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Same sex marriage - why such a big deal

Started by DannyBoy, April 09, 2009, 10:10:43 PM

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DannyBoy

April 09, 2009, 10:10:43 PM
Talk about a small minority of the population taking up a huge amount of resources on this debate.  What's the big deal.  Let them have their 'marriage'....who is it going to hurt.  I don't understand the massive opposition.  If the homophobes are worried about righteous people's exposure to homosexuality....we are all certainly being overexposed by this continuing debate.  They've wasted more tax dollars and resources debating and fighting it than it will ever cost.

I do not condone homosexuality, in fact it makes me want to puke.  However I still don't see what the big deal is.  It is their lives.  I'm sick of having it shoved in my face with this debate.

Sandy Eggo

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April 10, 2009, 12:02:47 AM
That's the key Danny. No one should care. However, as typical a few think they have the right to force their personal preferences under the guise of morality (neither of which they have a right to push) on others.




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Ma and Pa

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April 10, 2009, 12:22:15 AM
Morality CAN NOT be legislated. Never could be, never will.

mcgonser

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April 10, 2009, 08:19:11 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 10, 2009, 12:02:47 AM
That's the key Danny. No one should care. However, as typical a few think they have the right to force their personal preferences under the guise of morality (neither of which they have a right to push) on others.

Kind of like how some of you guys push your agenda on this forum under the guise of facts and truth??????????
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

pariann

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April 10, 2009, 08:45:05 AM
Are they facts and truth?   If so.....what's the agenda?  To promote facts and truth?
Looks like I've come full circle.

Henry Hawk

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April 10, 2009, 09:16:10 AM
First of all, I'm against the gay lifestyle as much as I'm against husbands and wives who cheat on each other or any sexual immorality...It is MY personal belief, that this is just another cancer of our society...

with THAT said...as a Christian, I am and do, love all my neighbors....despite the sin.....we ALL have them.....and I agree with Pa, laws cannot change what is in peoples hearts...I know that many gays are as sincere with their partners as many straight people....it is the flamboyant, deviant sexually immoral freaks (for a lack of a better word), that I find repulsive...the Bible is quite clear that sexual immorality (gays or straight) is wrong...and Marriage is sacred....being that I am protected by our Constitution to have freedom of religion...I am free to practice my beliefs, based upon the Bible..which I dearly hold sacred...

I am simply TRYING to state MY beliefs...the Bible says:

1 Cor. 7:2. ... each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

Heb. 13:4. Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure...

I just do not like the word "marriage" for gay couples because I think that this word should be reserved for a woman- man connection....as my Bible tells me....for me to NOT stand for this, would be unconscionable

I am not against relationships of gays, life partnership and legal tax equality and all the support a married couple should have....I honestly DO realize that my personal beliefs cannot be SHOVED down others throats.... but marriage SHOULD be protected for and man and a woman..... Same sex marriage ... well, THAT IS A BIG DEAL TO ME... :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

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April 10, 2009, 09:24:19 AM
Quote from: pariann on April 10, 2009, 08:45:05 AM
Are they facts and truth?   If so.....what's the agenda?  To promote facts and truth?

BRAVO!!!!!!!!

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

mcgonser

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April 10, 2009, 09:28:07 AM
Quote from: Bo D on April 10, 2009, 09:24:19 AM
BRAVO!!!!!!!!

You will notice that I said "In  The Guise of Truth And Facts"
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Bo D

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April 10, 2009, 09:31:09 AM
Quote from: mcgonser on April 10, 2009, 09:28:07 AM
You will notice that I said "In  The Guise of Truth And Facts"

Was I speaking to you?

;)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

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April 10, 2009, 09:39:30 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 10, 2009, 09:16:10 AM
I just do not like the word "marriage" for gay couples because I think that this word should be reserved for a woman- man connection....as my Bible tells me....for me to NOT stand for this, would be unconscionable

But certainly you understand that passing any law based on your belief is nothing other than the government endorcing and enforcing a religious view?

As far as the word 'marriage' being sacred because of its use in the bible that's absolute bullshit because the word didn't exist in any language when the bible was written.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

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April 10, 2009, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 10, 2009, 09:39:30 AM
But certainly you understand that passing any law based on your belief is nothing other than the government endorcing and enforcing a religious view?

As far as the word 'marriage' being sacred because of its use in the bible that's absolute bullshit because the word didn't exist in any language when the bible was written.

Nisueen is the hebrew word USED in the Bible...for marriage.....marriage is implied several times throughout the Bible...the word marriage IS a Kings James verison of ALL the implications in the Bible where it directs a covenant between a man and a woman...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

pariann

#11
April 10, 2009, 10:07:08 AM
Quote from: mcgonser on April 10, 2009, 09:28:07 AM
You will notice that I said "In  The Guise of Truth And Facts"
I noticed you used that word, but the question still is.....is it facts and truth.  Because if what is shown/discussed is backed up by facts and truth, then the agenda is to promote just that.......why would anyone have a problem with becoming educated with facts and truth?
Looks like I've come full circle.

Exterminator

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April 10, 2009, 10:27:54 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 10, 2009, 10:06:01 AM
Nisueen is the hebrew word USED in the Bible...for marriage.....marriage is implied several times throughout the Bible...the word marriage IS a Kings James verison of ALL the implications in the Bible where it directs a covenant between a man and a woman...

If the original bible was written in hebrew and nisueen is the word used in that text, one might be able to make a case for the sanctity of that word but to make a case for the sanctity of every word in every language into which the bible has been translated is absurd.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

mcgonser

#13
April 10, 2009, 11:17:22 AM
Quote from: Bo D on April 10, 2009, 09:31:09 AM
Was I speaking to you?

You need to specify who you are talking too. I know why don't you go to instant messages or something like that and talk privately. When you post something publicly(duh) it becomes public domain. Get off my back BO!
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Bo D

#14
April 10, 2009, 11:28:32 AM
Quote from: mcgonser on April 10, 2009, 11:17:22 AM
You need to specify who you are talking too. I know why don't you go to instant messages or something like that and talk privately. When you post something publicly(duh) it becomes public domain. Get off my back BO!

Touchy, aren't we? Does your browser not show the little wink in my post .... like this ... ?
;)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan
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