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Started by Locutus, March 14, 2016, 07:22:59 PM

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Anne

Quote from: Locutus on March 18, 2016, 07:53:40 PM
I don't think Secretary Clinton told them it was caused by a video either.  While the initial theory may have been that it was related to the video, that story quickly changed, even from the administration.  If you recall - and I'm not sure you were on during that time period - there were riots spreading in the Middle East in response to a film about Islam when the attack on the embassy happened. 

We had a thread discussing it somewhere around here.  Maybe I'll try and find it later.

I was on here then and I remember the discussion. It was several days before the administration changed their opinion. So you believe that all of the families she spoke to are lying about what she said to them.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Locutus

Quote from: Anne on March 18, 2016, 08:00:50 PM
I was on here then and I remember the discussion. It was several days before the administration changed their opinion. So you believe that all of the families she spoke to are lying about what she said to them.

I haven't seen what any of the families have said about those events, so I can't speak to that.  Do you have a link?
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Palehorse

Quote from: Anne on March 18, 2016, 07:36:51 PM
But it doesn't give any assessment of either, it is nothing more than a highly edited biography.

It is an account of someones life written by someone else. The writer chooses the content, not the reader.
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Palehorse

Quote from: Anne on March 18, 2016, 08:00:50 PM
I was on here then and I remember the discussion. It was several days before the administration changed their opinion. So you believe that all of the families she spoke to are lying about what she said to them.

A clear picture of whether there had been protests in Benghazi didn't come together until Sept. 15, a day after Clinton met with the families, according to multiple Senate investigation reports. That is a fact.

One of the things that has come of this witch hunt initiative surrounding Hillary's e-mail is the fact she e-mailed her daughter, Chelsea, that night, telling her the attack seemed to have been committed by an al-Qaida-like group.  At the time Ansar al-Sharia, an al-Qaida affiliated group, took responsibility for the attack; which they subsequently retracted later.

The New York Times wrote the day of the attack that information available to the White House at the time suggested there were protests in Benghazi spurred by those in Cairo, and Islamic extremists took advantage of the situation and began the attack. (Subsequently proven false surrounding protests having taken place).

There are as many family members stating Hillary never mentioned any video within their private, unrecorded/documented meetings with her; emotionally charged meetings within which the bereaved were sobbing and understandably upset. It is categorically proven fact that human beings under great duress are highly unreliable witnesses surrounding the recollection of events and statements transpiring during such periods.

You really need to get a grip and recalibrate yourself surrounding fact and propaganda driven conjecture; the latter being the basis for all of this flotsam surrounding Hillary Clinton and Benghazi. Law enforcement have stated several times that the e-mail investigation(s) have nothing to do with Clinton, and she is suspected of absolutely no wrong doing. Yet, we find the voracious political piggies slopping the troughs of ignorance and the emotionally weak piglets lapping it up. Moreover, we have had at least one member of that group doing the slopping making a public admission that all of this has been (is) nothing more than an elaborate effort to discredit Clinton and undermine her candidacy for POTUS.

Bottom line, Benghazi was a tragedy and murder of Americans on American soil, committed by terrorists. Clinton had nothing to do with it, but the result has been that the GOP has written it into their vast book of dirty tricks with which to slander and sully the reputation of a qualified candidate for the office of POTUS, because they fear another 4-8 year exile from the helm of this nation.

http://www.state.gov/secretary/20092013clinton/rm/2012/09/197780.htm

3 days post the attack, Clinton made remarks at the Transfer of remains of the victims of the Benghazi attack at Andrews AFB 14SEPT2012. She stated, (in part):

. . .In the days since the attack, so many Libyans – including the Ambassador from Libya to the United States, who is with us today – have expressed their sorrow and solidarity. One young woman, her head covered and her eyes haunted with sadness, held up a handwritten sign that said "Thugs and killers don't represent Benghazi nor Islam." The President of the Palestinian Authority, who worked closely with Chris when he served in Jerusalem, sent me a letter remembering his energy and integrity, and deploring – and I quote – "an act of ugly terror." Many others from across the Middle East and North Africa have offered similar sentiments.

This has been a difficult week for the State Department and for our country. We've seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We've seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with. It is hard for the American people to make sense of that because it is senseless, and it is totally unacceptable. . .


Present that day were the Chaplain, the President, the Vice President, Secretary Panetta, Ambassador Rice, Secretary Powell and Mrs. Powell, family members of the four victims, and members of the State Department family.

Again, an emotionally charged environment within which the bereaved are in shock and emotionally unstable; perhaps even medicated. Within the statement Clinton mentions said video as a example of the violence being directed toward this nation world-wide. She makes no inference of it being a cause, but rather a tool being utilized to incite anger and hatred toward this nation around the world. But an emotionally upset individual could easily hear something else entirely, or remember something that was never said.

Whether Clinton met with the families before or after her remarks, the meetings occurred the same day as her statement was made at the transfer of remains. Seems fairly clear to me that these claims are simply nothing more than false recollections conceived under duress.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

libby

All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Anne

I could accept that if it were just one family, but not more.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Exterminator

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The Troll

 

  Yep, I lost $63,000 in my retirement account under George W. Bush and the Republican party.   :yes: :mad:  Since Obama and the Democrats have been in, I have got my money back and a little more.   :yes: :biggrin:  Sure do love Obama and the Democrats.   O0 :love3: :bliss: :bliss: :trustme:

Bo D

Quote from: The Troll on March 21, 2016, 08:18:48 PM
 

  Yep, I lost $63,000 in my retirement account under George W. Bush and the Republican party.   :yes: :mad:  Since Obama and the Democrats have been in, I have got my money back and a little more.   :yes: :biggrin:  Sure do love Obama and the Democrats.   O0 :love3: :bliss: :bliss: :trustme:

Same here, Troll!
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