Global Warming

[me]

Do you know who's behind that HH?

Oh boy, here we go with that "our scientists are smarter than your scientists" crap again. 

[Henry Hawk]

Do you know who's behind that HH?

Dr. S. Fred Singer

Dr. S. Fred Singer, an atmospheric and space physicist, is one of the world's most respected and widely published experts on climate. He is professor emeritus of environmental science at the University of Virginia. He directs the nonprofit Science and Environmental Policy Project (SEPP), which he founded in 1990 and incorporated in 1992 after retiring from the University of Virginia.

Dr. Singer served as professor of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA (1971-94); distinguished research professor at the Institute for Space Science and Technology, Gainesville, FL, where he was principal investigator for the Cosmic Dust/Orbital Debris Project (1989-94); chief scientist, U.S. Department of Transportation (1987- 89); vice chairman of the National Advisory Committee for Oceans and Atmosphere (NACOA) (1981-86); deputy assistant administrator for policy, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (1970-71); deputy assistant secretary for water quality and research, U.S. Department of the Interior (1967- 70); founding dean of the School of Environmental and Planetary Sciences, University of Miami (1964-67); first director of the National Weather Satellite Service (1962-64); and director of the Center for Atmospheric and Space Physics, University of Maryland (1953-62).

Dr. Singer did his undergraduate work in electrical engineering at Ohio State University and holds a Ph.D. in physics from Princeton University.

Dr. Singer has published more than 200 technical papers in peer-reviewed scientific journals, including EOS: Transactions of the AGU, Journal of Meteorology and Atmospheric Physics, Science, Nature, Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, Geophysical Research Letters, and International Journal of Climatology. His editorial essays and articles have appeared in Cosmos, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The New Republic, Newsweek, Journal of Commerce, The Washington Times, The Washington Post, and many other publications. His accomplishments have been featured in front-cover stories appearing in Time, Life, and U.S. News & World Report.

Dr. Singer is author, coauthor, or editor of more than a dozen books and monographs, including Free Market Energy (Universe Books, 1984), Global Climate Change (Paragon House, 1989), The Greenhouse Debate Continued: An Analysis and Critique of the IPCC Climate Assessment (ICS Press, 1992), Hot Talk Cold Science – Global Warming's Unfinished Debate (Independent Institute, 1997, 1999), Climate Policy – From Rio to Kyoto (Hoover Institution, 2000), Unstoppable Global Warming – Every 1,500 Years (Rowman & Littlefield, 2007, revised ed. 2008), and three volumes in the NIPCC series: Nature, Not Human Activity, Rules the Climate (Heartland Institute, 2008), Climate Change Reconsidered: The 2009 Report of the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change (Heartland Institute, 2009), and Climate Change Reconsidered: 2011 Interim Report (Heartland Institute, 2011).

Dr. Singer is an elected Fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), American Geophysical Union, American Physical Society, and American Institute for Aeronautics and Astronautics. He was elected to the AAAS Council and served on the Committee on Council Affairs, and as Section Secretary. In 1997, NASA presented Dr. Singer with a commendation and cash award "for important contributions to space research."

Dr. Singer has given hundreds of lectures and seminars on global warming, including to the science faculties at Stanford University, University of California-Berkeley, California Institute of Technology, State University of New York-Stony Brook, University of South Florida-St. Petersburg, University of Connecticut, University of Colorado, Imperial College-London, Copenhagen University, University of Rome, and Tel Aviv University. He has also given invited seminars at Brookhaven National Laboratory, the Max Planck Institute for Extra-Terrestrial Physics in Munich, the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology in Hamburg, and the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, and (2010) in New Delhi and Singapore.

Dr. Singer has been a pioneer in many ways. At the Applied Physics Laboratory of Johns Hopkins University, he participated in the first experiments using high-altitude research rockets, measuring the energy spectrum of primary cosmic rays and the distribution of stratospheric ozone; he is generally credited with the discovery of the equatorial electrojet current flowing in the ionosphere. In academic science during the 1950s, he published the first studies on subatomic particles trapped in the Earth's magnetic field – radiation belts, later discovered by James Van Allen.

Dr. Singer was the first to make the correct calculations for using atomic clocks in orbit, contributing to the verification of Einstein's General Theory of Relativity, and now essential in the GPS system of satellite navigation. He also designed satellites and instrumentation for remote sensing of the atmosphere and received a White House Presidential Commendation for this work.

In 1971, Dr. Singer calculated the anthropogenic contribution to atmospheric methane, an important greenhouse gas. He also predicted that methane, once reaching the stratosphere, would transform into water vapor, which could then deplete stratospheric ozone. A few years later, methane levels were indeed found to be rising, and the increase in stratospheric water vapor was confirmed in 1995.

Dr. Craig D. Idso

Dr. Craig D. Idso is the founder, former president, and currently chairman of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change. The Center was founded in 1998 as a non-profit public charity dedicated to discovering and disseminating scientific information pertaining to the effects of atmospheric carbon dioxide enrichment on climate and the biosphere. The Center produces a weekly online newsletter and maintains a massive online collection of editorials on and reviews of peer-reviewed scientific journal articles relating to global climate change.

Dr. Idso's research has appeared many times in peer-reviewed journals, including Geophysical Research Letters, Energy & Environment, Atmospheric Environment, Technology, The Quarterly Review of Biology, Journal of Climate, Environmental and Experimental Botany, Physical Geography, and the Journal of the Arizona-Nevada Academy of Science.

Dr. Idso is the author or coauthor of several books, including CO2, Global Warming and Species Extinctions (Vales Lake Publishing, LLC, 2009), CO2, Global Warming and Coral Reefs (Vales Lake Publishing, LLC, 2009); Enhanced or Impaired? Human Health in a CO2-Enriched Warmer World (Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, 2003); and The Specter of Species Extinction: Will Global Warming Decimate Earth's Biosphere? (George C. Marshall Institute, 2003). He contributed chapters to Critical Topics in Global Warming (McKitrick, R. (Ed.), Fraser Institute, 2009) and Encyclopedia of Soil Science (Marcel Dekker, 2002).

Dr. Idso received a B.S. in Geography from Arizona State University, an M.S. in Agronomy from the University of Nebraska – Lincoln, and a Ph.D. in Geography from Arizona State University, where he also studied as one of a small group of University Graduate Scholars. He was a faculty researcher in the Office of Climatology at Arizona State University and has lectured in Meteorology at Arizona State University.

Dr. Robert M. Carter

Dr. Robert M. Carter is a palaeontologist, stratigrapher, marine geologist and environmental scientist with more than 30 years professional experience, and holds degrees from the University of Otago (New Zealand) and the University of Cambridge (England). He has held tenured academic staff positions at the University of Otago (Dunedin) and James Cook University (Townsville), where he was Professor and Head of School of Earth Sciences between 1981 and 1999.

Dr. Carter has served as Chair of the Earth Sciences Discipline Panel of the Australian Research Council, Chair of the national Marine Science and Technologies Committee, Director of the Australian Office of the Ocean Drilling Program, and Co-Chief Scientist on ODP Leg 181 (Southwest Pacific Gateways).

Dr. Carter contributes regularly to public education and debate on scientific issues which relate to his areas of knowledge. His public commentaries draw on his knowledge of the scientific literature and a personal publication list of more than 100 papers in international science journals.

Dr. Carter's current research on climate change, sea-level change and stratigraphy is based on field studies of Cenozoic sediments (last 65 million years) from the Southwest Pacific region, especially the Great Barrier Reef and New Zealand.

Dr. Carter has acted as an expert witness on climate change before the U.S. Senate Committee of Environment & Public Works, the Australian and N.Z. parliamentary Select Committees into emissions trading and in a meeting in parliament house, Stockholm. He was also a primary science witness in the Hayes Windfarm Environment Court case in New Zealand, and in the U.K. High Court case of Dimmock v. H.M.'s Secretary of State for Education, the 2007 judgement which identified nine major scientific errors in Mr. Al Gore's film An Inconvenient Truth.

Dr. Carter's research has been supported by grants from competitive public research agencies, especially the Australian Research Council (ARC). He receives no research funding from special interest organizations such as environmental groups, energy companies or government departments.

[Locutus]

Oh boy, here we go with that "our scientists are smarter than your scientists" crap again. 

Yes, in this case I believe legitimate scientists are better than those paid scientists that came up with that garbage.  Did you even bother to  look up who is behind that tripe?  Let me guess, you were too lazy to even bother with that much effort.

Let me clue you in.  The same organization that backed that crap study HH produced is the same agency that said second hand cigarette smoke isn't damaging to an individual's health a few years back.    Now does that give you any clue as to what sort of "scientists" produced that garbage than Henry posted?

You two need to take a couple of dollars out of your pocket and go buy yourselves a clue. 

[Exterminator]

You two need to take a couple of dollars out of your pocket and go buy yourselves a clue.

They don't want a clue and they don't want to acknowledge that which is obvious to any thinking person.

[Henry Hawk]

You think Government sponsored scientist are better than private paid scientist?  right?  Because the UN isn't corrupt is it? 

There are 50 international scientists involved in this study....

It becomes a pissing match now....

Are you implying that these scientist are corrupt?  That THERE data is wrong?

[Locutus]

50 scientists?

What we're saying is that the IPCC is supported by hundreds of scientists and think tanks around the world.  The IPCC's assessments typically contain over 500 lead authors and over 2,000 expert reviewers from more than 100 participating nations.  These authors and reviewers are unpaid volunteers and are required to show consideration to theories that differ from conventional wisdom.

The backers of the scientists in your study pay them to pick holes in widely supported climatological science.  Some of the contributors to that backers of that study include Exxon Mobile and the American Petroleum Institute. 

Can't you see the difference there?

[Henry Hawk]

Yep, I can see your point, at least your logic.  But are you saying that you have 100% confidence in a UN backed program that CLEARLY has a political agenda at stake?  We know for a FACT that the UN HAS indeed been involved in cover-ups and corruption.

[Locutus]

I'm saying I have more confidence in over 500 unpaid authors, and over 2,000 unpaid reviewers who represent over 100 countries around the globe a lot more than 50 paid 'scientists' backed by special interests including the petroleum industry.

For Christ sakes HH, the same group that backs these guys backed 'scientists' that said second hand smoke wasn't dangerous a few years ago.  Do you believe that too?  Want to live in a home or work in an office on a daily basis and be subjected to all of that second hand smoke that they say won't cause you any harm?

[me]

I'm saying I have more confidence in over 500 unpaid authors, and over 2,000 unpaid reviewers who represent over 100 countries around the globe a lot more than 50 paid 'scientists' backed by special interests including the petroleum industry.

For Christ sakes HH, the same group that backs these guys backed 'scientists' that said second hand smoke wasn't dangerous a few years ago.  Do you believe that too?  Want to live in a home or work in an office on a daily basis and be subjected to all of that second hand smoke that they say won't cause you any harm?

So you think those people did that out of the kindness of their hearts and were paid nothing? 

[Locutus]

So you think those people did that out of the kindness of their hearts and were paid nothing? 

They don't get paid for their contributions to the IPCC.  Go read about it and learn something.

That said, they have to eat, so obviously someone is paying them.  Who do you suppose pays them? 

Are you really that simpleminded?

[me]

They don't get paid for their contributions to the IPCC.  Go read about it and learn something.

That said, they have to eat, so obviously someone is paying them.  Who do you suppose pays them? 

Are you really that simpleminded?

Doesn't matter who pays them the IPCC is going to look for people who will come up with findings that agree with the outcome they want.  As for the contributors they get that 15min of fame, give speeches for which they get paid, and sell lots of books.

[Locutus]

Doesn't matter who pays them the IPCC is going to look for people who will come up with findings that agree with the outcome they want.  As for the contributors they get that 15min of fame, give speeches for which they get paid, and sell lots of books.

You're totally clueless.   Read about the mission and function of the IPCC before you go spewing off on something you don't know anything about. 

[Locutus]

Start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental_Panel_on_Climate_Change

[me]

Start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergovernmental_Panel_on_Climate_Change

Like I said.....and if Rajendra K. Pachauri, the current chairperson, has his way we'll all be vegetarians since he thinks eating meat harms the environment because of the animals. 

He is a strict vegetarian, partly due to his beliefs as a Hindu, and partly because of the impact of meat-production on the environment.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajendra_K._Pachauri

Sorry but I chose to go with the people who explained the changes with fact, being past occurrences of strange weather patterns, not projections based on chosen data plugged into a computer which doesn't figure in variables. 

[Palehorse]