Those Against Abortion yet Pro-Capital Punishment and War

[Sandy Eggo]

I don't disagree with that but the question is what about the cases where one doesn't want to bring the life into the world and the other does. Is the one who opposed obligated to support that decision financially, and what if they do not want to or cannot?

More than likely, they'd have to pay if someone petitions the court. Which is exactly why I made my original comment.

[Anne]

Correction noted.

Say! that begets a question or two:
What if a man and a woman use in vitro for conception and implant the embryo in a surrogate? Who, then, has "rights" to tear the little bugger into pieces and flush it out with the rest of the biological waste? And who's legally responsible for it if it's damn lucky to make it out alive?

What if the egg donor changes her mind, but the sperm donor and the surrogate do not?
What if it's only the sperm donor who changes his mind?
What if both donors change their minds but the surrogate does not?
What if only the surrogate changes her mind?
Do the answers change if the doctor made the implant without the donor's knowledge and consent?

(I'm starting to like my "everybody has a right to their own DNA argument" better and better, lol!)

All questions for the courts to decide unfortunately. Do donors have a choice of who gets their "donation". I thought that part was anonymous.

[kimmi]

Okay can we just let a woman decide what to do with her body please?  I mean there are men in this world who I would love to make get the old "snip snip" but do not have the right to tell them that. 

[Henry Hawk]

Okay can we just let a woman decide what to do with her body please?  I mean there are men in this world who I would love to make get the old "snip snip" but do not have the right to tell them that. 

how rude!!.......

[me]

All questions for the courts to decide unfortunately. Do donors have a choice of who gets their "donation". I thought that part was anonymous.

Sometimes the parents will pick a surrogate like a sister or good friend when they want a child.

[Dexter Morgan]

Here's a true story that is extremely sad.... I used to have a friend that was forced by her parents to have an abortion as a teenager.

This friend was in a steady relationship, and a senior in high school. She was engaged to the father. When her parents found out she was pregnant, they physically dragged her kicking, and screaming to have an abortion. She wanted to keep her baby but, back in those days it was shameful for a teenaged girl to be pregnant, and unwed. So, instead of letting her get married, (she was weeks away from turning 18) they legally killed their grandchild. She was completely heartbroken for her lost child, and cried endlessly for months and months. Her and the babie's father wed two months after the murder of their unborn child. She became pregnant again, and misscarried the child. She felt she was being punished by God. She was a firm believer in God. She later got pregnant, and had 3 healthy children. The really sad part of this story is... she has never been able to come to grips with her child being murdered, and has been an alcoholic, and drug addict since the abortion. She is completely messed up, and her and her husband divorced after 15 years of marriage because, the abortion was always there eating at them. It was always in their face. The father died of a drug overdose about 3 years ago. Abortion does affect people who have a conscience. There's a site called Abortion TV.com it is extremely graphic and brutal but it gives an accurate account as to what an abortion really is. The section on partial birth abortion tells the actual brutality of the procedure step by step, and the images are extremely graphic. After seeing that site I had a better concept of what abortion is.  .

[Exterminator]

Sure, blame it all on the abortion.  Sounds to me like they were both a couple of whacked losers but it's great that they got the chance to pass on those great genes!   

[me]

Sure, blame it all on the abortion.  Sounds to me like they were both a couple of whacked losers but it's great that they got the chance to pass on those great genes!   

I believe that comment was totally uncalled for Ex.  You know nothing about that couple and for you to pass judgment like that is just plane rude.

[dan foster]

Here's a true story that is extremely sad.... I used to have a friend that was forced by her parents to have an abortion as a teenager.

This friend was in a steady relationship, and a senior in high school. She was engaged to the father. When her parents found out she was pregnant, they physically dragged her kicking, and screaming to have an abortion. She wanted to keep her baby but, back in those days it was shameful for a teenaged girl to be pregnant, and unwed. So, instead of letting her get married, (she was weeks away from turning 18) they legally killed their grandchild. She was completely heartbroken for her lost child, and cried endlessly for months and months. Her and the babie's father wed two months after the murder of their unborn child. She became pregnant again, and misscarried the child. She felt she was being punished by God. She was a firm believer in God. She later got pregnant, and had 3 healthy children. The really sad part of this story is... she has never been able to come to grips with her child being murdered, and has been an alcoholic, and drug addict since the abortion. She is completely messed up, and her and her husband divorced after 15 years of marriage because, the abortion was always there eating at them. It was always in their face. The father died of a drug overdose about 3 years ago. Abortion does affect people who have a conscience. There's a site called Abortion TV.com it is extremely graphic and brutal but it gives an accurate account as to what an abortion really is. The section on partial birth abortion tells the actual brutality of the procedure step by step, and the images are extremely graphic. After seeing that site I had a better concept of what abortion is.  .

This doesn't explain anything but that faith in god leads to total disappointment.  Sounds like they didn't cope, but with problems much larger and more prevalent than an abortion.  To tie their problems to the abortion is an extremely long, and targeted, stretch on your part.  If it was solely the abortion that was the source of all their problems, then I would have to blame the religion for their failures.  Either way, the story doesn't wash.

[Dexter Morgan]

Sure, blame it all on the abortion.  Sounds to me like they were both a couple of whacked losers but it's great that they got the chance to pass on those great genes!   

Well, I guess a person such as yourself that is so cold hearted and without conscience, that it wouldn't affect you at all. Yeah... way ta be a toughy BIG MAN !!! I guess if you're into murdering unborn children so be it.  Thank God not everybody thinks like you do. 

[Dexter Morgan]

This doesn't explain anything but that faith in god leads to total disappointment.  Sounds like they didn't cope, but with problems much larger and more prevalent than an abortion.  To tie their problems to the abortion is an extremely long, and targeted, stretch on your part.  If it was solely the abortion that was the source of all their problems, then I would have to blame the religion for their failures.  Either way, the story doesn't wash.

Okey Dokey... Race Card Dan. 

[Doc]

Satan is lauging while  mothers murder their own children in the name of "freedom of choice". What choice do them babies have?

Thou shalt not kill - Exodus

[awol]

and this is why the no choice people don't get taken seriously.

[me]

and this is why the no choice people don't get taken seriously.

Did you ever stop to think it might have been your mother who might have chosen to have you aborted?  This is not a slam at your mother by any means it's just that you were given a chance why shouldn't other babies be given a chance? 

[Sandy Eggo]

Did you ever stop to think it might have been your mother who might have chosen to have you aborted?  This is not a slam at your mother by any means it's just that you were given a chance why shouldn't other babies be given a chance? 

His mother made a choice, you made a choice, so did I. Why can't other women be allowed to choose for themselves?