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January 05, 2009, 07:24:32 PM
Who decides who's life is precious and who's life isn't?

If everyone's life isn't precious, how is any life precious?

dan foster

#1
January 10, 2009, 01:06:27 AM
Quote from: Mom on January 05, 2009, 07:24:32 PM
Who decides who's life is precious and who's life isn't?

If everyone's life isn't precious, how is any life precious?

All life is precious.  This is it.

Who decides?  We all do.

If a huge asteroid is headed for earth, and will certainly wipe out all human life, do you think the asteroid made the call?
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Gardengirl

#2
January 14, 2009, 10:52:36 PM
I see liberals are pro-abortion yet will fight to the death to defend a serial killer, to keep him from the gas chamber. The child is innocent, has done no harm. Didn't ask to be born, but something is owed that life. To me, the killer has had his chance and misspent it, doesn't deserve another chance, so I don't care if he gets gassed. The baby's life represents hope. The killer's life represents death.
When people fear the government, that is called tyranny
When the government fears its people, that is called liberty

Sandy Eggo

#3
January 15, 2009, 12:19:33 AM
I'm a liberal and I'm not pro-abortion. I'm pro-choice. There's a difference.

There's also a difference between a clump of cells and a viable human.

Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

dan foster

#4
January 16, 2009, 10:10:01 PM
Quote from: Gardengirl on January 14, 2009, 10:52:36 PM
I see liberals are pro-abortion yet will fight to the death to defend a serial killer, to keep him from the gas chamber. The child is innocent, has done no harm. Didn't ask to be born, but something is owed that life. To me, the killer has had his chance and misspent it, doesn't deserve another chance, so I don't care if he gets gassed. The baby's life represents hope. The killer's life represents death.

So yet another sweeping generalization about those horrid, anti-american, pro-criminal, jesus-hating, baby-killing liberals.

You should thank a liberal for your having the right to vote, madam.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

followsthewolf

#5
January 17, 2009, 12:14:15 PM
She'll have to study that one to get it, Dan.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

kimmi

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January 17, 2009, 12:54:05 PM
Quote from: Gardengirl on January 14, 2009, 10:52:36 PM
I see liberals are pro-abortion yet will fight to the death to defend a serial killer, to keep him from the gas chamber. The child is innocent, has done no harm. Didn't ask to be born, but something is owed that life. To me, the killer has had his chance and misspent it, doesn't deserve another chance, so I don't care if he gets gassed. The baby's life represents hope. The killer's life represents death.

I find that there are more "gun toting" conservatives that would let loose on a human being just because it is their right to defend.  And then go to church on Sunday and denounce the baby killers in the world. 

Just an observation.
Take time to smell the roses.

Dexter Morgan

#7
January 17, 2009, 01:00:31 PM
Quote from: kimmi on January 17, 2009, 12:54:05 PM
I find that there are more "gun toting" conservatives that would let loose on a human being just because it is their right to defend.  And then go to church on Sunday and denounce the baby killers in the world. 

Just an observation.
But isn't there a difference between killing someone  defending one's self, than killing a defenseless child?  :think: It's a double edged sword.  :yes:
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Dexter Morgan

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January 17, 2009, 01:03:38 PM
Quote from: Gardengirl on January 14, 2009, 10:52:36 PM
I see liberals are pro-abortion yet will fight to the death to defend a serial killer, to keep him from the gas chamber. The child is innocent, has done no harm. Didn't ask to be born, but something is owed that life. To me, the killer has had his chance and misspent it, doesn't deserve another chance, so I don't care if he gets gassed. The baby's life represents hope. The killer's life represents death.
People who kill don't deserve to breathe the air the rest of us do. Eye for an eye and all that.  :yes: I seriously think we need to go back to earlier times, and handle crime like they use to. Punishment should fit the crime IMO.  :icon_twisted:
All that I am... all that I ever was... is here in your perfect eyes.... they're all I can see

~Chasing Cars by Snow Patrol~

Dexter Morgan

#9
January 17, 2009, 01:09:00 PM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 15, 2009, 12:19:33 AM
I'm a liberal and I'm not pro-abortion. I'm pro-choice. There's a difference.

There's also a difference between a clump of cells and a viable human.


I guess I don't understand the difference between pro-abortion and pro-choice?  :confused: This isn't sarcasm.... I really don't know the difference.  :confused: If a child is aborted it was the woman's choice to do so,right?  :confused: If a woman exercises that right than it's being pro-abortion?  :confused:
All that I am... all that I ever was... is here in your perfect eyes.... they're all I can see

~Chasing Cars by Snow Patrol~

awol

#10
January 17, 2009, 01:49:18 PM
willful ignorance.
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin

awol

#11
January 17, 2009, 02:44:41 PM
what shall we start telling the women who miscarry if conservatives get their way?  that they are guilty of manslaughter, or that their babies committed suicide?
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin

Sandy Eggo

#12
January 17, 2009, 07:55:36 PM
Quote from: Dexter Morgan on January 17, 2009, 01:09:00 PM
I guess I don't understand the difference between pro-abortion and pro-choice?  :confused: This isn't sarcasm.... I really don't know the difference.  :confused: If a child is aborted it was the woman's choice to do so,right?  :confused: If a woman exercises that right than it's being pro-abortion?  :confused:

I'm a pro woman's right to choose. Would I have an abortion? No. Would I advise someone to have one? No. For me personally, I'm against abortion. However, I would never assume to make that decision for someone else.

As for "An eye for an eye", in the bible, Jesus was against capitol punishment. :yes:
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

dan foster

#13
January 18, 2009, 04:21:16 PM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 17, 2009, 07:55:36 PM
I'm a pro woman's right to choose. Would I have an abortion? No. Would I advise someone to have one? No. For me personally, I'm against abortion. However, I would never assume to make that decision for someone else.

As for "An eye for an eye", in the bible, Jesus was against capitol punishment. :yes:
The really funny thing about the use of "an eye for an eye" is the hypocrisy.  The phrase comes from one of god's own commandments about abortion where if two men fight and cause a woman to abort, then the husband who lost the "fetus" gets paid a fine on the other guy.  There is nothing about not aborting a child, or that it is a murder under these circumstances.  Now, if the woman dies in the accidental abortion, then there is revenge on the perpetrator.  So, how is it the religious say abortion is murder when even the bible doesn't state that.  And DEXTER, wouldn't this be going back to the "way they did it in the old days"?  Better go back to the ways in the bible, huh.



    "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

    "And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth . . ."--Ex. 21:22-25



"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Dexter Morgan

#14
January 18, 2009, 04:58:58 PM
Quote from: awol on January 17, 2009, 02:44:41 PM
what shall we start telling the women who miscarry if conservatives get their way?  that they are guilty of manslaughter, or that their babies committed suicide?
Ummmm.... a miscarriage is involuntary. In most cases nobody wants to miscarry their child. When I lost my child it wasn't anybodies fault. It was just a horrible tragedy.
All that I am... all that I ever was... is here in your perfect eyes.... they're all I can see

~Chasing Cars by Snow Patrol~
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