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Those Against Abortion yet Pro-Capital Punishment and War

Started by Mom, January 05, 2009, 07:24:32 PM

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Dexter Morgan

Quote from: dan foster on January 19, 2009, 10:27:46 PM
Sorry, you can blame the religious right for MY OPINIONS on abortion as it relates to morality; they are hypocrites.

Just a couple of questions on all the killing you would do for violent crimes;

- is it OK that a single innocent person die in a mistake as long as we are killing all those "bad people"?

- is it OK that 100,000+ innocent Iraqi civilians died as a mistake in order to kill the one really bad guy, saddam hussein?

Just curious.
 
I realize you have a problem with the "religious right". Obviously, you think that anybody that doesn't agree with what you believe in are the "religious right." Therefore, you attack people blindly because of your extreme hang up with the "religious right." When you ask about people not deserving to have sex because they're poor is completely ludicrous, and you obviously don't comprehend what you're reading in my posts. Here it is..... having sex is a normal function... but.... loose morals are the reason for a lot of abortions. People are abandoning their morals with this.... lets make a bunch of babies so we can live off welfare..or.... it's OK to have sex... if I get pregnant I can always get an abortion, or morning after pill. Moral fiber is what I am referring to. If a woman's life is in danger termination of the pregnancy is OK in my opinion. People need to be more responsible in their decision making. If you're going to have sex use protection of some sort. There are many birth control methods out there, and a majority of them are free at family planning. There's always the option of adoption too. It doesn't have to end in murder.

Regarding capitol punishment.... I stand firm on my belief in the death penalty. If you kill someone you should pay with your life. Now... before your panties get in a bunch here.... I do not think women who have abortions should be put to death. What goes around comes around, and they will be caught up with in the end.

Regarding the Iraqis... do they have the right to come on American soil and attack us? You defend them but, in reality most of them would rather see us Americans dead. Every country in the world pretty much hates America. They hated Bush and they will grow to hate Obama as well. They hate everything we stand for here in America.
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Dexter Morgan

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 20, 2009, 01:54:27 PM
Just to add my .02...Dex, I brought up religion. You mentioned "eye for an eye" and although you probably didn't mean it in the religious sense, you'll find that often the right wing religious Conservatives quote the "eye for an eye" scripture as "proof" that capitol punishment is "authorized" by the bible. What I was trying to point out is that the New Testament contradicts that thinking.


I don't know anything about the old or New Testament. I've never done any study of any sort on any religion. I believe in my God,and keep God in my own way. I don't condemn believers or non believers. Religion is pretty much a non issue with me, unless somebody throws it in my face one way... or the other.
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Dexter Morgan

Quote from: Doc on January 20, 2009, 11:52:39 PM
IMO the majority of liberals don't want us to defend ourselves no matter what. They actually believe wars would cease to be if we just began being nice to those who hate and want to kill us.

As for abortion  there have been aproximately 50 million legal abortions performed licensed practitioners that's 50 million dead babies. You know dang well if murdering the unborn is again outlawed, as it should be, the murder rate of unborn babies will drop dramatically. Very few women have the courage to get involved with back-alley abortions. But, you already knew that. 


This is interesting... the part about being nice to everybody, and they'll like us. Here's a funny story....

Today, when I got to work a co worker came to me and said "Did you know the war on terror is over?" I said  "What makes you think that?" He says "Obama closed down Guantanamo". I almost fell over.  :spooked: I told him just because Obama closed that place didn't mean there is world peace LMAO!!! Then I went on to mention that there's a real good chance, there will be another attack on America at some point. At least, we haven't been attacked since 9/11. I don't feel nearly as safe now though.  :no:
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dan foster

Quote from: Dexter Morgan on January 24, 2009, 12:10:22 AM
having sex is a normal function... but.... loose morals are the reason for a lot of abortions. People are abandoning their morals with this.... lets make a bunch of babies so we can live off welfare..or.... it's OK to have sex... if I get pregnant I can always get an abortion, or morning after pill. Moral fiber is what I am referring to.

Well, less sex dex, you need to back that claim up with some kind of evidence.  You only have limpball's and oreally's talking points for that one.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

dan foster

Quote from: Dexter Morgan on January 24, 2009, 12:10:22 AM

Regarding the Iraqis... do they have the right to come on American soil and attack us? You defend them but, in reality most of them would rather see us Americans dead. Every country in the world pretty much hates America. They hated Bush and they will grow to hate Obama as well. They hate everything we stand for here in America.

More from Rush Dex.  I did not defend the iraqis, so wtf?  The Iraqis only want to see the soldiers, kicking down their doors, dead.  The rest of the world hates us because of bush and most of that hate was about bush.  So, will they hate obama?  No.  The world doesn't hate us for what we stand for, they hated bush for what he stood for and they need to know that bush was a traitor to the US, its people and the Constitution.  If you don't realize that, then you need to move to traitor's row in TX with the SOB.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

dan foster

Quote from: Dexter Morgan on January 24, 2009, 12:26:12 AM
This is interesting... the part about being nice to everybody, and they'll like us. Here's a funny story....

Today, when I got to work a co worker came to me and said "Did you know the war on terror is over?" I said  "What makes you think that?" He says "Obama closed down Guantanamo". I almost fell over.  :spooked: I told him just because Obama closed that place didn't mean there is world peace LMAO!!! Then I went on to mention that there's a real good chance, there will be another attack on America at some point. At least, we haven't been attacked since 9/11. I don't feel nearly as safe now though.  :no:

The obama admin has not claimed the war on terror "was over".  Only morons that listen to Fox Noise would even think that.  Just more of the same stupidity that thinks bush kept us safe for the last 7 years, never acknowledging that his stay in iraq has bred 10,000 more bin ladens and guarantee's the war on terror will go on for the next century.  He, and his supporters, were mindless, clueless (especially about history), armchair generals who wouldn't know a war on terror even if they were in seat 2A on the first plane that hit the WTC.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

dan foster

You know, I think I will work this thread with the same stupid generalities you block heads keep throwing around about "the left". 

Such statements, like this one from Dex:

"I don't feel nearly as safe now though."

Should be met with:

The right wingers like Dex hate black people; always have and always will.  So, no matter what obama does, it won't be the right thing and "a lousy N*(&)R can never do the job required to keep us safe".  He can't be as smart as bush because he is black, but the funniest thing about that is that bush was actually retarded (I realize that is an insult to mentally handicapped people), but right wingers thought even his farts were "nectar from god".

So, you neocons go ahead and put back on your "hidden robes and hoods" and drive your favored party right into the dirt from where you all came. 
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Dexter Morgan

Dan,Dan, Dan.... what I've said here has really gotten your panties in a bunch.  :icon_twisted: You attack me because I don't agree with your views. I've always thought that you were reasonably intelligent but, the name calling and constant bashing has proven otherwise. It's senseless to argue with radicals such as yourself. You simply don't comprehend what you read. For some reason you twist stuff around, to make yourself look like a victim in every discussion. Just because somebody doesn't agree with you, doesn't necessarily mean they are wrong. Then again..... you seem to think you're a genius of some sort, and everybody else is beneath you in intelligence. With your line of thinking I have to ask... why you didn't run for president, Dan? What held you back from running? Now, because I didn't agree with what you've said... you label me a racist. How do you know I'm not black? Has that thought ever occurred to you. Dan? I don't believe that was a question when I signed on here at The Zone.
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dan foster

Quote from: Dexter Morgan on January 25, 2009, 09:08:08 PM
Dan,Dan, Dan.... what I've said here has really gotten your panties in a bunch.  :icon_twisted: You attack me because I don't agree with your views. I've always thought that you were reasonably intelligent but, the name calling and constant bashing has proven otherwise. It's senseless to argue with radicals such as yourself. You simply don't comprehend what you read. For some reason you twist stuff around, to make yourself look like a victim in every discussion. Just because somebody doesn't agree with you, doesn't necessarily mean they are wrong. Then again..... you seem to think you're a genius of some sort, and everybody else is beneath you in intelligence. With your line of thinking I have to ask... why you didn't run for president, Dan? What held you back from running? Now, because I didn't agree with what you've said... you label me a racist. How do you know I'm not black? Has that thought ever occurred to you. Dan? I don't believe that was a question when I signed on here at The Zone.

Its easy, even neocons like Cosby don't like black folks, and he is one.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Dexter Morgan

So now you you're sayin' I'm a black person that doesn't like black people?  :spooked: Give it up Dan.  :no:
All that I am... all that I ever was... is here in your perfect eyes.... they're all I can see

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Ghost of Jaco

Quote from: dan foster on January 24, 2009, 11:52:02 AM
You know, I think I will work this thread with the same stupid generalities you block heads keep throwing around about "the left". 

And that would be different from your usual manner of debate exactly how?
For example:
QuoteSo, you neocons go ahead and put back on your "hidden robes and hoods" and drive your favored party right into the dirt from where you all came. 
That sure reads like  a "stupid generalization" to me, as well as stereotyping, PLUS you don't know the definition of the word, "neocon". You use it out of context very frequently, making yourself look, to be specific, stupid.

Hey! I looked up "projection":
Here's what I found:
In psychology, psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes one's own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts and/or emotions to others. According to Wade, Tavris (2000) projection occurs when a person's own unacceptable or threatening feelings are repressed and then attributed to someone else...
See "dan foster" at The Unknown Zone for examples of this type of defense mechanism at work


You keep trying to bully your way through thread after thread and we keep proving you the fool that you are. Don't you ever get enough?
You are most entertaining, though, I must say. Some of the best laughs I get are reading your latest, "I hate religion, and if you don't hate it too then you are a neocon" diatribe. You come across as a caricature of a Socialist/Communist Archie Bunker, lol!.


"I contend that we are both religious. I just believe in one more god than you do. When you understand why you believe that a spontaneous "big bang" created all of time, space, and matter out of nothing, you will understand why I believe in a creator." -GoJ

Ghost of Jaco

Quote from: Dexter Morgan on January 25, 2009, 09:23:26 PM
So now you you're sayin' I'm a black person that doesn't like black people?  :spooked: Give it up Dan.  :no:

Your self-loathing is soooo obvious, Dex, lol!  :rolleyes:

You know it occurred to me that the Left is so excited about Obama being the "first black President" when he is no such thing in my book.
He is biracial, not black. Unless you subscribe to the racist notion that "even one drop of ni**er blood makes you a ni**er". Apparently the Left does just that. They probably also feel superior telling everyone "I voted for Obama! Some of my best friends are black people!".  :kissit:
"I contend that we are both religious. I just believe in one more god than you do. When you understand why you believe that a spontaneous "big bang" created all of time, space, and matter out of nothing, you will understand why I believe in a creator." -GoJ

Henry Hawk

Quote from: dan foster on January 25, 2009, 09:14:43 PM
Its easy, even neocons like Cosby don't like black folks, and he is one.

i am now convinced that you may be slightly ---retarded---- :yes:
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Palehorse

Quote from: Ghost of Jaco on January 26, 2009, 11:02:26 AM
. . . You come across as a caricature of a Socialist/Communist Archie Bunker, lol!.

I just spit Coke all over my desk!  :rotfl:
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