Broken Promises and Lies..

[Henry Hawk]

Stimulus Bill Broke 7 Obama Promises....

7 Broken Promises in Record Time
1. Make government open and transparent.

2. Make it "impossible" for Congressmen to slip in pork barrel projects.

3. Meetings where laws are written will be more open to the public. (Even Congressional Republicans shut out.)

4. No more secrecy.

5. Public will have 5 days to look at a bill.

6. You'll know what's in it.

7. We will put every pork barrel project online.

Funny, but not one of Mr. Obama's promises were met with the most expensive spending bill in our nation's history


Obama breaks five-day pledge   

[Palehorse]

Stimulus Bill Broke 7 Obama Promises....

7 Broken Promises in Record Time
1. Make government open and transparent.

2. Make it "impossible" for Congressmen to slip in pork barrel projects.

3. Meetings where laws are written will be more open to the public. (Even Congressional Republicans shut out.)

4. No more secrecy.

5. Public will have 5 days to look at a bill.

6. You'll know what's in it.

7. We will put every pork barrel project online.

Funny, but not one of Mr. Obama's promises were met with the most expensive spending bill in our nation's history


Obama breaks five-day pledge

Funny how we aren't even willing to let the first 100 days go by before declaring him a failure.

Funny how those who plead for patience with the previous administration's decisions somehow can find none for the current administration.

Funny how almost everything on that list will require an extended effort and time window to achieve, but some expect it to have been accomplished in less than 30 days. . .

[Henry Hawk]

funny, how I simply pointed out 7 LIES, and they are outright lies, and we need to give him a 100 days?........for what?

I have no choice, but to give him 4-years...and I honestly hope he makes this a better place for everyone to live.....but MY personal ideology totally disagrees with HIS...so, HE needs to win ME over, IF he wants me to get all excited about things to come.

I did NOT make ANYTHING up here....there are 7 blatant lies, that HE campaigned on....and he LIED.

period.

[Palehorse]

funny, how I simply pointed out 7 LIES, and they are outright lies, and we need to give him a 100 days?........for what?

I have no choice, but to give him 4-years...and I honestly hope he makes this a better place for everyone to live.....but MY personal ideology totally disagrees with HIS...so, HE needs to win ME over, IF he wants me to get all excited about things to come.

I did NOT make ANYTHING up here....there are 7 blatant lies, that HE campaigned on....and he LIED.

period.

Where's the "blind faith" you extended to the "Chimp"? Where's the respect for the position? Where's the trust?

1. That faith went out the window when your party left office didn't it?

2. That respect for the position was nothing more than political propaganda, which also left with the party.

3. Trust has to be earned, but an openness to change and a willingness to patiently await resultsmust be extended as well.

Could you pack up everything you own, take care of your outstanding responsibilities, and move your household to another state inside of 30 days with no problems? I doubt it. I doubt anyone outside of the military could do so.

Yet. . . you are willing to trash the POTUS for "failing" to uphold campaign promises that are going to take months, (if not years), to achieve because they are not implemented within 30 days of taking office? Thats unacceptable Hank.

You start a new job they typically give you 90 days to demonstrate proficiency in the attributes and skills necessary to be successful in the position. We aren't even giving the POTUS 30 days? Why?

Why are we so critical of someone who is acting in an urgent manner to improve something that in his/her best judgment is vital to the future of this nation? Especially when that person is the POTUS?

We trusted the POTUS to send our men and women to the litterbox, based upon "his" judgment didn't we? And that is also costing trillions!

In the current POTUS's judgment the current economic situation is just as dire as that which triggered the deployment of our men and women in the military. Perhaps even more so, because for all we know the future of this very country may be hanging in the balance! (he has all but said so).

Yet, some of us want to lambaste him for not rewriting the procedures and protocols for legislation within 30 days of taking office? That isn't even anywhere in the neighborhood of reasonable in my opinion. . .

[Henry Hawk]

PH.....he lied!! period.

and I am simply pointing that out....these are not little white lies.....they are OUTRIGHT lies....

PH, I respect the position....but THAT position as it now seems, can NOT go 30 days without 'duping' the American TRUST.

THIS stimulus bill has not even given me a chance to 'trust' him.....I 100% disagree with the way it was handled......from his fearmongering....to the massive PORK attachements.

The fact that they spent OVER a TRILLION dollars, and expected everyone to have the...BLIND TRUST... as you put it.. 

PH, I have nothing but REAL admiration and respect for you and MOST of your opinions....

BUT, I am NOT going to sit back, and get ALL excited about MORE of what just happened (stimulus bill)

I, from the bottom of my heart, HOPE that THIS stimulus bill is successfull....for my families sake and for the sake of this Nation....

I will most certainly LAMBASTE HIM,  when I think HE is doing something wrong....It certainly did not stop the liberals for lambasting Mr. Bush, when they though HE did something wrong....

If things begin to turn out 'fantastic' as the left seem to claim...I will be the FIRST to salute this POTUS....

btw....there is NOTHING...I SAY NOTHING unreasonable in my opinion....for NOT agreeing with this last bill that was passed, .... it was WRONG.....if he would have given Americans TIME to look it over and IF he would have taken out 'some' of the pork....

look, he knew damn well HE was going to pass this bill..........He could have at least, lived up to HIS promises.....again I say 'HIS PROMISES'...

[Palehorse]

PH.....he lied!! period.

and I am simply pointing that out....these are not little white lies.....they are OUTRIGHT lies....

PH, I respect the position....but THAT position as it now seems, can NOT go 30 days without 'duping' the American TRUST.

THIS stimulus bill has not even given me a chance to 'trust' him.....I 100% disagree with the way it was handled......from his fearmongering....to the massive PORK attachments.

The fact that they spent OVER a TRILLION dollars, and expected everyone to have the...BLIND TRUST... as you put it.. 

PH, I have nothing but REAL admiration and respect for you and MOST of your opinions....

BUT, I am NOT going to sit back, and get ALL excited about MORE of what just happened (stimulus bill)

I, from the bottom of my heart, HOPE that THIS stimulus bill is successfull....for my families sake and for the sake of this Nation....

I will most certainly LAMBASTE HIM,  when I think HE is doing something wrong....It certainly did not stop the liberals for lambasting Mr. Bush, when they though HE did something wrong....

If things begin to turn out 'fantastic' as the left seem to claim...I will be the FIRST to salute this POTUS....

BTW....there is NOTHING...I SAY NOTHING unreasonable in my opinion....for NOT agreeing with this last bill that was passed, .... it was WRONG.....if he would have given Americans TIME to look it over and IF he would have taken out 'some' of the pork....

look, he knew damn well HE was going to pass this bill..........He could have at least, lived up to HIS promises.....again I say 'HIS PROMISES'...

You are blaming the POTUS for actions undertaken by congress first of all, and that is unreasonable. While he could adopt the dictatorial position you seem to desire here, all it would do is render him lame moving forward, and further restrict his ability to positively impact our future. Additionally, his doing so would certainly create legions of critics; especially when such an action would follow so closely on the heels of the previous administrations trampling of the US Constitution. (In the perspective of many).

Changing any governmental protocol or procedure will require (litterally) and "act of congress" to implement. Now, you've seen what they've done to the stimulus package; can you imagine what they are going to do to a bill sent through to change the way they do business?

The current POTUS tried to get the outgong POTUS to get things moving on a stimulus package, and stated that it would be his first order of business upon taking office. He never said, "right after I uphold all or some portion of my campaign promises". Yet, you act as if he did make such a statement. And, let's not forget the fact he didn't wait until he was sworn in to begin work on the stimulus package; he started right away in bringing together the best individuals possible to try to reach a solution that made sense.

To expect any individual within the position of POTUS to enact such broadsweeping changes within 30 days of taking office is unreasonable! It has taken them (congress) almost 30 days to "pass" a bill that in the eyes of many high level and well educated individuals is imperative to the future of this country. I submit it will take them in excess of 30 months to pass legislation to change the protocols for submission and passage of a bill, or emergency legislation.

We extended "blind trust" to the previous POTUS when he acted on our behalf to place our men and women into harm's way and spent trillions in the process; not to mention the price paid by thousands of families in the form of the ultimate sacrifice made by those men and women. (In the opinion of some we got burned big time by this one).

Will you back the current POTUS when he makes an announcement to increase personnel and actions within the Afghanistan theatre of operations later today/this week? (More trillions to be sure). 

[Henry Hawk]

You are blaming the POTUS for actions undertaken by congress first of all, and that is unreasonable. While he could adopt the dictatorial position you seem to desire here, all it would do is render him lame moving forward, and further restrict his ability to positively impact our future. Additionally, his doing so would certainly create legions of critics; especially when such an action would follow so closely on the heels of the previous administrations trampling of the US Constitution. (In the perspective of many).

Let me state, first AND foremost, I am blaming CONGRESS more so, than the POTUS....but, HE is the Leader, and could have lived up to one of his promises....and tell them to "knock out the pork and give me a bill that Americans CAN be proud of"....he did not.

Changing any governmental protocol or procedure will require (litterally) and "act of congress" to implement. Now, you've seen what they've done to the stimulus package; can you imagine what they are going to do to a bill sent through to change the way they do business?

It does not take legislation to tell congress to NOT put in ANY pork....it does NOT take legislation to tell give the public at least five days to look at the bill...it does NOT take legislation to not have a secret meetings on a bill...

The current POTUS tried to get the outgong POTUS to get things moving on a stimulus package, and stated that it would be his first order of business upon taking office. He never said, "right after I uphold all or some portion of my campaign promises". Yet, you act as if he did make such a statement. And, let's not forget the fact he didn't wait until he was sworn in to begin work on the stimulus package; he started right away in bringing together the best individuals possible to try to reach a solution that made sense.

The ONLY thing I am stating is .... he campaigned on the mentioned items....and he broke them right off the bat...his very first and most important bill.....and he broke HIS very own promises.

To expect any individual within the position of POTUS to enact such broadsweeping changes within 30 days of taking office is unreasonable! It has taken them (congress) almost 30 days to "pass" a bill that in the eyes of many high level and well educated individuals is imperative to the future of this country. I submit it will take them in excess of 30 months to pass legislation to change the protocols for submission and passage of a bill, or emergency legislation.

again the only thing that I am expecting out of him is to honor a few basic promises...that is it!

We extended "blind trust" to the previous POTUS when he acted on our behalf to place our men and women into harm's way and spent trillions in the process; not to mention the price paid by thousands of families in the form of the ultimate sacrifice made by those men and women. (In the opinion of some we got burned big time by this one).

Will you back the curent POTUS when he makes an announcement to increase personnel and actions within the Aphghanistan theatre of operations later today/this week? (More trillions to be sure). 

I am fully expecting him to do so....well, at least that is something he said he was going to do....maybe I better wait and see WHAT he is going to do...

btw....my son is part of the increased personnel that is heading to Afghanistan,...I hope and pray, that he will listen and act according to the Generals in charge of the safety of these outstanding men and women.

[Palehorse]

Well, clearly I'm not changing your perspective anytime soon on this, and I lack sufficient time to formulate a response to your last posting in any case.

Bottom line for me in this is I feel the critics of this need to zip it for awhile and let the man have some time to do his job before lambasting him. . .

But that's just me, your results may (and probably will) vary. . .

(Sorry for the misspelling in my quoted previous posting. Hank quoted before I had time to run spell check, so I'll forego posting anything further until such time as I can properly devote sufficient time to spelling prior to posting).

[Henry Hawk]

just want to bump this to the top of the page for those who are just joining in....

Stimulus Bill Broke 7 Obama Promises....

7 Broken Promises in Record Time
1. Make government open and transparent.

2. Make it "impossible" for Congressmen to slip in pork barrel projects.

3. Meetings where laws are written will be more open to the public. (Even Congressional Republicans shut out.)

4. No more secrecy.

5. Public will have 5 days to look at a bill.

6. You'll know what's in it.

7. We will put every pork barrel project online.

Funny, but not one of Mr. Obama's promises were met with the most expensive spending bill in our nation's history


Obama breaks five-day pledge   

[Ghost of Jaco]

You are blaming the POTUS for actions undertaken by congress first of all, and that is unreasonable. While he could adopt the dictatorial position you seem to desire here, all it would do is render him lame moving forward, and further restrict his ability to positively impact our future. Additionally, his doing so would certainly create legions of critics; especially when such an action would follow so closely on the heels of the previous administrations trampling of the US Constitution. (In the perspective of many). ...

He has  the power to veto the bill. He could do so and call a press conference lambasting the pork in it and chiding the House and Senate to produce a pork-free bill that he will sign. President Bush didn't write the CFR bill, but he is the one who signed it into law, knowing full well that it undermined the First Amendment. I blame them all for that one, actually, including the Supreme Court who failed to overturn it.

It's part and parcel of the three branches having oversight of each other. Mr. Obama should have vetoed the bill.

[Henry Hawk]

He has  the power to veto the bill. He could do so and call a press conference lambasting the pork in it and chiding the House and Senate to produce a pork-free bill that he will sign. President Bush didn't write the CFR bill, but he is the one who signed it into law, knowing full well that it undermined the First Amendment. I blame them all for that one, actually, including the Supreme Court who failed to overturn it.

It's part and parcel of the three branches having oversight of each other. Mr. Obama should have vetoed the bill.

especially when he PROMISED to no longer allow porkful spending....

[Ma and Pa]

I guess this is where a line-item veto would come in handy. "Course the POTUS would normally use that to boost his own party's interests, and steamroll those of the opposition, wouldn't he? And the Hell with ALL of us!   

[Anne]

How hard could it be to post the bill on line? Surely it was produced on a computer and somewhere in Washington there is a computer person talented enough to post it on the internet so all could read it, even if it was done after it was passed and sent to the President to sign. I wonder if it will ever be made available to the public with a reasonable way to obtain a copy of the stimulus bill.

[Bo D]

How hard could it be to post the bill on line? Surely it was produced on a computer and somewhere in Washington there is a computer person talented enough to post it on the internet so all could read it, even if it was done after it was passed and sent to the President to sign. I wonder if it will ever be made available to the public with a reasonable way to obtain a copy of the stimulus bill.

It's up there. And no ... I won't spoon feed it to you.

Maybe Fox or Rush will point you to it.

[me]

Rather lengthy but you can get some sort of an idea from this.  And Bo D it didn't come from and email, Fox, or Rush. 

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h1eh.txt.pdf