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Started by DannyBoy, January 03, 2009, 10:08:29 AM

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Henry Hawk

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20081230165231.aspx
'Cow Tax' Could Charge $175 per Dairy Cow to Curb Greenhouse Gases

This is what 'erks' me with the whole "global warming" scare tactics enduced by the Al Gore crowd.......

It is ALL about the money.....NOT what is best for this earth....or the people that live here. :mad:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: kimmi on January 03, 2009, 03:33:07 PM
Ice caps and glaciers are melting and not regenerating.  Where will this water go?  There is photographic proof of this.  You can't deny that weather phenomenon has become extreme - hurricanes, tornadoes, typhoons, drought, etc...  This doesn't just happen on its own.  

And how about a happy medium?  Even if you don't believe in Global Warming as it has been stated, can one not believe that we need to take care of our planet, support the life that lives here, and preserve it for future generations?  

I think EVERYBODY is in favor of taking care of our planet....but we cannot TAX our way into fixing it...


Sea Ice Ends Year at Same Level as 1979  http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=13834

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

awol

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 05, 2009, 10:26:16 AM
I think EVERYBODY is in favor of taking care of our planet....but we cannot TAX our way into fixing it...


sounds good.  has a nice ring to it.  might even be true (maybe not).  but it has no real substance.  just another sound bite from the republican machine that you're supposed to repeat.

got any idea what will "fix" it?
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin

Henry Hawk

encourage entrepreneurs and scientist to continue to develop better and more efficient technologies..........heck, we have already come a long ways...........I just think the whole carbon tax, gas tax, cow tax, Kyoto Protocol to just name a few...BAD IDEAS, are the wrong way to handle the problem...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

awol

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 05, 2009, 01:06:38 PM
encourage entrepreneurs and scientist to continue to develop better and more efficient technologies..........

what form should that "encouragement" take?
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin

Henry Hawk

Quote from: awol on January 05, 2009, 02:55:35 PM
what form should that "encouragement" take?

I think it should be, to allow private investors to invest it's money under a tax shelter....such as allow money to be given to R&D, and NOT having it's return on it's investment taxed to death.....let Americans use it ingenuity and capitalize on developing better and more efficient energies...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

awol

in other words: monetary.

so where is all this money going to come from?
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin

Henry Hawk

Quote from: awol on January 05, 2009, 04:02:52 PM
in other words: monetary.

so where is all this money going to come from?

I said...PRIVATE..investors....read my post again...I THOUGHT, I explained it pretty well.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 05, 2009, 03:09:26 PM
I think it should be, to allow private investors to invest it's money under a tax shelter....such as allow money to be given to R&D, and NOT having it's return on it's investment taxed to death.....let Americans use it ingenuity and capitalize on developing better and more efficient energies...

But isn't that some of the very same methodology that brought about the current debacle surrounding big oil? They file exploration under R & D, along with anything else they can, to get out of paying taxes on their profits. . .

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me

How ever you slice it it's ridiculous to tax a bodily function whether it be a cows or ours which could possibly happen if they keep it up.
Trump 2020

awol

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 05, 2009, 04:07:06 PM
I said...PRIVATE..investors....read my post again...I THOUGHT, I explained it pretty well.

ok, i have to explain further:  this magic investor money, which would have been taxed, now goes to a non-taxable investment -- creating a larger tax deficit.  so where does the money come from to fill that hole?
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin

Palehorse

Quote from: me on January 05, 2009, 06:15:47 PM
How ever you slice it it's ridiculous to tax a bodily function whether it be a cows or ours which could possibly happen if they keep it up.

When they start taxing my personal flatulation I'm getting an industrial butt plug!  :biggrin:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

awol

Quote from: Palehorse on January 05, 2009, 07:33:13 PM
When they start taxing my personal flatulation I'm getting an industrial butt plug!  :biggrin:

my vote for most disturbing visual of the year.  *so far.
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin

Palehorse

Quote from: awol on January 05, 2009, 07:48:57 PM
my vote for most disturbing visual of the year.  *so far.

Happy to be of service so early in the new year!  :biggrin:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

kimmi

Heck no!  Don't plug!  If you have to pay for it, let it rip!!!!  :biggrin:
Take time to smell the roses.