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Started by Henry Hawk, February 17, 2009, 08:23:44 AM

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#30
February 18, 2009, 10:29:53 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on February 18, 2009, 10:24:19 AM
Again (for the thick-headed), there are a lot of other bills associated with this; have you read tham all and what in your life experience has prepared you to actually understand such complex legislation?
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Exterminator

#31
February 18, 2009, 10:33:55 AM
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

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#32
February 18, 2009, 10:41:32 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on February 18, 2009, 10:33:55 AM
Oh, good for you; you found one of many!  :rolleyes:
And I suppose you're going to tell me that you've read and understand all of them, I assume you clicked the link and noticed there were several in there.
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Sandy Eggo

#33
February 18, 2009, 11:02:38 AM
Ex is right about the availability of information on the library of Congress website since the bill's incepton...wasn't that on or about 1/26? Plenty of time for the American people to read it as it developed, if they so chose to. Seems that kicks the broken promises *cough* theory right in the pants. As for the pork...how exactly do any of you naysayers think the economy is going to become stimulated if someone isn't a recipient of the stimulus? Bush tried handing it to the people and it didn't work.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Henry Hawk

#34
February 18, 2009, 11:09:36 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on February 18, 2009, 09:14:54 AM
LMAO!  I love it when people who have no formal education in the Constitution beyond a social studies class in high school try to explain it to those of us who do...especially when they try to tell us it was founded on an invisible man in the sky!

It does not take a scholar to understand the Constitution, pal.  It is extremely clear on it's intent, and how it is being violated over the course of years.


Quote from: Exterminator on February 18, 2009, 09:14:54 AM
I think you're confusing this administration with the last one in whose ass your nose is still so firmly implanted.

Time WILL tell the whole story...that is if you can take those blinders off, long enough to actually see... ;)
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#35
February 18, 2009, 11:18:28 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 18, 2009, 11:02:38 AM
Ex is right about the availability of information on the library of Congress website since the bill's incepton...wasn't that on or about 1/26? Plenty of time for the American people to read it as it developed, if they so chose to. Seems that kicks the broken promises *cough* theory right in the pants. As for the pork...how exactly do any of you naysayers think the economy is going to become stimulated if someone isn't a recipient of the stimulus? Bush tried handing it to the people and it didn't work.

the package was being modified up until 2/7.....and as far as the broken promises theories...he has BROKEN them...HE is the one who made the claims of NO PORK and giving Americans amble time to review bills that are to be voted on....

HE LIED......period.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Sandy Eggo

#36
February 18, 2009, 11:39:08 AM
2/7 until it was signed yesterday that's more than 5 days on my calendar and even more if you count weekends and holidays. It was available the entire process, for the whole world to see, so no promise broken. As for pork, exactly how do you think the economy will be stimulated without beneficiaries?
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Henry Hawk

#37
February 18, 2009, 11:52:09 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 18, 2009, 11:39:08 AM
2/7 until it was signed yesterday that's more than 5 days on my calendar and even more if you count weekends and holidays. It was available the entire process, for the whole world to see, so no promise broken. As for pork, exactly how do you think the economy will be stimulated without beneficiaries?

How is it, stimulating our economy, when we are spending 360 million on a Frisbee golf course?...that is just one of many, ridicules and shamefull attachments.

and it is supposed to be linked to the White House, easily accessable for everyone...according to Mr BHO.

and again.....HE is the one who said.."no more pork"....his words not mine....and yet there was a bill .... LOADED....with pork. 
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

#38
February 18, 2009, 12:07:07 PM
Don't forget about the money that was in it to protect a marsh mouse from extinction.
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Palehorse

#39
February 18, 2009, 12:55:08 PM
It's just too bad he didn't go ahead and veto this thing, and let the economy just sink further down the tubes; while we waited for a pork-free, totally agreed upon, reviewed and signed off version of a utopian bill designed to make the whole thing go away, and totally meet everyone's expectations and approval.

:rolleyes:

Flaming monkies will fly from my ass before that will happen, and before the twins here approve of anything the current POTUS ever does. 4 years of whining. . .  :rolleyes:
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Sandy Eggo

#40
February 18, 2009, 01:05:12 PM
Oh my PH that makes me never want that to happen, for your sake. ;D me and Henry, do you have a link to those provisions? Let's discuss them?
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Palehorse

#41
February 18, 2009, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 18, 2009, 01:05:12 PM
Oh my PH that makes me never want that to happen, for your sake. ;D me and Henry, do you have a link to those provisions? Let's discuss them?

I hope the POTUS veto's each and every bill that comes through congress and back to his desk with any pork in it what so ever. I hope he line item veto's every piece of pork, every time it appears. I'll giggle like a school girl when congress becomes gridlocked in power trips and special interest initiatives, as they begin to consume one another and nothing what so ever gets passed for well over 36 months.

And I'll gleefully watch the peanut gallery from the friendly confines of my old corrugated box, as they dance their victory dane when the entire government and this nation collapses; whilst sharing a toast of globally warmed rain water collected from the tarp covering my corrugate mansion, with my spouse in her adjoinging wing.

Burn you little rock throwers, burn!  :rolleyes:

I believe you guys must want the entire congress to become muslim. . . It must be that because you don't want any pork!  :razz:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#42
February 18, 2009, 01:27:23 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on February 18, 2009, 12:55:08 PM
It's just too bad he didn't go ahead and veto this thing, and let the economy just sink further down the tubes; while we waited for a pork-free, totally agreed upon, reviewed and signed off version of a utopian bill designed to make the whole thing go away, and totally meet everyone's expectations and approval.

:rolleyes:

Flaming monkies will fly from my ass before that will happen, and before the twins here approve of anything the current POTUS ever does. 4 years of whining. . .  :rolleyes:

your darn RIGHT it's too bad we did NOT veto this BILL....we cannot spend our way out of debt.....that is a basic fundamental rule.....and it is the 'debt' that is the REAL problem here....and GOVERNMENT controlling of what we do, goes against our Constituion....this Bill, did NOT have to be done today.....we did NOT get in this mess in one day and it is going to take TIME to get out of it.....

I did not get bailed out of my mess....I had to work hard and pay it back....I have done without....and I STILL am, to assure that I don't EVER get in a mess again....MAYBE THAT is what HAVES to happen to America, in order to knock the dust off of our chaps and get back on our feet....

the bottom line IS....the democrats ARE in control now, and they are going to shove every piece of legislation into an enormous bill, and tell americans that IF it don't happen now, we will NEVER recover.....this is not the HOPE & CHANGE that MOST americans voted on......

funny, I just heard BHO say on the radio....."Americans need to learn how to live within their means and be accountable for their actions".........THAT IS NOT LEADERSHIP.....THAT IS THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK.... :rant:

time will tell us the answer......

This is an issue, I am not going to sit back and quietly take it in without expressing MY concerns for this country.

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#43
February 18, 2009, 01:30:38 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on February 18, 2009, 01:20:29 PM
Burn you little rock throwers, burn!  :rolleyes:


:no:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

#44
February 18, 2009, 01:37:23 PM
I'll be back later.  I've got to go borrow and spend myself out of debt.  :biggrin:
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