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Started by Sandy Eggo, March 07, 2009, 10:35:46 AM

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Exterminator

Quote from: me on March 08, 2009, 08:35:08 PM
I'm probably saying this poorly but the government is doing more harm than good by interfering in business.

LMFAO!  Oh, please do grace us with your wealth of business knowledge.

QuoteYa'll keep spouting off about Bush's war putting us in this hole.  Well, how much of a hole would we have been in had the terrorists kept blowing sh*t up and killing people here plus the cost of Katrina and trying to get our military back up to snuff from the Clinton years?

:rolleyes: Get a clue: there was no connection between 9/11 and Iraq so that argument is garbage.  What you are essentially saying is that as long as the hundreds of billions are spent trying to give you quivering cowards the illusion of security, you're ok with it.  Well, here's some news for you...if our economy collapses, the level of violence you'll see in our society will make 9/11 look like child's play so you'd better hang up your partisan crap and get behind anyone who is actually doing something more than giving lip service to fixing the problems that Bush and you neocons created.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Gardengirl on March 08, 2009, 06:33:54 PM
Tons of people I know are sending a teabag to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. on April 1 to protest our tax monies being spent so foolishly on this "bailout." Over 9000 "earmarks" (used to be called Pork) in the spending bill and lots of Dems are not happy with it, either. If you feel the same, all it costs is a teabag and a stamp.

By tons of people do you mean a lot or just a few who are really fat?  I think we should each send you a douche-bag.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Ma and Pa on March 07, 2009, 11:20:40 AM
Here's another problem: I'm sick and tired of all these egocentric blowhards, never mind their political affiliations, who are so desperate to have their faces on TV, newspaper pages, and the Internet that they pose themselves as experts on the aspects of the stimulus bill and its ramifications for our economic future -- whether they really understand it or not, They rant, rave, and point fingers at items they consider to be worthless pork, while their evil twins rant and rave to defend the same. I think most of them could care less about the whole issue; they're really only interested in promoting themselves. Maybe we should leave the final dispensation on the matter to the ultimate look-at-me idjit, Donald Trump!    :mad:

You just described several people on this forum.   :biggrin:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

dan foster

Quote from: me on March 09, 2009, 01:39:43 AM
Since when is 40% more than 60%?

when the 40% pushes more than 40% of the pork...
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

me

Quote from: dan foster on March 10, 2009, 10:40:06 PM
when the 40% pushes more than 40% of the pork...
Huh?  The Republicans only wrote 40% of the pork that was in the bill that meant the Dems wrote 60% of it.
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dan foster

Quote from: me on March 10, 2009, 10:41:53 PM
Huh?  The Republicans only wrote 40% of the pork that was in the bill that meant the Dems wrote 60% of it.

Sorry, they took a bigger share than just 40.  In fact, the GOP was the largest spenders, per member, taking 6 of the top 10 spending spots.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Exterminator

Apparently, 'per member' is difficult to understand.

No one said there'd be math!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

mcgonser

Quote from: dan foster on March 10, 2009, 10:45:16 PM
Sorry, they took a bigger share than just 40.  In fact, the GOP was the largest spenders, per member, taking 6 of the top 10 spending spots.
Then why does California have 15% of the total pork for their state. I believe those 3 women of Eastwich(boxer, fienstein and Polisi) are dems. Acturally the Dems have the majority of the pork but for me any part of the pork is too much. I am personally going to see what reps from this state are supporting and will vote next time by this vote.Otherwise if they supported the bill I will be against them no matter what party they are. I think it is time for a new House and Senate myself and plan on not voting for anyone to stay next time.
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Exterminator

Quote from: mcgonser on March 11, 2009, 10:54:07 AM
Then why does California have 15% of the total pork for their state.

I know this'll be hard for you to wrap your little mind around but could it simply be because they are one of the largest and most populous states?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

kimmi

The one thing I find interesting is the thinking that all of these things that are considered "pork" are not new.  The government has been paying for this stuff for years and years. 

Here in North Carolina they are all bent out of shape because McCain used the beaver control in one of his last speeches against the pork.  The government has been funding this animal control since 1992.  So apparently the Clinton Admin. and the Bush Admin. seemed to think it was worth while.  Now all of a sudden it is pork. 
Take time to smell the roses.

Exterminator

Quote from: kimmi on March 11, 2009, 11:53:35 AM
The one thing I find interesting is the thinking that all of these things that are considered "pork" are not new.  The government has been paying for this stuff for years and years.

That's because politicians on both sides of the aisle bandy about the word 'earmark' and use them as specific examples of wasteful spending.  Since the majority of the public doesn't understand the way the process works, they buy into this political double-speak.  The reality is that an earmark is only an allocation of some part of an agency's budget for a specific purpose.  Adding or removing earmarks doesn't change the amount of money allocated to an agency; it only changes who is in control of what is done with those funds.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

DannyBoy

Sounds like you've got some Dr. Paul in you Ex.

dan foster

Quote from: DannyBoy on March 11, 2009, 10:01:27 PM
Sounds like you've got some Dr. Paul in you Ex.

Dr Paul, Dr Kevorkian; some of my favorite heroes.  The independence of thought and sense of personal and financial freedom are long gone in most of our public figures.  The dems picked the smartest guy on their team, and they won.  The smartest guy on the GOP side is Ron Paul, but intelligence, and the Constitution, scare the shit out of those folks.  To the "conservatives", Ron Paul is a joke, but Rush is a "serious" kinda guy.  Talk about twisted.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

xman

 "Rick Santelli plans to throw the world's most expensive Tea Party to protest of the Stimulus Plan, serving hundred dollar bills steeped in hot water."

I wish he'd send some of those hundred dollar bills my way. It sure would stimulate me!
If Diogenes had looked in the mirror, he would have found a new hobby.

me

Quote from: xman on March 13, 2009, 02:48:28 PM
"Rick Santelli plans to throw the world's most expensive Tea Party to protest of the Stimulus Plan, serving hundred dollar bills steeped in hot water."

I wish he'd send some of those hundred dollar bills my way. It sure would stimulate me!
Me too.... :yes: :biggrin:
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