Obama mischaracterization of medical bankruptcies

[me]

There will always be terrorists that want to attack our country and it's nothing new. Bush utilized the fear created by the events of 9/11 to con the American people into feeling good about the expense and our involvement in a war in a country where we didn't need to be. Iraq and 9/11 had NOTHING to do with each other.

Not a double standard - two different things all together.

Wanting to and actually being able to are two different things.  Didn't you notice that no one did attack for 7yrs?  Isn't that something to feel good about? 

[Sandy Eggo]

Wanting to and actually being able to are two different things.  Didn't you notice that no one did attack for 7yrs?  Isn't that something to feel good about? 

Have another sip.

[me]

Have another sip.

So you think we would have been better off to just carry on talking and negotiating while they blew up our buildings and killed innocent people over here.  I suppose you don' think the military should have been built back up either. 

[Sandy Eggo]

So you think we would have been better off to just carry on talking and negotiating while they blew up our buildings and killed innocent people over here.  I suppose you don' think the military should have been built back up either. 

Exactly how did our presence in Iraq prevent this?

[Ma and Pa]

Keeping our citizenry safe and secure is the government's number one function and priority. Having said that, Homeland Security is a big, bad bulldog that is someday going to bite us ALL in the ass.       

[me]

Exactly how did our presence in Iraq prevent this?

You have been given that answer numerous times by different people.  Why do you think we weren't attacked?

[Exterminator]

Not a double standard - two different things all together.

No fair using logic!

[Exterminator]

Wanting to and actually being able to are two different things.  Didn't you notice that no one did attack for 7yrs?  Isn't that something to feel good about?

Yeah, that's wonderful but he was president for 8 years.

[Anne]

There will always be terrorists that want to attack our country and it's nothing new. Bush utilized the fear created by the events of 9/11 to con the American people into feeling good about the expense and our involvement in a war in a country where we didn't need to be. Iraq and 9/11 had NOTHING to do with each other.

Not a double standard - two different things all together.

No they aren't. Instilling fear in people is the same no matter what the reason. Do you really think anyone felt good about being in Iraq? That is like saying people felt good about being in Vietnam. No one I knew then or now felt good about either one. Some felt it was necessary, but never good. At any rate the aim of instilling fear over anything is is to gain power over someone, Mr. Bush got to go into Iraq and President Obama gets to spend trillions of dollars on entitlements while telling us it will create jobs and make the economy better. Hopefully it isn't a pipe dream.

[Sandy Eggo]

"me" no one has ever been able to provide proof that the war in Iraq has prevented terror here. Think about it...why would invading a country that had noting to do with 9/11 prevent terror? Anne, apples and oranges.

[me]

"me" no one has ever been able to provide proof that the war in Iraq has prevented terror here. Think about it...why would invading a country thay had noting to do with 9/11 prevent terror? Anne, apples and oranges.

Isn't the fact we haven't been attacked proof enough?  You didn't answer my question ya know.  Why do you think we weren't attacked.  You must have an opinion since you have the opinion that us going to Iraq had nothing to do with it and just because ain't gonna get it.

[Anne]

"me" no one has ever been able to provide proof that the war in Iraq has prevented terror here. Think about it...why would invading a country that had noting to do with 9/11 prevent terror? Anne, apples and oranges.

Another one of those things that we will always disagree about. Imo, trying to make people fearful of something is a power play no matter what your objective is.

[Exterminator]

No they aren't. Instilling fear in people is the same no matter what the reason.

And will ultimately have exactly the same result.

Do you really think anyone felt good about being in Iraq? That is like saying people felt good about being in Vietnam. No one I knew then or now felt good about either one. Some felt it was necessary, but never good.

Both have accomplished the same thing: nothing.

At any rate the aim of instilling fear over anything is is to gain power over someone, Mr. Bush got to go into Iraq and President Obama gets to spend trillions of dollars on entitlements while telling us it will create jobs and make the economy better. Hopefully it isn't a pipe dream.

Please explain to us how the bulk of the economic stimulus plan falls into the category of 'entitlements'.

[Exterminator]

Isn't the fact we haven't been attacked proof enough?

No; the two have no direct relationship.

Why do you think we weren't attacked.

Because it isn't necessary.  One attack was apparently all it takes to get us to abandon our principles and ignore our constitution.

[Henry Hawk]

why is it that everyone forgets WHY we attacked Iraq?

It was spelled out by the Clinton Administration...CLEARLY!

Bush actually carried out what SHOULD have been carried out by Clinton....

It was voted upon ALMOST unanimously by the house AND the senate....

the UN agreed that military action was needed....

NOBODY ever said there was a direct connection between the two.............but, it was declared that Iraq WAS a threat..........and AFTER 9/11........President Bush did NOT take lightly to threats....and did what HE felt was best for this country........and EVERYBODY agreed until things got tough!...and THEN everybody turned against him....and started pointing fingers.

THAT is EXACTLY what happened....period.