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Gods....Free Will....

Started by Henry Hawk, March 11, 2008, 04:48:17 PM

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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Y on May 22, 2008, 06:03:37 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 02, 2008, 08:47:01 AM
it is just not religion that makes people react to other peoples actions in fearful ways...........and I still stand firm...that the people who understand Christianity the way Jesus meant it to be.........ARE much better for this world...if everyone lived according to Jesus' teachings, there would be no problems in this world............that is where Heaven comes to play.

"The way 'jesus' meant it to be"? 

Who decides that, Henry?  You?  Then it's no more than your idiosyncratic and subjective opinion. 

Your church?  Your religious sect?  Their writers and theologians?  Then you selectively and subjectively chose to accept what they determine to be true over other churches, sects, their writers and theologians, and other religions.

The OT or NT 'writers'?  Hardly a perfect factual record.

Jesus?  Not only is his existence unsubstantiated by the historical record, but had he existed he is dead and left no existent writings.


I don't have a problem with how you chose, but don't demand 1) your choice be universal and 2) that others should live accordingly.


I have never 'demanded" ..I simply pointed out my opinion.........if everyone would live by the fruits of the spirit or loved their neighbor like they loved themselves and loved God, with all thier heart, mind, and soul.............it would be a pretty smooth world....that's all.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Y

But you do 'demand', Henry.  I see you in many ways expecting this country to be run according to, and others to be bound by, your religious sensibilities, and supporting those who continually promote that sort of agenda.

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In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Y on June 09, 2008, 03:58:23 PM
But you do 'demand', Henry.  I see you in many ways expecting this country to be run according to, and others to be bound by, your religious sensibilities, and supporting those who continually promote that sort of agenda.

I'm only one person with one vote............I cannot demand anything............I do have my beliefs and will vote in a way that I think will best support our country and it's integrity.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Isabelle

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 09, 2008, 04:39:25 PM
I'm only one person with one vote............I cannot demand anything............I do have my beliefs and will vote in a way that I think will best support our country and it's integrity.

This is the most true thing I have ever heard. "I am only one person."
Like you Henry, I get so tired of being blamed for everything any one person said or did that was not Godly, but said that it was.
I want to be judged by others by the way I live, not by the way some one else who claims to be a Christian says or does.
I also get so tired of some people expecting me to have all the answers for everything that God has said or done. I will be the first to say that while I may not know the answer that I believe in what God says for me to do, to the best of  my knowledge. Because I can not answer every question out there does not make me less a Christian.. and it does not make God wrong.
"Every post, even the worst ones [sic],
tell [sic] you something about the person
who posts it.".. Auther unknown.