Fucking. Traitors. (http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/09/politics/republicans-letter-iran-nuclear-deal-obama/index.html)
Quote from: Exterminator on March 10, 2015, 09:21:22 AM
Fucking. Traitors. (http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/09/politics/republicans-letter-iran-nuclear-deal-obama/index.html)
Fucking treasonous traitors! They all need to be executed! :mad:
Quote from: Palehorse on March 10, 2015, 12:15:43 PM
Fucking treasonous traitors! They all need to be executed! :mad:
Yep!
Quote from: Palehorse on March 10, 2015, 12:15:43 PM
Fucking treasonous traitors! They all need to be executed! :mad:
Start with the White House, then we will talk.
Dr. Zarif`s Response to the Letter of US Senators
Asked about the open letter of 47 US Senators to Iranian leaders, the Iranian Foreign Minister, Dr. Javad Zarif, responded that "in our view, this letter has no legal value and is mostly a propaganda ploy. It is very interesting that while negotiations are still in progress and while no agreement has been reached, some political pressure groups are so afraid even of the prospect of an agreement that they resort to unconventional methods, unprecedented in diplomatic history. This indicates that like Netanyahu, who considers peace as an existential threat, some are opposed to any agreement, regardless of its content.
Zarif expressed astonishment that some members of US Congress find it appropriate to write to leaders of another country against their own President and administration. He pointed out that from reading the open letter, it seems that the authors not only do not understand international law, but are not fully cognizant of the nuances of their own Constitution when it comes to presidential powers in the conduct of foreign policy.
Foreign Minister Zarif added that "I should bring one important point to the attention of the authors and that is, the world is not the United States, and the conduct of inter-state relations is governed by international law, and not by US domestic law. The authors may not fully understand that in international law, governments represent the entirety of their respective states, are responsible for the conduct of foreign affairs, are required to fulfil the obligations they undertake with other states and may not invoke their internal law as justification for failure to perform their international obligations.
The Iranian Foreign Minister added that "Change of administration does not in any way relieve the next administration from international obligations undertaken by its predecessor in a possible agreement about Iran`s peaceful nuclear program." He continued "I wish to enlighten the authors that if the next administration revokes any agreement with the stroke of a pen, as they boast, it will have simply committed a blatant violation of international law.
He emphasized that if the current negotiation with P5+1 result in a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, it will not be a bilateral agreement between Iran and the US, but rather one that will be concluded with the participation of five other countries, including all permanent members of the Security Council, and will also be endorsed by a Security Council resolution.
Zarif expressed the hope that his comments "may enrich the knowledge of the authors to recognize that according to international law, Congress may not modify the terms of the agreement at any time as they claim, and if Congress adopts any measure to impede its implementation, it will have committed a material breach of US obligations.
The Foreign Minister also informed the authors that majority of US international agreements in recent decades are in fact what the signatories describe as "mere executive agreements" and not treaties ratified by the Senate.
He reminded them that "their letter in fact undermines the credibility of thousands of such mere executive agreements that have been or will be entered into by the US with various other governments.
Zarif concluded by stating that "the Islamic Republic of Iran has entered these negotiations in good faith and with the political will to reach an agreement, and it is imperative for our counterparts to prove similar good faith and political will in order to make an agreement possible."
Iranian Ministry of Foreign Relations (http://en.mfa.ir/index.aspx?siteid=3&fkeyid=&siteid=3&fkeyid=&siteid=3&pageid=1997&newsview=330948)
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It's pretty fucking embarrassing when the Iranian Foreign Minister has to school a bunch of dumbass fucking Republican senators about the U.S. Constitution and International Law.
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Quote from: Locutus on March 10, 2015, 04:07:53 PM
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It's pretty fucking embarrassing when the Iranian Foreign Minister has to school a bunch of dumbass fucking Republican senators about the U.S. Constitution and International Law.
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Especially about the Constitution!
Quote from: Locutus on March 10, 2015, 04:07:53 PM
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It's pretty fucking embarrassing when the Iranian Foreign Minister has to school a bunch of dumbass fucking Republican senators about the U.S. Constitution and International Law.
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Seriously? You are taking the word of the PM of a State Sponsored of Terrorism (According to the U.S. Dept of State (http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm)) :rolleyes:
Did you actually READ the letter written by the Senators?
They simply told the truth. PERIOD. Nothing in it is a wrong or misleading. Stepping out of bounds? perhaps....
Yet, the liberals will BASH the PM of Israel...and praise the PM of Iran!?! :confused: :rolleyes: Really? There IS something wrong and misleading about that... ;) :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 10, 2015, 04:45:29 PM
Seriously? You are taking the word of the PM of a State Sponsored of Terrorism (According to the U.S. Dept of State (http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm)) :rolleyes:
No. I'm just reading the Constitution of the United States.
Quote from: Bo D on March 10, 2015, 05:09:21 PM
No. I'm just reading the Constitution of the United States.
...as am I, as well as SCOTUS rulings that support the position of the president.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 10, 2015, 04:45:29 PM
Seriously? You are taking the word of the PM of a State Sponsored of Terrorism (According to the U.S. Dept of State (http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm)) :rolleyes:
Did you actually READ the letter written by the Senators?
They simply told the truth. PERIOD. Nothing in it is a wrong or misleading. Stepping out of bounds? perhaps....
Yet, the liberals will BASH the PM of Israel...and praise the PM of Iran!?! :confused: :rolleyes: Really? There IS something wrong and misleading about that... ;) :yes:
And if you think they told the truth in their letter, then perhaps you need to study up on the Constitution, previous SCOTUS rulings on this subject, and international law, just as much as that bunch of Republican jackass Senators do.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 10, 2015, 04:45:29 PM
Seriously? You are taking the word of the PM of a State Sponsored of Terrorism (According to the U.S. Dept of State (http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm)) :rolleyes:
Did you actually READ the letter written by the Senators?
They simply told the truth. PERIOD. Nothing in it is a wrong or misleading. Stepping out of bounds? perhaps....
. . .
They are undermining the office of the President of the United States of America, and going directly against the oath of office to which they swore; specifically the part about upholding the Constitution of the United States of America. Both acts are treasonous. It is just that simple.
He goes around congress and shouldn't so what's the difference? Shouldn't they both involve the other one equally? He is not even listening to his advisors on these negotiations because he, with no experience what-so-ever, thinks he knows best and is going it alone. He won't even listen to the people most closely involved who know more than he ever hopes to know about the situation and how ISIS will react to his "treaty".
This isn't anything the Dems haven't done. Of course ya'll forget about that huh?
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2007-04-04-pelosi-syria_N.htm
Why doesn't it surprise me that our forum's resident fucking morons don't understand why it's wrong for a large contingent of the U.S. Senate to directly undermine the authority of the office of the President Of The United States to a foreign government with which we have an adversarial relationship?
Congratulations, idiots; our entire nation now looks like fools the the rest of the world but you don't fucking care; do you? No, because like those senators, your hatred of Obama is far more important to you than what is good for this country. Treasonous scum bags...
All I am going to say is fucking WOW!
The hypocrisy knows no bounds.....
If you guys would look into the mirror, and use the intellectual honesty that you claim to have.........then we wouldn't be having this discussion.
fucking WOW!
I am tapping out on this. :yes:
The story will tell itself as time moves on just like it did in Ferguson, and Benghazi and fast and furious and on and on and on.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 11, 2015, 09:25:22 AM
All I am going to say is fucking WOW!
The hypocrisy knows no bounds.....
If you guys would look into the mirror, and use the intellectual honesty that you claim to have.........then we wouldn't be having this discussion.
fucking WOW!
I am tapping out on this. :yes:
The story will tell itself as time moves on just like it did in Ferguson, and Benghazi and fast and furious and on and on and on.
He obviously didn't check out my link.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 11, 2015, 09:25:22 AM
All I am going to say is fucking WOW!
The hypocrisy knows no bounds.....
If you guys would look into the mirror, and use the intellectual honesty that you claim to have.........then we wouldn't be having this discussion.
fucking WOW!
I am tapping out on this. :yes:
The story will tell itself as time moves on just like it did in Ferguson, and Benghazi and fast and furious and on and on and on.
One more point that needs pointed out, is that Obama is not squeaky clean on this. When his very own democrat Menedez wanted to legislate a bill with more sanctions IF Nuke talks failed, Obama said he would VETO any such action. So, the Republicans sent a message, that If Congress doesn't sign off on any deal then neither they nor the next U.S. president are bound to abide by it. THAT IS CONSTITUTIONAL. Congress MUST sign off on any DEAL the POTUS makes......Our Constitution requires any international treaty to be ratified by a two-thirds vote in the Senate, and "anything not approved by Congress is a mere executive agreement.
It is not like this is the first time congress and the WH has had conflicts on similar issues in our Nations history.
With that being said, I think they did indeed undermined the POTUS, and that is not a good thing, even though I think there is so much more at stake and that congress is doing this, despite what you think, to strengthen America and keeping it safe. Obama has lost trust with congress by acting solo on issues such as Obamacare and Immigration, by using Excutive Orders to force his way through.
I'm sick and tired of democrats putting all the blame on the right, for not accomplishing a common good for America. It starts with leadership and OBAMA is NOT a good leader. No matter what color he is Ex. I think YOU know this to be true too. I know you are smart enough to realize this, you just have a hatred by anyone on the RIGHT, to admit it.
Now, I am done..
Pffft, Hank!
It all starts with the inherent racism still abundant in this country.
The RW - composed almost entirely of disgruntled white folks - completely and collectively lost their friggin' minds when a 'black' man was elected to their 'White' House.
Everything that has happened coming from that RW since then goes directly to that fact.
Those RWers got a real glimpse of their future no longer having complete control of this country and being forced to assimilate with the rest of the American population.
That letter really has nothing to do with Iran but has everything to do with making the first 'black' President's administration such a disaster that those scared RW 'whiteys' can regain control and stave off the future.
It's American history repeating itself again and again and again...
Quote from: Y on March 23, 2015, 04:30:22 PM
Pffft, Hank!
It all starts with the inherent racism still abundant in this country.
The RW - composed almost entirely of disgruntled white folks - completely and collectively lost their friggin' minds when a 'black' man was elected to their 'White' House.
Everything that has happened coming from that RW since then goes directly to that fact.
Those RWers got a real glimpse of their future no longer having complete control of this country and being forced to assimilate with the rest of the American population.
That letter really has nothing to do with Iran but has everything to do with making the first 'black' President's administration such a disaster that those scared RW 'whiteys' can regain control and stave off the future.
It's American history repeating itself again and again and again...
:det:
"HAH!"(TM)
Just to prove it, let's see if we have the same media circus/public outcry about Ted Cruz's citizenship as we've had over Obama's.
It ain't gonna' happen - just like it didn't happen about John McCain or Mitt Romney.
They're all 'white'.
Now what was that about racism and bigotry not being alive and well..."Right here in River City!".
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 11, 2015, 11:31:21 AM
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I'm sick and tired of democrats putting all the blame on the right, for not accomplishing a common good for America. It starts with leadership and OBAMA is NOT a good leader. . . .
Seriously? Statements like this make me giddy over the prospect of the end of our POTUS's term. Not because such statements are even within the same universe as truth, but because I am just so sick and tired of hearing/reading such blatant and outright lies.
What about this asshat Cruz, who is already basing his political platform upon a host of lies and falsehoods? PROVEN falsehoods and lies, and yet he persists in spewing them and working the sheeple into a froth.
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I
n his announcement speech, Cruz accused the Obama administration of seeking "to ban our ammunition." The administration isn't seeking to ban the public from buying ammunition, but it recently sought to ban a certain type of armor-piercing bullet.
The federal Gun Control Act of 1968 already bans armor-piercing ammunition with exemptions for ammunition it deems "primarily intended for sporting purposes." On Feb. 13, the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives proposed withdrawing an exemption it had granted in 1986 for the "M855 'green tip' ammunition," according to the agency's public notice explaining the proposal and seeking comments. The National Rifle Association said the M855 is commonly used in AR-15 rifles.
Cruz was one of 53 senators who signed a March 9 letter to the ATF objecting to the bureau's proposal for the M855. On March 10, the ATF announced it would postpone issuing a final decision, saying the "vast majority" of the 80,000 comments it had received to date were critical of the proposed change and required "further study." . . .
. . .
Cruz also made a pitch to repeal "every word of Obamacare," and he claimed that as a result of the law "millions ... have lost their health insurance."
Cruz isn't the first to make this claim, which stems from President Obama's ill-fated promise, "If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan." That was clearly proven false when, in the fall of 2013, several million people received cancellation notices for individual market plans that no longer met the law's benefit requirements.
But to claim simply that millions lost their health insurance is misleading. Those individual market plans were discontinued, but policyholders weren't denied coverage. Many upgraded to compliant plans (albeit at a higher cost, for some).
Moreover, there is evidence that far more have gained coverage than had their policies canceled. According to an Urban Institute report in March, the number of insured Americans rose by nearly 10 million between September 2013 and December 2014. Overall, the rate of uninsured in the U.S. fell during that period from 17.7% to 12.8%, the report said. . . .
. . .
Cruz vowed to repeal "every word of Common Core," which he called an effort by the federal government to "dictate school curriculum." As we have said before, the standards were developed by governors and state education officials and voluntarily adopted by states, and the curriculum is set by state and local school officials.
• Cruz also warned that the Affordable Care Act puts the government "between you and your doctor." As we wrote when Cruz made a similar claim back in 2013, the law doesn't create a government-run system. If anything, the law comes between you and your insurance company, forbidding them from capping your coverage or charging you more based on health status.
• Cruz blamed the law for "skyrocketing health insurance premiums." But as we have written before, premiums for those who buy their own private insurance will go up or down, in some cases significantly, depending on individual circumstances. And premiums for employer-sponsored plans, where most Americans have coverage, have increased at a much slower rate than they did under President George W. Bush.. . .
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• Cruz claimed in November that the 2014 midterm elections were "a referendum on amnesty" and voters had sent a clear message opposing it. But Cruz was wrong. Election voters, by a margin of 57% to 39%, said those living in the U.S. illegally but working should be offered a chance to gain legal status, according to exit polling.
• Cruz has regularly drawn applause in recent speeches for his suggestion to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and put "every one of those 110,000 [IRS] agents ... on our southern border." But, as we have written, the IRS has nowhere near 110,000 employees, let alone that many agents. The number of IRS employees has been on the decline, and currently stands at about 82,000. Less than a quarter of them are revenue agents, special agents or revenue officers.
• On July 21, 2013, Cruz warned that if the Senate immigration bill became law, there will be "20 or 30 million" people living in the U.S. illegally "in another 10, 20 years." That's his opinion, but we wrote that the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says the bill, if enacted, will reduce future illegal immigration in 10 years by 33% to 50% compared with current law. . . .
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• In September 2013, Cruz distorted the impact of the Affordable Care Act on premiums. He claimed that the Ohio Department of Insurance announced an 88% average increase for the individual market. It didn't. The department estimated a 41% increase on average in a press release that called for the law's repeal.
• In a TV ad, Cruz misconstrued the words of the health care law's lead author. Claiming "there's bipartisan agreement that Obamacare isn't working," Cruz said Max Baucus, a Democratic senator at the time, called the law "a huge train wreck." But Baucus didn't say "Obamacare isn't working," and he didn't call it "a huge train wreck." He was critical of the education and outreach efforts of the administration during implementation of the law, not the law itself.
. . .
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/03/24/fact-check-ted-cruz/70367864/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/03/24/fact-check-ted-cruz/70367864/)
This asshat is a bald-faced liar! Given his surname, how soon can we expect you guys to demand
his birth certificate? :roll eyes:
Hillary will win in a landslide, and then we'll have to listen to all of you squalling about her for 8 years!
Seriously, Cruz is a nutcase!
Quote from: Y on March 24, 2015, 05:50:26 PM
Seriously, Cruz is a nutcase!
:yes: A certifiable one! :yes:
Quote from: Y on March 24, 2015, 05:50:26 PM
Seriously, Cruz is a nutcase!
Quote from: Palehorse on March 24, 2015, 05:56:05 PM
:yes: A certifiable one! :yes:
....who's now on Obamacare. :biggrin:
Republican presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), whose push to defund Obamacare led to a government shutdown, now plans to get insured through the federal exchange.
"We will presumably go on the exchange and sign up for health care and we're in the process of transitioning over to do that," Cruz told the Des Moines Register on Tuesday.
Previously, Cruz had been covered under his wife's blue-chip employer health insurance plan. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-cruz-to-sign-up-obamacare-insurance
Quote from: Locutus on March 24, 2015, 05:58:09 PM
....who's now on Obamacare. :biggrin:
Republican presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), whose push to defund Obamacare led to a government shutdown, now plans to get insured through the federal exchange.
"We will presumably go on the exchange and sign up for health care and we're in the process of transitioning over to do that," Cruz told the Des Moines Register on Tuesday.
Previously, Cruz had been covered under his wife's blue-chip employer health insurance plan.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-cruz-to-sign-up-obamacare-insurance
So he's also a hypocrite too! :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on March 24, 2015, 05:59:43 PM
So he's also a hypocrite too! :biggrin:
I guess, in his case, desperate times call for desperate measures. ;D
Quote from: Locutus on March 24, 2015, 06:00:36 PM
I guess, in his case, desperate times call for desperate measures. ;D
He might have to pay for his own happy pills! :icon_twisted:
Oh THAT's absolutely hilarious!
You can always count on the RW and Toilet Paper Party idjits to be hypocrites. :yes: