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Started by me, March 27, 2009, 08:39:36 AM

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me

I posted this for the bolded underlined part.   

Official: Mexico not in danger of collapse

By PAM HESS – 16 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Mexican government is not on the verge of collapse, the top U.S. intelligence official said Thursday, seeking to tamp down increasing alarm over the powerful and violent drug cartels operating in the country that is the United States' southern neighbor.

"Mexico is in no danger of becoming a failed state," said National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair at his first news conference Thursday.

Echoing the assessment of Mexico's leaders, Blair said the dramatic increase in killings in Mexico is a result of that government's crackdown on drug cartels.

A U.S. military planning report issued in January warned that the escalating violence is dangerously destabilizing Mexico and warned its government could collapse. But Blair said there is no danger of that.

Nevertheless, the Obama administration announced Tuesday that it will dispatch nearly 500 more federal agents to the border, along with X-ray machines and drug-sniffing dogs, to stop the spillover of violence into the U.S. from Mexican drug smugglers and immigrant smugglers. National Guardsmen might also be sent.

"The Mexican campaign is our campaign," Blair said.

During his news conference, Blair also said the Obama administration is still wrestling with what to do with the remaining 240 detainees at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, which the president has ordered closed.

Some of the detainees, deemed non-threatening, may be released into the United States as free men, Blair confirmed.

That would happen when they can't be returned to their home countries, because the governments either won't take them or the U.S. fears they will be abused or tortured. That is the case with 17 Uighers (WEE'-gurz), Chinese Muslim separatists who were cleared for release from the jail long ago. The U.S. can't find a country willing to take them, and it will not turn them over to China.

Blair said the former prisoners would have get some sort of assistance to start their new lives in the United States. :confused:

"We can't put them out on the street," he said.

Blair said the U.S. government is building dossiers on each of the prisoners at Guantanamo and is still developing the process that will determine what happens to them. Some may face criminal trials in the U.S. civilian courts and be imprisoned in U.S. jails. Others will be remanded to their home governments for continued jailing or potential rehabilitation.

The Pentagon claims more than 60 former Guantanamo inmates have been released by their home governments and are believed to be engaged in militant activities. It has not released a list of those former prisoners. Two of the top al-Qaida leaders in Yemen are former inmates, according to both al-Qaida and U.S. intelligence officials. And the Taliban's top operations officer in southern Afghanistan was released from Guantanamo in 2007, according to U.S. intelligence and military officials.

On another matter, Blair said the United States will no longer waterboard prisoners_ a form of simulated drowning that was used against three alleged terrorists in 2002 and 2003. But other "enhanced interrogation techniques" are being considered for inclusion in the methods finally approved for use. He did not say what methods he would consider retaining. The CIA's enhanced interrogation program is classified. Blair is a key figure in the White House review of the CIA's interrogation program.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hAuRnefeehLy7i8HyzT98iON4QOQD975U2TG0

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kimmi

I don't know if that is true or not, but I wish the US would stop being everyone's babysitter!  :rolleyes:
Take time to smell the roses.

me

Me too.  We can't take care of our own for taking care of everyone else.  If they can't go back to their own country there must be a reason so I say let China have them.
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Ma and Pa

The first part of the article is news to me: I had considered Mexico to be a failed state for the last 100 years or so. Why else would its citizens have fled their native land in such droves, if Mexico had been able to carry on its affairs of state? Your thoughts?

me

I think it changes with the tide.  I figure it this way.  They are over here getting the freebies and sending the biggest part of their wages or whatever money they get back to Mexico.  They are also buying a lot of things they can get cheaper here and taking them back and selling them for a higher price there.  I think the big whine was if we shipped them all back the country would go into a tailspin because the money flow from here would stop.
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Palehorse

Mexico is just the rest of Texas waiting to happen!  :wink:
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kimmi

Quote from: me on March 27, 2009, 11:30:21 AM
I think it changes with the tide.  I figure it this way.  They are over here getting the freebies and sending the biggest part of their wages or whatever money they get back to Mexico.  They are also buying a lot of things they can get cheaper here and taking them back and selling them for a higher price there.  I think the big whine was if we shipped them all back the country would go into a tailspin because the money flow from here would stop.

But they are not the only immigrants who send money home to family.  I worked with a guy from somewhere in Africa and he sent half of both of his paychecks back to his father every two weeks. 

If we shipped them all back, where the heck would I get good Mexican food from?  I can't go back to Chi Chi's!  :razz:
Take time to smell the roses.

Palehorse

Trying to run them back home would be like herding cats; ain't happenin'!
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

If some of those Guantanamo inmates are turned loose over here we probably won't be concerned about Mexico or the immigrants 'cause we'll have other things to be concerned about.
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Ma and Pa

me--You ain't said the half of it!    :eek: