I aknowledge your right to your opinion and don't put you down for it or tell you to move somewhere else. Chew on that awhile
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Exterminator

Quote from: mcgonser on April 20, 2009, 01:42:00 PM
See there you go again. Saying your opinion of this is the only right opinion and every one elses opinion is dead wrong. I don't know how to break it to you, but you could be wrong :o. The difference is that I aknowledge your right to your opinion and don't put you down for it or tell you to move somewhere else. Chew on that awhile

Uh, no, it isn't my opinion; it is the United States Constitution.  It's been working just fine for us for well over 200 years; if you don't like what it says, GTFO!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

mcgonser

Whoa!!!!! Why so angry!!!!!Got a problem???? Who do you think you are talking to?? You can take that attitude and put it where the sun don't shine Ex:

Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!