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Bo D

Quote from: me on August 15, 2013, 02:52:07 PM
HH don't bother to go back to the 70's and early to mid 80's for proof 'cause they'll just discount it anyway no matter where it comes from.  I just remember it was terribly cold and we had some super bad winters with a lot of snow for a period of time there.  Probably due to global warming though.   :wink:

Well, well ... The village idiot comes close to getting it right but doesn't even realize it.

Not that she will understand this, but it's the simplest explanation I could find.

http://curiosity.discovery.com/question/global-warming-cause-ice-age

Ocean currents are partially responsible for distributing heat around the Earth. The Gulf Stream, for example, is a current that directs warm water to northern Europe from the Gulf of Mexico. By doing so, the Gulf Stream makes temperatures in Great Britain and the rest of northwestern Europe warmer than they otherwise would be. As global temperatures rise, Arctic ice melts and massive amounts of fresh water pour into the North Atlantic and slow the Gulf Stream down. By slowing or stopping this ocean current, global warming actually would cool Europe down dramatically. If other ocean currents were disrupted, the entire planet could experience the same cooling effect and cause an ice age.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

me

Nothing like coverin' yer ass by saying one would cause the other just in case.   :wink:
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Bo D

Quote from: me on August 15, 2013, 05:01:22 PM
Nothing like coverin' yer ass by saying one would cause the other just in case.   :wink:

If you were capable of keeping up, you would know that I have pointed this out several times before. And it isn't me saying that.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Locutus

Quote from: me on August 15, 2013, 05:01:22 PM
Nothing like coverin' yer ass by saying one would cause the other just in case.   :wink:

It's not a CYA.  It's science.  Read and learn something for a change.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Bo D on August 15, 2013, 05:06:04 PM
If you were capable of keeping up, you would know that I have pointed this out several times before. And it isn't me saying that.
Not everything I post like that is about or to you.  I was speaking in general, meaning to the article and those who wrote it.  To be more specific, those who provided the info they based the article on. 
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Palehorse

UN panel say it is 95% certain global warming is driven by humans.
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me

Quote from: Palehorse on August 20, 2013, 01:50:49 PM
UN panel say it is 95% certain global warming is driven by humans.
:rolleyes:
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Palehorse

(CNN) -- Scientists are more convinced that human activity is behind the increase in global temperatures since the 1950s, which has boosted sea levels and the odds of extreme storms, according to a leaked draft of an upcoming U.N. report.
"It is extremely likely that human influence on climate caused more than half of the observed increase in global average surface temperature from 1951 to 2010," according to a summary of the draft obtained by CNN. "There is high confidence that this has warmed the ocean, melted snow and ice, raised global mean sea level and changed some climate extremes in the second half of the 20th century."
Those conclusions come from the upcoming report of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the fifth in a series of multiyear reports seen as a benchmark on the subject. The panel's last report, in 2007, concluded that it was 90% certain that rising temperatures were due to human activity; the new draft raises that figure to 95%.
. . .

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/20/world/un-climate/index.html?iref=allsearch

Boo-yah!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

libby

Quote from: Palehorse on August 20, 2013, 07:09:59 PM
(CNN) -- Scientists are more convinced that human activity is behind the increase in global temperatures since the 1950s, which has boosted sea levels and the odds of extreme storms, according to a leaked draft of an upcoming U.N. report.
"It is extremely likely that human influence on climate caused more than half of the observed increase in global average surface temperature from 1951 to 2010," according to a summary of the draft obtained by CNN. "There is high confidence that this has warmed the ocean, melted snow and ice, raised global mean sea level and changed some climate extremes in the second half of the 20th century."
Those conclusions come from the upcoming report of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the fifth in a series of multiyear reports seen as a benchmark on the subject. The panel's last report, in 2007, concluded that it was 90% certain that rising temperatures were due to human activity; the new draft raises that figure to 95%.
. . .

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/20/world/un-climate/index.html?iref=allsearch

Boo-yah!
:spooked: They were talking about the upcoming report on the Today Show yesterday. Ann Curry, on special assignment in the Arctic, also referred to it. Truly scary.
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Locutus

Quote from: libby on August 21, 2013, 05:07:38 PM
:spooked: They were talking about the upcoming report on the Today Show yesterday. Ann Curry, on special assignment in the Arctic, also referred to it. Truly scary.

Apparently not scary to dummies.  ----v

Quote from: me on August 20, 2013, 04:53:03 PM
:rolleyes:

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Locutus on August 21, 2013, 08:44:16 PM
Apparently not scary to dummies.  ----v
The scary part is that ya'll fall for this crap and are willing to go to any costs to put into force something that will make very little difference in what is also normal revolution and will only slow it down.  You cannot control Mother Nature no matter how hard you try.  The unintended consequences just aren't worth the cost.  Recycling, and sensible use of what we have will do more than anything else toward helping things not doing things like corn alcohol, which was shown to pollute more than gas, or over insulating and closing off houses and buildings to the point they aren't healthy because the chemicals released by furnishing and materials stay confined.  Then there's the elec cars which are going to be useless if the solar batteries aren't practical and we can't use coal to generate electricity.  Have you never heard of a cure causing more problems than the disease?
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Exterminator

You can't fix stupid.   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

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me

Quote from: Exterminator on August 22, 2013, 01:58:25 PM
You can't fix stupid.   :rolleyes:
I won't give up on you though Ex.  I'm sure, given time, we'll be able to upgrad you to at least normal.   :wink:
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Palehorse

Quote from: me on August 21, 2013, 09:28:23 PM
The scary part is that ya'll fall for this crap. . .

The 28th driest summer in history for this area, and that is crap? Really? We are over 3" down surrounding average rainfall totals as well. . .

But don't let little things like validated science and fact bother you!  :rolleyes:
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Quote from: Palehorse on August 22, 2013, 05:55:56 PM
The 28th driest summer in history for this area, and that is crap? Really? We are over 3" down surrounding average rainfall totals as well. . .

But don't let little things like validated science and fact bother you!  :rolleyes:
Do you expect that the weather should be the same each year and not vary?  There always has been and always will be variations in the weather, some more drastic than others, and there is very little we can do about the earth aging and changing.  We need to keep things cleaner, recycle and quit being a throw away society, keep the forests properly cut so wildfires can be fought easier, (tree huggers kiss off), and other things of that nature which would be good for the environment and not cause unintended (bad) consequences like I mentioned a few posts back.  Everyone talks about using less fuel for cars and such but have you stopped to think about how many petroleum based products we use now days?  Look around your own home and even at your car body.  Rather than fix something like people used to it's just tossed out and they go get a new one.  Things aren't even made to last now like they used to be and that's a shame.  How much of it can even be recycled?  How long does it take plastic to decompose in a landfill?  And how brilliant was it to replace harmless light bulbs with something that is supposed to be much better, they aren't, that you have to wear gloves and a mask to clean them up and dispose of them in an environmentally safe way, they can't be thrown in the trash, because of what they contain.   To get safe ones you have to pay through the nose and they don't last a bit longer than a regular good brand, less expensive, safe bulb.  Not to mention you need more of them to get the same amount of light as a regular bulb.  How many people are actually going to take the time to transport a broken bulb to a safe disposal place?  Do you? Unintended consequence, you save 3cents pr year in elec and harm the environment worse than if the old standard bulb were still used.  Think further into some of this crap for Pete's sake.
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