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Started by Gardengirl, March 19, 2009, 10:58:28 PM

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dan foster

#75
March 21, 2009, 06:16:04 PM
Quote from: me on March 21, 2009, 01:23:24 PM
Why are you such a nay sayer about everything Dan?  You seem to be soured on just about everything from what I can see.  Do you ever say anything up beat or positive?  Are you that unhappy?
I am really happy.  But, it is really easy to blame this group or that group, this person or that, for all the world's ills.  It is especially easy for any one generation to claim they have it right and all others, especially the newest one, all wrong (the old-fart mentality).  So, I didn't call anyone a name, I wasn't trying play down your upbeat assessment.  I just disagree with it.  Sorry if that rubs you the wrong way.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Ma and Pa

#76
March 21, 2009, 06:17:41 PM
That's really why our local paper discontinued its "Hey Martha" forum. The upside: The Unknown Zone welcomed some of us with open arms -- now Ma & me got a buncha new friends! TYVM!

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dan foster

#77
March 21, 2009, 06:22:39 PM
Quote from: me on March 21, 2009, 12:24:48 PM
If you must write a book undo what Dr. Spock did.  His theories ruined a whole generation at least, maybe two.
Looks like you and kimmi were the ones complaining about all "those" people that lack the same "code" (good old fashioned manners, discipline, and respect).  Are you that unhappy?  Why such a naysayer?  How is it that I have to be unhappy to disagree with you?  Must be something wrong with me if I can't agree with you, huh?  Very interesting.  You seem to be a in the right thread espousing your views for others to follow.  Sorry to draw this out, but you asked...
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

me

#78
March 21, 2009, 07:13:28 PM
Quote from: dan foster on March 21, 2009, 06:22:39 PM
Looks like you and kimmi were the ones complaining about all "those" people that lack the same "code" (good old fashioned manners, discipline, and respect).  Are you that unhappy?  Why such a naysayer?  How is it that I have to be unhappy to disagree with you?  Must be something wrong with me if I can't agree with you, huh?  Very interesting.  You seem to be a in the right thread espousing your views for others to follow.  Sorry to draw this out, but you asked...
Maybe it's the way you disagree Dan.  You have to admit your post's are anything but nice most of the time and chocked full of negativity.  You will have to admit the Spock generation are a bunch of I, Me, Mine, inconsiderate, spoiled rotten, shove the blame for their mistakes of on everyone else, bunch of cry babies.
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kimmi

#79
March 21, 2009, 07:16:29 PM
Me I wouldn't worry about it.  I mean I guess it is rude to point out the elephant in the room, but I seem to do that quite well. If that makes me rude, so be it!

Besides, I'm a Gen X'er which means it is because I have daddy issues!  :razz:
Take time to smell the roses.

me

#80
March 21, 2009, 08:52:42 PM
Okey dokey what ever you say. I think I'm ready to kick back and play in the fun part of the forum for a few days anyway.... :biggrin:
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dan foster

#81
March 21, 2009, 10:59:12 PM
Quote from: me on March 21, 2009, 07:13:28 PM
Maybe it's the way you disagree Dan.  You have to admit your post's are anything but nice most of the time and chocked full of negativity.  You will have to admit the Spock generation are a bunch of I, Me, Mine, inconsiderate, spoiled rotten, shove the blame for their mistakes of on everyone else, bunch of cry babies.
Just pointing out the obvious...not sure how that is rude.  What is your generation, just out of curiosity?
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Dexter Morgan

#82
March 21, 2009, 11:37:06 PM
*crickets*
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me

#83
March 22, 2009, 02:23:21 AM
Quote from: dan foster on March 21, 2009, 10:59:12 PM
Just pointing out the obvious...not sure how that is rude.  What is your generation, just out of curiosity?
Ya know, I'm not sure.  I think I am the "rock and roll is gonna put you in hell" generation.  One of them thar baby boomers ya know..... :biggrin:
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dan foster

#84
March 22, 2009, 11:02:33 AM
Quote from: me on March 22, 2009, 02:23:21 AM
Ya know, I'm not sure.  I think I am the "rock and roll is gonna put you in hell" generation.  One of them thar baby boomers ya know..... :biggrin:
Well, that would put you squarely in the Dr Spock generation.  So, how spoiled and whiny are you?  You certainly seem to have a problem if someone doesn't see things YOUR way  :smile:
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

me

#85
March 22, 2009, 01:27:10 PM
Quote from: dan foster on March 22, 2009, 11:02:33 AM
Well, that would put you squarely in the Dr Spock generation.  So, how spoiled and whiny are you?  You certainly seem to have a problem if someone doesn't see things YOUR way  :smile:
You'd better think about that again.  The Spock generation is the one after mine....:p~~~~~
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me

#86
March 22, 2009, 01:31:38 PM
I'm referring to this generation:
QuoteIn the 1960s Spock gained new fame as a pacifist and Vietnam War protester.
when people really started getting heavy into him.
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dan foster

#87
March 22, 2009, 05:08:58 PM
Quote from: me on March 22, 2009, 01:31:38 PM
I'm referring to this generation:  when people really started getting heavy into him.

Nice try at the deception, but your quote is out of context.  His book was published in 1946 and just in time to catch ALL the boomer infants.  Or, were you trying to suggest, with your deceptive quote, that no one read the book until the 1960's?  :smile:  As usual, your Spock upbringing is showing through; get your way at all cost, even by cheating.  Thanks, you just proved your own point about "those" people.  :biggrin:

"Most members of the post-WWII generation of tots and toddlers probably didn't know the name, Dr. Benjamin Spock, until they were of college age, and heard of him as an outspoken critic of the Vietnam War.(the actual context of your quote, shame, shame)
...
How important was Dr. Spock? Important enough that the demographic he influenced-- the baby boomers-- is sometimes referred to as the "Spock generation." And what you think of this generation-- healthy and influential, or spoiled and self-indulgent-- often determines what you think of the pediatrician who reared them through the pages of his books."

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/forum/march98/spock.html
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

mcgonser

#88
March 22, 2009, 06:39:45 PM
I will have to disagree with you Dan: Having lived thru these years myself. Did you? His book became popular in the 60's with some of the parents  in that decade. Thank God not too much. I watched us switch over from the norm of raising your child like your parents did to Dr. Spock and Hippies. There was a definite split there. You will see some of these kids born in 70's and 80's now parents themselves. I myself did not pledge to his way but some of my friends did. I guess I really should stress that it was the mid 60's up. Call me whatever but I lived thru it myself and know what was going on.
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

me

#89
March 22, 2009, 06:42:03 PM
He sure had no influence on my parents and it was the next generation up from me who are the ones the influence was the most noticed in. As far as I know no one paid any attention to him until the late 50's and early 60's.
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