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Obama now wants to disarm U.S. pilots (to make it easier to hijack the planes)

Started by Gardengirl, March 18, 2009, 07:16:43 PM

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Sandy Eggo

What makes you think a pilot is necessarily more stable than a hijacker?
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on March 19, 2009, 10:02:08 AM
Would that be one coming from a hijacker or a pilot?

How does a hijacker get a gun onto an airplane?
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Exterminator

Quote from: Ma and Pa on March 19, 2009, 10:10:32 AM
And airline pilots tend to be a highly trained, very well disciplined lot, in general, often with a military background.

Uh, I'm a skydiver so I know a lot of pilots and this simply isn't true.  In fact, a good friend of mine who flies in the left seat had some trauma in his life a few years back for which he should have gotten counseling but he avoided doing so for fear he'd lose his license.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on March 19, 2009, 10:29:26 AM
Uh, I'm a skydiver so I know a lot of pilots and this simply isn't true.  In fact, a good friend of mine who flies in the left seat had some trauma in his life a few years back for which he should have gotten counseling but he avoided doing so for fear he'd lose his license.
You're talking about a small aircraft pilot not a pilot on a commercial airliner. Aren't there two, or more, different types of license's and a total different set of requirements from one to the other?
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on March 19, 2009, 10:52:55 AM
You're talking about a small aircraft pilot not a pilot on a commercial airliner. Aren't there two, or more, different types of license's and a total different set of requirements from one to the other?

Uh, no...my friend flies an Airbus A300 and if you had a clue, you would recognize that the reference to flying in the left seat means that he is a captain in an aircraft that requires two pilots.  There are plenty of commercial pilots who also skydive.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Sandy Eggo

That seems like a catch 22 - unable to get needed help for fear of losing your job. Poor guy.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Ma and Pa

Please refer to my post: I said airline pilots...in general....
I try not to say always or never, because there are usually (see, I did it again) exceptions to be found. And I stand by my post: Airline pilots, like surgeons and MOST teachers tend to take their jobs pretty seriously while on duty. If they need to get crazy off duty to decompress, I'm not the one to throw stones. Hope this clarifies.

kimmi

How about this - I don't want anyone in the cabin of the plane I'm in to have a gun!!!  That includes the pilot!! 
Take time to smell the roses.

me

I don't intend to be in a plane.  I'm one of those people who feels that if I had been meant to fly I would have been given wings.
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Ma and Pa

kimmi: I don't want anyone in the cabin of a plane I'm in to NEED a gun. But if a gun were needed, I'd rather it be in the hands of one of the "good guys". No disrespect intended to you for your dislike of firearms.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on March 19, 2009, 11:20:26 AM
Uh, no...my friend flies an Airbus A300 and if you had a clue, you would recognize that the reference to flying in the left seat means that he is a captain in an aircraft that requires two pilots.  There are plenty of commercial pilots who also skydive.
That's why I asked instead to stated.  My uncle used to have his license and so did my aunt but I never got into the license end of it because I didn't care.  They are both in their 80's now so had to give it up due to failing health but my Uncle did do some commercial stuff, although not on a large scale, and also taught. 
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me

Quote from: kimmi on March 19, 2009, 08:47:38 AM
Who initially gave them the power to carry weapons?
Congress did and Bush didn't think it was a good idea either so I have no clue why he even signed the bill unless it was stuffed in with a bill he couldn't not sign.  Didn't bother to check it out that far. 
(the double negative was on purpose Ex) :razz:
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on March 19, 2009, 11:54:03 AM
That's why I asked instead to stated.

No, you said, "You're talking about a small aircraft pilot not a pilot on a commercial airliner," and you were wrong.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on March 19, 2009, 12:22:10 PM
No, you said, "You're talking about a small aircraft pilot not a pilot on a commercial airliner," and you were wrong.
I've never known anyone to parachute from a commercial airliner.  That is what I was referring to, you knowing pilots because you were a skydiver.
Quote from: Exterminator on March 19, 2009, 10:29:26 AM
Uh, I'm a skydiver so I know a lot of pilots and this simply isn't true.  In fact, a good friend of mine who flies in the left seat had some trauma in his life a few years back for which he should have gotten counseling but he avoided doing so for fear he'd lose his license.
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