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Sandy Eggo

Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 08, 2010, 01:43:00 PM


http://www.heritage.org/research/factsheets/cap-and-trade-is-a-tax-and-its-a-great-big-one

Your article doesn't mention:

QuoteCap and trade was first tried on a significant scale 20 years ago under the first Bush administration as a way to address the problem of airborne sulfur dioxide pollution — widely known as acid rain — from coal-burning power plants in the Eastern United States. A limit was imposed on emissions  from the plants, and utilities were allowed to buy and sell permits to comply. Today it is considered one of the most effective environmental initiatives.

^ Apparently we've needed leadership for quite a while

It also didn't mention this:

QuoteWhy did cap and trade die? The short answer is that it was done in by the weak economy, the Wall Street meltdown, determined industry opposition and its own complexity. The idea began as a middle-of-the-road Republican plan to unleash the market to reduce power plant pollution and spur innovation. But when lawmakers tried to apply the concept to the far more pervasive problem of carbon dioxide emissions, it ran into gale-force opposition from the oil industry, conservative groups that portrayed it as an economy-killing tax and lawmakers terrified that it would become a bonanza for Wall Street traders and Enron-style manipulators.

^ Special interests...huh...'magine that...

QuoteMr. Kerry's partner in promoting global warming legislation, Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, pronounced economywide cap and trade dead last month  and has since been working with Mr. Kerry to try to patch together a bill that satisfies the diverse economic, regional and ideological interests of the Senate.

That plan, still being written, will include a cap on greenhouse gas emissions only for utilities, at least at first, with other industries phased in perhaps years later. It is also said to include a modest tax on gasoline, diesel fuel and aviation fuel, accompanied by new incentives for oil and gas drilling, nuclear power plant construction, carbon capture and storage, and renewable energy sources like wind and solar.

Looks like solutions are still being considered. Isn't that what you asked for?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/26/science/earth/26climate.html
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Lester Sasquatch

I know that this will open up a can of worms but one problem I see is couples having more kids than they can possibly afford to care for. It seems that the lower a family's income level is, the more kids they have. Now I am sure there are exceptions but not many. I know my friend Troll will accuse me of being a communist but I think China has the right idea by limiting the number of children a couple can have. Folks, rights are one thing but in the name of humanity something needs to be done before this planet is destroyed. The days of having a gaggle of kids to provide free labor on the farm is long gone, at least in the USA. Think of how much less carbon dioxide would be emitted if families stopped at two kids. I read in the paper about a man who has 23 kids by 9 different women and owes over half a million dollars in child support. He has no job, probably doesn't have enough energy to work after a typical night, and had 9 children in 3 years with 3 women. Bigfoots have kept our population in check, why cant humans?
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The Troll

Quote from: Lester Sasquatch on October 08, 2010, 05:32:33 PM
I know that this will open up a can of worms but one problem I see is couples having more kids than they can possibly afford to care for. It seems that the lower a family's income level is, the more kids they have. Now I am sure there are exceptions but not many. I know my friend Troll will accuse me of being a communist but I think China has the right idea by limiting the number of children a couple can have. Folks, rights are one thing but in the name of humanity something needs to be done before this planet is destroyed. The days of having a gaggle of kids to provide free labor on the farm is long gone, at least in the USA. Think of how much less carbon dioxide would be emitted if families stopped at two kids. I read in the paper about a man who has 23 kids by 9 different women and owes over half a million dollars in child support. He has no job, probably doesn't have enough energy to work after a typical night, and had 9 children in 3 years with 3 women. Bigfoots have kept our population in check, why cant humans?

  Some times I think they should go back to doing somethings the old way.  Like keeping the old Tom Cat home and out of trouble.  A boot and a sharp knife.  Quick and simple and it works.   :biggrin:

Palehorse

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The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on October 10, 2010, 10:37:25 AM
:spooked:

  A few week back on one of the judge shows and there are several.  This guy was brought in of a paternity suit to see if this 9Th kid was his.  He was 23 and had 8 kids by 8 women.  Unemployed.  When he was by the judge why he had some many children  He shrugged his shoulders and with a slacked jaw look and answer said, " I don't know, man."  Which the judge stood and said, "don't call me man!''  It was his making 9 kids.  Now here is where the boot and the sharp knife.  No more kids, ever.

Palehorse

(CNN) -- Wanted: Patient person. Physically fit, with basic knowledge of biology. Able to take pictures.
Job: Find Bigfoot.
Scientists in China's Hubei Province have announced they are looking for additional members for its special team tasked with tracking down the creature.
The Hubei Wild Man Research Association (HWMRA) is recruiting researchers internationally to join the group's search in the Shennongjia forest region, according to state-run news agency Xinhua. . .


http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/10/09/china.bigfoot.search/index.html?hpt=T2

Uhh. . . Lester. . . :spooked:
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Lester Sasquatch

That must be a misprint, Bigfoot is native only to north America. It is the Yeti they are looking for. The Yeti is a far distant cousin, the black sheep of the family. They have a terrible personal hygiene routine and are extremely rude. Due to their diet the Yeti suffers from chronic flatulence and, in their leisure time, entertain themselves by having farting contests. One of their favorite pastimes is counting coup on humans where they wait until their target is asleep around the fire, squat right over the person's face, and rip a nasty fart. Bigfoot would never be so crude. The Yeti can be seen sitting around in their cave picking at the dingleberries hanging off their butts, something a Bigfoot would never do because he uses leaves to wipe himself after defecating.

When the Bigfoot needs to raise a little cash, we sell a plaster cast of our footprints or maybe a tuft of hair on eBay. The disgusting Yeti will list one of their turds in an auction, laughing about how stupid humans are amongst themselves. A Bigfoot would never stoop to that level. The Bigfoot maintains a high level of order and keeps his cave clean and neat. The Yeti is a hoarder of trash and his cave will look like a garbage dump. Bigfoot lives in harmony with the animals of the forest, the Yeti will kill for sport and the animals nearby live in constant fear.

Their is a big difference in the political structure of the Yeti compared to the Bigfoot. The Yeti chooses a leader by fighting, the Bigfoot tries to pick the wisest to lead them by confidential vote. The Bigfoot will sacrifice his own life to save his family, the cowardly Yeti will sacrifice his family for his own safety. So there are many differences between Bigfoot and Yeti. Palehorse I hope you can now see why Bigfoot hates to be compared to his cousin just because we both have large feet.
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Palehorse

"July was the hottest month for Indianapolis since 1936. With an average high of 82 degrees July was the second warmest July on record and we only had .42" of rain. That set the record for the driest July ever. We'll tie the record of 19 consecutive days above 90 on Thursday." - Chris Wright - WTHR

No. . . global warming is a load of hooey!  :rolleyes:
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

Crickets...guess they're all busy with the Brickyard.   :biggrin:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Ya'll never give up do ya?  This is not a global warming sign it is a cycle.   :rolleyes:  El Nino, sun spots...get it...no global warming.
Trump 2020

The Troll

Quote from: me on August 01, 2011, 03:24:03 AM
Ya'll never give up do ya?  This is not a global warming sign it is a cycle.   :rolleyes:  El Nino, sun spots...get it...no global warming.

  Yep, you're not one of the brightest bulbs in the pack or the tightly wound one either.  Just pull your string and hear Glen Beck talk. :doh: :jester:

Exterminator

Quote from: me on August 01, 2011, 03:24:03 AM
Ya'll never give up do ya?  This is not a global warming sign it is a cycle.   :rolleyes:  El Nino, sun spots...get it...no global warming.

Thank you for your educated, well-informed commentary.  Go back to sleep folks, nothing to worry about!  What an idiot...
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Ya, and if we were going through a cool period you'd say it was caused by global warming too.  It's summer and it's gonna be hot and some summers are warmer than others.  Get it???  Of course you don't 'cause you've got your nose too far up Gore's butt and those who want to control and tax us silly in the name of "protecting" us from something that doesn't exist.
Trump 2020

Exterminator

I know that it's difficult for a pea-brain like you to imagine how big the world is beyond your trailer and how, yes, global warming could, in fact, for example, make winters colder but it can.  You see, as the temperature of the earth increases and the polar ice caps melt, that cool water follows the ocean currents and some of it ends up off the coast of the Pacific Northwest.  From there, prevailing winds carry the cooler air resulting from those cooler waters over the rest of the country.  This is not hyperbole, it is fact although I can understand how someone who didn't even know there were two wars going on when Obama was elected might be ignorant of such details.

The ten warmest years on record are as follows: 2005, 2010, 1998, 2003, 2002, 2006, 2009, 2007, 2004 and 2001, in that order.  Are you truthfully so dim-witted that you can't see such an obvious trend?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Quote from: me on August 01, 2011, 03:24:03 AM
Ya'll never give up do ya?  This is not a global warming sign it is a cycle.   :rolleyes:  El Nino, sun spots...get it...no global warming.

Postcards from Denial!
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville