Quote from: Purplelady1040 on February 03, 2016, 05:04:16 AM
Some women are just bitches.
Quote from: libby on February 03, 2016, 11:25:27 AM
I could write a book but will for now just say I found out early in life, in Bluefield, WV, that I liked men bosses better than women.
I saw this topic in another part of the site and thought it would be a good topic to explore.
I've found that women in general don't like other women in superior positions - or a lot of times just other women in general. They appear to be quite catty about it.
I was talking to one whose a friend of my wife and I and she came right out and said the she doesn't think a woman should be president - that it's a man's job.
That is not even the first time I've heard such from a woman, and to tell the truth, I admit I don't get it.
So I'd like to hear the thoughts from the women here.
I had 2 great women bosses but then had one who was a bitch. Do I think there will come a time that we will have a female President, probably but I don't see or want it anytime soon. I don't know that woman can deal with all the stresses that the President does and handle it. Think about it, foreign relations, military and other domestic issues. Hell, most women and myself included would probably have to binge on some form of chocolate to get through all that. I know it would take a great woman of extraordinary political savvy to become the President, so I guess time will tell.
Do I want Hillary to be President, no but then I don't want Trump either? I have never been a fan of some women in some power positions, it is nothing personal as I held a power position but some women like your friend said are catty and back stabbing bitches. I like Libby have gotten along better with men bosses. I found the men to be more sympathetic when I had a surgery and adopted our children then some women.
What is your take, Y?
Quote from: Y on March 05, 2016, 02:22:54 PM
I saw this topic in another part of the site and thought it would be a good topic to explore.
I've found that women in general don't like other women in superior positions - or a lot of times just other women in general. They appear to be quite catty about it.
I was talking to one whose a friend of my wife and I and she came right out and said the she doesn't think a woman should be president - that it's a man's job.
That is not even the first time I've heard such from a woman, and to tell the truth, I admit I don't get it.
So I'd like to hear the thoughts from the women here.
I have supported Hillary Clinton from Day 1. I think she, especially she, and women in general can be just as tough and intelligent and capable (except for physical strength) as men.
As for your comment (in bold above) I have found from personal experience that the opposite is often true. Women in superior positions resent and are perhaps afraid of women who are younger, or more attractive, or more intelligent, or sometimes just nicer to be around. Or all of the above. Beginning in high school, 11th and 12th grades in a new school, I was shunned by a group of mean girls.
One more example: in my first job while I was taking college classes and working part time in a hospital, the assistant to the boss complained about me to him -- he said she told him I was wasting too much typing paper. My job was to sit beside him and type while he dictated x-ray reports. Of course I made mistakes, which I later corrected before giving them to him to sign. But I said nothing in my defense. I just looked at him. But you know what? Within a week, she was moved to another job, and he, the doctor became like a surrogate father to me as my own father lay dying in the same hospital.
It depends on the woman, there are women who could handle the job better than any man but Hillary isn't that woman. I have worked under women who I had no problem with and women who had no business being in a management position and the same goes for men. It has a whole lot more to do with the person rather than the gender IMHO. As far as a woman president goes at this point in time there are some countries who think woman are to be seen and not heard let alone be in a position of power so that may present a problem.
Quote from: me on March 05, 2016, 07:04:08 PM
It has a whole lot more to do with the person rather than the gender IMHO.
Agree. That's what I've always experienced. My manager now and the one right before her are both wonderful to work for. They expect hard work and appreciate it and give praise when it's done. They also get down in the trenches when it's needed. How many bosses do you know will mop up an overflowed toilet and the water that traveled down the hallway? (I work in a library and we have no custodial staff on-site, so whoever sees a mess gets to clean it up.) I was working on it with another co-worker who told my boss what was going on. She immediately came down and helped us.
I think Clinton will make a good president. She's proved she can handle herself, and handle herself well, under pressure. She's intelligent and well-spoken.
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on March 05, 2016, 05:53:46 PM
I don't know that woman can deal with all the stresses that the President does and handle it. Think about it, foreign relations, military and other domestic issues. Hell, most women and myself included would probably have to binge on some form of chocolate to get through all that.
Maybe that's why Reagan had his jellybeans! ;)
Quote from: AbbyTC on March 05, 2016, 10:36:12 PM
Maybe that's why Reagan had his jellybeans! ;)
Hahaha, true
Quote from: AbbyTC on March 05, 2016, 10:36:12 PM
Maybe that's why Reagan had his jellybeans! ;)
:food24: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: AbbyTC on March 05, 2016, 10:27:06 PM
Agree. That's what I've always experienced. My manager now and the one right before her are both wonderful to work for. They expect hard work and appreciate it and give praise when it's done. They also get down in the trenches when it's needed. How many bosses do you know will mop up an overflowed toilet and the water that traveled down the hallway? (I work in a library and we have no custodial staff on-site, so whoever sees a mess gets to clean it up.) I was working on it with another co-worker who told my boss what was going on. She immediately came down and helped us.
I think Clinton will make a good president. She's proved she can handle herself, and handle herself well, under pressure. She's intelligent and well-spoken.
You work in a library! I consider that an ideal job. Not too long ago I talked to somebody at a big county library close to my home about volunteering when my life slows down a little.
Quote from: libby on March 06, 2016, 12:22:02 PM
You work in a library! I consider that an ideal job. Not too long ago I talked to somebody at a big county library close to my home about volunteering when my life slows down a little.
We love our volunteers. :smitten: We also have a volunteer Friends group that raises money for the library. Our funding had been cut in the past and it has only been partially restored. (That might change as our executive director went to the county commissioners to ask for an increase in the library tax. Keeping our fingers crossed!) The Friends hold two book sales a year and at each one raise over $10,000. That buys us new carts, displays, chairs, etc. These are usually items we don't really have money for in the budget.
Support your library! :yes: If you haven't been to yours lately, go visit. It's a great place to see!
Quote from: AbbyTC on March 06, 2016, 01:25:43 PM
We love our volunteers. :smitten: We also have a volunteer Friends group that raises money for the library. Our funding had been cut in the past and it has only been partially restored. (That might change as our executive director went to the county commissioners to ask for an increase in the library tax. Keeping our fingers crossed!) The Friends hold two book sales a year and at each one raise over $10,000. That buys us new carts, displays, chairs, etc. These are usually items we don't really have money for in the budget.
Support your library! :yes: If you haven't been to yours lately, go visit. It's a great place to see!
I love the library. I also worked in one when I was in elementary school.all the way until I was in college. The only paid one was the college one which went back to paying my tuition but I still love going to the library
My first job was working for a life insurance company in their home office. I worked for a very nice lady and most of the people in the office were women. (This was 1965.) I don't remember any problems between the women I worked with as far as backstabbing, etc. I never had a problem when I worked at the hospital either. Of course, neither of those jobs were corporate ladder type, so that is a different kettle of fish. My sister-in-law hates to work with women though, she has a more traditional attitude than I do.
Quote from: AbbyTC on March 05, 2016, 10:36:12 PM
Maybe that's why Reagan had his jellybeans! ;)
You know what? I went to the store the other day and I found some of the best licorice jelly beans. :clap: These are the best licorice jelly I have found in years and years. :suck: :yes: :biggrin: :kiss:
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on March 06, 2016, 02:20:16 PM
I love the library. I also worked in one when I was in elementary school.all the way until I was in college. The only paid one was the college one which went back to paying my tuition but I still love going to the library
What did you do at the library? Unpaid and paid.
Quote from: AbbyTC on March 08, 2016, 08:14:25 PM
What did you do at the library? Unpaid and paid.
Checked books in and out, this was all before computers, put books on the book shelves in the order they belonged. Fiction, nonfiction, reference. That was about it. It is nothing like today's library personnel.who have to be experts in everything.
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on March 08, 2016, 09:43:21 PM
Checked books in and out, this was all before computers, put books on the book shelves in the order they belonged. Fiction, nonfiction, reference. That was about it. It is nothing like today's library personnel.who have to be experts in everything.
My wife did did the same thing at our town's library for 13 years. :yes: Library personnel have to be experts in everything? NOT! :yes: :smile:
Quote from: The Troll on March 09, 2016, 11:41:05 AM
My wife did did the same thing at our town's library for 13 years. :yes: Library personnel have to be experts in everything? NOT! :yes: :smile:
They do nowadays with computers being the wave of the future. The library isn't just about books anymore. Ours has a huge computer room for those who don't have computers to be able to get on the internet. You would be surprised at the number of people who can't get on the computer and work the internet. Who do they turn to? The librarian. Libraries often have huge DVD and audio book collections and again, the librarian has to be knowledgeable to what they have in those. You would be surprised at the people who can't even find the books using the Dewey Decimal System so again they have to the librarian since it is looked up on the computer. Yes, librarians are very much an expert in their field. Most have a Master Degree in Library Science and know the subject they work in.
Quote from: The Troll on March 09, 2016, 11:41:05 AM
My wife did did the same thing at our town's library for 13 years. :yes: Library personnel have to be experts in everything? NOT! :yes: :smile:
Actually Troll, you'd be surprised at the number of people who
expect librarians to be experts on everything. ;D
Quote from: Locutus on March 09, 2016, 11:46:00 AM
Actually Troll, you'd be surprised at the number of people who expect librarians to be experts on everything. ;D
What I should have posted was an expert in the area of the library. I wouldn't expect a librarian to be an expert in say plumbing, necessarily.
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on March 09, 2016, 11:49:23 AM
What I should have posted was an expert in the area of the library. I wouldn't expect a librarian to be an expert in say plumbing, necessarily.
But some people do though. They expect if they need an answer to just about anything, just ask the librarian and they'll have the answer. :yes:
Quote from: Locutus on March 09, 2016, 11:52:20 AM
But some people do though. They expect if they need an answer to just about anything, just ask the librarian and they'll have the answer. :yes:
I imagine so. Lol
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on March 09, 2016, 12:05:16 PM
I imagine so. Lol
Librarian: "How would I know that answer? Why don't you go to Goggle or YouTube?" :haha:
Quote from: The Troll on March 09, 2016, 03:05:23 PM
Librarian: "How would I know that answer? Why don't you go to Goggle or YouTube?" :haha:
Common sense isn't a common commodity. :big grin:
Quote from: The Troll on March 09, 2016, 03:05:23 PM
Librarian: "How would I know that answer? Why don't you go to Goggle or YouTube?" :haha:
You mean Google?
Quote from: Locutus on March 09, 2016, 11:46:00 AM
Actually Troll, you'd be surprised at the number of people who expect librarians to be experts on everything. ;D
We are expected by some patrons to know EVERYTHING, and they get a bit disgruntled with us when we don't have an exact answer for them but instead show them resources to help them.
We're also expected to know how to run every single tablet and phone out there.