Jackie Bruno, a reporter for New England Cable News, said on Twitter that she saw people's legs blown off.
:spooked: :spooked: :spooked:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/15/17764747-witnesses-2-explosions-heard-near-finish-line-of-boston-marathon?lite
Wonder if anyone will claim responsibility for it.
Well if it's like the last two bombings of this type on American soil and is home grown, I doubt it.
I wouldn't be surprised if it is domestic, either. People are just crazy.
I'll bet it was done by Muslim people and it is by Muslims who are from America. It was the work of more than one person. :rant:
I wonder what the reward will be. I know I am sick of the hour upon hour of coverage of this act of terrorism with nobody knowing anything. :rolleyes:
Domestic gets my vote as well. Why?
Look at the depressed economy in the midwest. Consider the likelihood that the perpetrator(s) is likely a middle aged individual that has been laid off after a decade or more of working for the same company, and is now faced with age discrimination and the unreasonable bar the legal system sets surrounding proving same.
He has probably lost his home, possibly his family, and is subsisting off whatever savings / retirement fund he may have accumulated; with little to no hope of obtaining any kind of work that pays much above minimum wage.
Multiply this person by a few million and there is your pool of suspects in this nation. Facing a long, hot, and miserable existence filled with starvation and being considered a lazy scumbag.
That and the fact it happened on tax day leads me to believe it is indeed another domestic terrorism incident that will result in the severe restriction of the purchase of ball bearings and whatever other components that were used to manufacture these explosive devices.
Quote from: Palehorse on April 16, 2013, 12:05:44 AM
Domestic gets my vote as well. Why?
Look at the depressed economy in the midwest. Consider the likelihood that the perpetrator(s) is likely a middle aged individual that has been laid off after a decade or more of working for the same company, and is now faced with age discrimination and the unreasonable bar the legal system sets surrounding proving same.
He has probably lost his home, possibly his family, and is subsisting off whatever savings / retirement fund he may have accumulated; with little to no hope of obtaining any kind of work that pays much above minimum wage.
Multiply this person by a few million and there is your pool of suspects in this nation. Facing a long, hot, and miserable existence filled with starvation and being considered a lazy scumbag.
That and the fact it happened on tax day leads me to believe it is indeed another domestic terrorism incident that will result in the severe restriction of the purchase of ball bearings and whatever other components that were used to manufacture these explosive devices.
What planet are you from? Starvation, I can not help if they have sold their food stamps for pills, or are to lazy to walk to a food kitchen. Here you can dial them up, and they will bring the food to you. If you are that lazy and stupid you should starve. The WV house voted to feed every child in WV regardless of income.
I'm hearing conflicting reports about unexploded devices being found. Some say they found some; others say none were found. :confused:
The Pakistani Taliban has denied involvement, and my money is still on this being of the home grown variety.
Quote from: RC on April 16, 2013, 09:39:56 AM
What planet are you from? Starvation, I can not help if they have sold their food stamps for pills, or are to lazy to walk to a food kitchen. Here you can dial them up, and they will bring the food to you. If you are that lazy and stupid you should starve. The WV house voted to feed every child in WV regardless of income.
There is a country outside of WV you ninny! :rolleyes:
Quote from: Locutus on April 16, 2013, 10:35:29 AM
I'm hearing conflicting reports about unexploded devices being found. Some say they found some; others say none were found. :confused:
The Pakistani Taliban has denied involvement, and my money is still on this being of the home grown variety.
Yeah. I hate the fact the media feels entitled to speculate. It always adds to the confusion. :mad:
It's domestic. If it weren't some extremist group would have already claimed it.
I have watched very little of the coverage of this event until this morning. They just had a public official on CNN that said absolutely no unexploded devices were found.
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Now ricin has been mailed to Senator Roger Wicker. :spooked:
CNN, CBS and Fox all reporting that an arrest has been made in the Boston Marathon bombing case. News conference scheduled for 5 PM. Also confirmed that Ricin laced letters sent to President Obama and some other members of congress. Letters signed by KC. People are really stupid.
Now CNN and Fox are both saying that have not been any arrests. Lots of reporters at the court house/jail (?).
I have two pressure cookers and one pressure canner. Will I have to registered the pressure cookers a deadly weapons and can I get a permit to use them for cooking after a background check by the ATF, FBI and the State Government. :wink: :rolleyes:
Suspect 1 - DEAD!
Suspect 2 - Cornered.
According to the the reports I am hearing they are brothers that moved from Russia to the US several years ago.
Suspects were pursued overnight and the older brother was shot while wearing explosives and a triggering device. Currently it is speculated that the younger brother is also wearing explosives.
Speculation: They robbed a 7/11 store then carjacked a vehicle, killed a university LEO, and then were cornered. . .
Tsarnev is their last name.
Quote from: Palehorse on April 19, 2013, 10:58:55 AM
Suspect 1 - DEAD!
Suspect 2 - Cornered.
According to the the reports I am hearing they are brothers that moved from Russia to the US several years ago.
Suspects were pursued overnight and the older brother was shot while wearing explosives and a triggering device. Currently it is speculated that the younger brother is also wearing explosives.
Speculation: They robbed a 7/11 store then carjacked a vehicle, killed a university LEO, and then were cornered. . .
Tsarnev is their last name.
Not clear whether or not police have the last suspect cornered or not.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 19, 2013, 11:13:31 AM
Shouldn't that say harvested?
:thumbsup: :wink: :smile:
Quote from: Exterminator on April 19, 2013, 11:13:31 AM
Shouldn't that say harvested?
Wrong topic, but yeah! :smile:
Second suspect in custody. If he were smart, he would have harvested himself because when they're done with him, he's going to end up at ADX-Florence.
Quote from: Locutus on April 19, 2013, 10:31:29 PM
Second suspect in custody. If he were smart, he would have harvested himself because when they're done with him, he's going to end up at ADX-Florence.
Yup!
What is ADX-Florence?
It's the Federal ADMAX prison in Florence Colorado. Inmates live basically inside concrete, are fed meals through holes in the doors, have zero interaction with others, and spend 23 1/2 hours every day confined to their cells.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence
Quote from: Locutus on April 20, 2013, 12:07:53 PM
It's the Federal ADMAX prison in Florence Colorado. Inmates live basically inside concrete, are fed meals through holes in the doors, have zero interaction with others, and spend 23 1/2 hours every day confined to their cells.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence
I want him to be taken outside in a big open field. Tied to a chair with his eyes taped open. A pressure cooker full of explosives with a long fuse he can see and blown to his Muslim hell. BOOM! :rant: All of this put on the international internet so his Muslim friends can see it. With the song of "I fall to pieces in the background. :yes: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on April 20, 2013, 12:49:49 PM
I want him to be taken outside in a big open field. Tied to a chair with his eyes taped open. A pressure cooker full of explosives with a long fuse he can see and blown to his Muslim hell. BOOM! :rant: All of this put on the international internet so his Muslim friends can see it. With the song of "I fall to pieces in the background. :yes: :biggrin:
And what exactly would this accomplish aside from vengeance? And lowering our society to his (their) level.
He's 19 years old. Spending the next 60 years in a concrete room, with no human interaction, and being fed through a hole, sounds like a much better fate to me.
The bomber deserves the death penalty, after given the due process that all citizens deserve. What makes me sick is the fact that the police went door to door all the while spiting on the Constitution . The spineless subjects never whimpered as the city was shut down by the little muslim terrorist.
Quote from: RC on April 21, 2013, 02:12:14 PM
The bomber deserves the death penalty, after given the due process that all citizens deserve. What makes me sick is the fact that the police went door to door all the while spiting on the Constitution . The spineless subjects never whimpered as the city was shut down by the little muslim terrorist.
Umm. . . your conservative filled SCOTUS says this is completely in line with the law. . .
Quote from: RC on April 21, 2013, 02:12:14 PM
The spineless subjects never whimpered as the city was shut down by the little muslim terrorist.
I would imagine that some substantial percentage of these, "spineless subjects," were you Ted Nugent loving, wanna-be bad-asses. Didn't notice any of them strapping on their side-arms and going out into the world. Nope, they were hiding in their holes right along side of everyone else. LMAO...buncha pussies.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 22, 2013, 12:25:28 PM
I would imagine that some substantial percentage of these, "spineless subjects," were you Ted Nugent loving, wanna-be bad-asses. Didn't notice any of them strapping on their side-arms and going out into the world. Nope, they were hiding in their holes right along side of everyone else. LMAO...buncha pussies.
Yup. They had the drizzles in their shorts for sure! :biggrin:
Quote from: Exterminator on April 22, 2013, 12:25:28 PM
I would imagine that some substantial percentage of these, "spineless subjects," were you Ted Nugent loving, wanna-be bad-asses. Didn't notice any of them strapping on their side-arms and going out into the world. Nope, they were hiding in their holes right along side of everyone else. LMAO...buncha pussies.
I do believe people were asked to stay in their homes and not be out and about.
Quote from: me on April 22, 2013, 12:35:05 PM
I do believe people were asked to stay in their homes and not be out and about.
Asked, not ordered.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 22, 2013, 01:32:07 PM
Asked, not ordered.
Actually, they were URGED to stay indoors and the CLOSED all transportation systems and asked business' not to open.
Kind of one of those damned if you do and damned if you don't moments.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 22, 2013, 01:32:07 PM
Asked, not ordered.
What is the difference in being,"asked","ordered" when a thug is pointing his rifle at you? The Constitution means something or it does not, which is it?
Quote from: RC on April 23, 2013, 09:23:53 AM
What is the difference in being,"asked","ordered" when a thug is pointing his rifle at you? The Constitution means something or it does not, which is it?
WTF are you babbling about?
Quote from: Exterminator on April 23, 2013, 09:28:21 AM
WTF are you babbling about?
You have no problem being ask/ordered from your house , when you have done nothing wrong? Are you really that brain dead about your rights? Do you trust the government that much?
Quote from: RC on April 23, 2013, 09:44:33 AM
You have no problem being ask/ordered from your house , when you have done nothing wrong? Are you really that brain dead about your rights? Do you trust the government that much?
Who was ordered from his/her house? I thought people were asked to stay
in their homes?
Quote from: Exterminator on April 23, 2013, 10:35:31 AM
Who was ordered from his/her house? I thought people were asked to stay in their homes?
He's just a reactionary extremist Ex.
More than likely he is referring to the house to house searches executed after the confrontation with the bombers by law enforcement.
After assessment of the occupants of the homes, police conducted room to room searches of those homes while looking for the surviving suspect. Once the home was cleared they were allowed back inside.
Reasonable given the circumstances, but fodder for the cannons of ignorance that he likes to fire off without any thought what-so-ever. :rolleyes:
I suppose that had the suspect been able to discreetly take a family hostage in order to avoid capture, and the protocol not been executed, he'd been bitching about why it wasn't done. . . :rolleyes:
Next he'll blame it on the POTUS. :rolleyes:
Quote from: RC on April 23, 2013, 09:44:33 AM
You have no problem being ask/ordered from your house , when you have done nothing wrong? Are you really that brain dead about your rights? Do you trust the government that much?
In such a circumstance wherein public safety is at a high level of risk, such as what happened in the Boston area, no I would not have a problem with it. I have nothing to hide.
In fact, it would help me feel safer in the knowledge that the suspect(s) are not on my property or in my home hiding without my knowledge of such.
It has nothing to do with trust at all. It has to do with public safety and potentially national security, and the governments incumbent duty to preserve and protect same; as explicitly expressed within the Constitution of the United States of America.
A refusal to comply is unconstitutional itself. Thankfully you do not live anywhere near me.
Quote from: Palehorse on April 23, 2013, 12:36:34 PM
In such a circumstance wherein public safety is at a high level of risk, such as what happened in the Boston area, no I would not have a problem with it. I have nothing to hide.
In fact, it would help me feel safer in the knowledge that the suspect(s) are not on my property or in my home hiding without my knowledge of such.
It has nothing to do with trust at all. It has to do with public safety and potentially national security, and the governments incumbent duty to preserve and protect same; as explicitly expressed within the Constitution of the United States of America.
A refusal to comply is unconstitutional itself. Thankfully you do not live anywhere near me.
We agree on something. I do not want to live near you either. You can b e sheeple all you want, and no want your rights in the Constitution all you want it is not for me. I will protect by property from little muslim terriorist.
I think we are on a slippery slope.......but, to be honest, I tend to agree with PH on this. I think the Boston Police intentions are not invalid, they want nothing more than to catch this creep. They did NOT declare any martial law.....they merely URGED people to stay inside. I don't think any police BARGED into anyones homes, busting down doors......they knocked and asked to check out their homes...I have NOT heard of any first hand accounts of anything unconstitutional going on.
But, they may have been on the verge of crossing the line....and perhaps DID over react....but, like I said earlier........it was a damned if you do and a damned if you don't scenerio....and the Boston Authorities were on the emotinal side of this event.
Quote from: RC on April 23, 2013, 01:22:13 PM
We agree on something. I do not want to live near you either. You can b e sheeple all you want, and no want your rights in the Constitution all you want it is not for me. I will protect by property from little muslim terriorist.
Like I said, reactionary extremist. :yes:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 24, 2013, 12:01:14 AM
Like I said, reactionary extremist. :yes:
...and ITG*! LMAO!
(* internet tough guy)
S/he's just regurgitating the crap from the RW Noize Machine...doesn't have an original thought in its head. :wink:
Quote from: Y on April 25, 2013, 06:55:21 PM
...and ITG*! LMAO!
(* internet tough guy)
S/he's just regurgitating the crap from the RW Noize Machine...doesn't have an original thought in its head. :wink:
Yup! :biggrin:
3 additional suspects in the custody of the FBI this morning. . . :spooked:
:spooked:
Three more victims. What the feds are trying to pull on these kids is plain bullshit and overkill. :yes: The Feds are trying to make themselves look good. :rant:
Don't lie to the feds.
Quote from: Anne on May 01, 2013, 09:40:11 PM
Don't lie to the feds.
Got a little advice for you Annie. If the FBI ever comes to you and ask some questions DON'T SAY A THING. Their are looking for someone to prosecute and if you say anything to them they don't like, all they have to say is you're lying and put you in jail for put to 8 years. This is the advice from a big time lawyer. :yes:
Old Martha Stewart was tried for stock fraud which she was found innocent, but the FBI said she had lied to them and she went to jail, this also happened to Susan McDougle. :yes:
Quote from: The Troll on May 02, 2013, 10:10:57 AM
Got a little advice for you Annie. If the FBI ever comes to you and ask some questions DON'T SAY A THING. Their are looking for someone to prosecute and if you say anything to them they don't like, all they have to say is you're lying and put you in jail for put to 8 years. This is the advice from a big time lawyer. :yes:
Old Martha Stewart was tried for stock fraud which she was found innocent, but the FBI said she had lied to them and she went to jail, this also happened to Susan McDougle. :yes:
If your goal is become a guest for a long stretch in a federal prison, then by all means follw this advice.
Quote from: Palehorse on May 02, 2013, 06:54:53 PM
If your goal is become a guest for a long stretch in a federal prison, then by all means follw this advice.
Also, Martha Stewart actually
did lie to them. :yes:
Don't worry, I don't plan on ever doing anything that the feds would come looking for me and I certainly wouldn't lie to them. I don't think I would like federal prison.
Quote from: Palehorse on May 02, 2013, 06:54:53 PM
If your goal is become a guest for a long stretch in a federal prison, then by all means follw this advice.
How so? You aren't required to say anything that an Constitution right. You know damn well the feds can twist anything you say. They can't twist nothing. Let them get a court order, say nothing off the cuff. :yes:
Quote from: The Troll on May 02, 2013, 11:27:53 PM
How so? You aren't required to say anything that an Constitution right. You know damn well the feds can twist anything you say. They can't twist nothing. Let them get a court order, say nothing off the cuff. :yes:
You answered your own question:
Quote from: The Troll on May 02, 2013, 10:10:57 AM
. . . Their are looking for someone to prosecute and if you say anything to them they don't like, all they have to say is you're lying and put you in jail for put to 8 years. . . .
If the feds come to your door, then 80-90% of the time they already know the answers to the questions they are there to ask you. They've done their homework and in most cases have taken months or years to get to that point. (Unless you've just plain screwed the pooch and left the answers out in broad daylight).
So, if they know the answers and have the evidence to fit you with a nice set of shiny bracelets, you don't have to say a damned word. You are going to the sin bin. However, the truth can set you free. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on May 03, 2013, 12:23:15 AM
You answered your own question:
If the feds come to your door, then 80-90% of the time they already know the answers to the questions they are there to ask you. They've done their homework and in most cases have taken months or years to get to that point. (Unless you've just plain screwed the pooch and left the answers out in broad daylight).
So, if they know the answers and have the evidence to fit you with a nice set of shiny bracelets, you don't have to say a damned word. You are going to the sin bin. However, the truth can set you free. . .
I went to work for the feds in 1986 and I agree with everything Palehorse wrote.
Quote from: libby on May 03, 2013, 06:19:01 AM
I went to work for the feds in 1986 and I agree with everything Palehorse wrote.
Yep. It seems they work very slowly to outsiders, but once they act more often than not the target is all but wrapped up in a nice, neat package and accompanied by a ton of evidence to validate things. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on May 04, 2013, 12:34:55 AM
Yep. It seems they work very slowly to outsiders, but once they act more often than not the target is all but wrapped up in a nice, neat package and accompanied by a ton of evidence to validate things. . .
But the Feds don't have a 100% perfect record of getting the right person with the right charges or evidence. Just like the some of the questions the prosecutors ask.
Are you still beating your wife? Are you still beating the kids? Still using dope? All question to lead and deceive the jury. :yes:
Or at a trail when you are being questioned and you're telling the true facts of the case which are just a little different from what you said to the investigators at the actual time of the so called offense. The question, "Are you lying now or were you lying when you first talked with us?"
Two questions of the many questions to make you out a liar and cast doubts on your honesty. Always getting the right person :haha: Just like the 18 people released from life in prison and death penalties in Illinois because of DNA tests proved it wasn't them. They convicted the wrong persons with a shyster prosecutor and a jury of 12 of your "peers". :rant: The judicial system in this country is not a good and honest as we are made to believe. :yes: :rolleyes: :doh:
Quote from: The Troll on May 04, 2013, 11:36:49 AM
But the Feds don't have a 100% perfect record of getting the right person with the right charges or evidence. Just like the some of the questions the prosecutors ask.
Are you still beating your wife? Are you still beating the kids? Still using dope? All question to lead and deceive the jury. :yes:
Or at a trail when you are being questioned and you're telling the true facts of the case which are just a little different from what you said to the investigators at the actual time of the so called offense. The question, "Are you lying now or were you lying when you first talked with us?"
Two questions of the many questions to make you out a liar and cast doubts on your honesty. Always getting the right person :haha: Just like the 18 people released from life in prison and death penalties in Illinois because of DNA tests proved it wasn't them. They convicted the wrong persons with a shyster prosecutor and a jury of 12 of your "peers". :rant: The judicial system in this country is not a good and honest as we are made to believe. :yes: :rolleyes: :doh:
You are mixing cases. For 2011 the federal conviction rate was at 93%.
A sampling of the state conviction rates ranges between 59% (Florida) to 84% (Texas) for the same year.
Lawyers have a duty incumbent to their position; to prosecute / defend to the best of their ability. They also have a wide range of styles and methods within which they achieve their results.
I would admit that state level prosecutions tend to resemble the bumbling idiocy which their conviction rates would indicate they are. But when the feds come calling with a 93% conviction rate, idiocy is the last thing that comes to mind. . .
Well, if you take a smart enough prosecuitor with no conscience, with the desire to move up in his election and 12 Sheeple jurors he can convict Preperation H of being a mind expand drug. :yes: :biggrin:
Why is everyone so pissed off about Dzhokar Tsarnaev's picture being on the cover of Rolling Stone Magazine?
Here is the image and the preface to the article from the editors:
(http://s10.postimg.org/uzhclp8et/Screen_Shot_2013_07_19_at_12_45_16_AM.jpg)
Our hearts go out to the victims of the Boston Marathon bombing, and our thoughts are always with them and their families. The cover story we are publishing this week falls within the traditions of journalism and Rolling Stone's long-standing commitment to serious and thoughtful coverage of the most important political and cultural issues of our day. The fact that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is young, and in the same age group as many of our readers, makes it all the more important for us to examine the complexities of this issue and gain a more complete understanding of how a tragedy like this happens. –THE EDITORS
I'm not really seeing the reason for everyone being up in arms about it.
Quote from: Locutus on July 19, 2013, 12:50:22 AM
I'm not really seeing the reason for everyone being up in arms about it.
And you won't be able to see it. Why? Because it is coming from the conservative, extremist right, reactionary dimwits. The same bunch that says "don't restrict businesses with encumbering legislation" and "its their business and they have a right to do with it what they want" feels entitled to trash a rock and roll icon based upon their personal emotional challenges, and expect everybody to just fall in lockstep with them. :rolleyes:
I am actually considering subscribing to RS again, just because they had the correct approach to it from a journalistic view. (Plus it should have sold issues to their target audience, and that shouldn't have hurt).
Don't be lumping all conservatives in that group....sure it may be a few wacko, extremists......but I can say THIS conservative can care less what Rolling Stone puts on the front of its cover. As a mater of fact, I would say MOST conservatives can care less. The people protesting are stores such as CVS and Walgreens, who are based out of the New England area. So, it is more personal to them.
I think it is simple, if it offends you, don't buy it....I also respect CVS, if they don't like it, then they don't have to sell it.
Same with the Food Network firing Paula Deen. I think it sucks they did it, but it is THIER company and THEY have to make decisions. For me personally, I quit watching the Food Network.
Quote from: Locutus on July 19, 2013, 12:44:56 AM
Why is everyone so pissed off about Dzhokar Tsarnaev's picture being on the cover of Rolling Stone Magazine?
Everyone isn't. Take a closer look at who is leading the protests. Most of them would be pissed off at anything the Rolling Stone publishes.
Quote from: Bo D on July 19, 2013, 08:50:16 AM
Everyone isn't. Take a closer look at who is leading the protests. Most of them would be pissed off at anything the Rolling Stone publishes.
Exactly. They not only don't read the Rolling Stone, they don't read period. Apparently the RS's first amendment rights aren't as important as their second. Hypocrites.
Quote from: Palehorse on July 19, 2013, 01:00:47 AM
And you won't be able to see it. Why? Because it is coming from the conservative, extremist right, reactionary dimwits.
Really?
Huh..
Boston Mayor Tom Menino (A DEMOCRAT) and Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick (A DEMOCRAT), struck fast, accusing the magazine of offering Tsarnaev "celebrity treatment" and calling the cover "ill-conceived, at best"
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2013, 09:45:45 AM
Really?
Huh..
Boston Mayor Tom Menino (A DEMOCRAT) and Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick (A DEMOCRAT), struck fast, accusing the magazine of offering Tsarnaev "celebrity treatment" and calling the cover "ill-conceived, at best"
There may be a few dimwits among Democrats too.
Quote from: Bo D on July 19, 2013, 10:17:24 AM
There may be a few dimwits among Democrats too.
Thank you sir! ;D :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2013, 10:20:20 AM
Thank you sir! ;D :yes:
Before you get all uppity, I still think most conservatives are dimwits. :wink:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2013, 09:45:45 AM
Really?
Huh..
Boston Mayor Tom Menino (A DEMOCRAT) and Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick (A DEMOCRAT), struck fast, accusing the magazine of offering Tsarnaev "celebrity treatment" and calling the cover "ill-conceived, at best"
Again, I ask why? Why is it "ill-conceived" and how does it give him "celebrity treatment?" I wonder if either of those two actually read the article.
How is that article and picture any different than his picture being on the cover of Time magazine, or USA Today, or any other news medium that's covered that story, or the countless other that will cover it more once his trial rolls around?
Quote from: Bo D on July 19, 2013, 10:17:24 AM
There may be a few dimwits among Democrats too.
Indeed there are!
Quote from: Bo D on July 19, 2013, 10:25:47 AM
Before you get all uppity, I still think most conservatives are dimwits. :wink:
;D
Quote from: Bo D on July 19, 2013, 10:25:47 AM
Before you get all uppity, I still think most conservatives are dimwits. :wink:
Oh, I'm sure you do.....and I would even go along with that many are.......just as MANY dems are.........lets face it, we just flat out have a bunch of dimwits running around. :wink:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2013, 10:30:00 AM
........lets face it, we just flat out have a bunch of dimwits running around. :wink:
Yeah .... and that really scares me when I'm not really pissed off about it.
Quote from: Bo D on July 19, 2013, 10:39:35 AM
Yeah .... and that really scares me when I'm not really pissed off about it.
I feel the exact same way.....I'm pissed, then I calm down.....then it wakes you up in the middle of the night in a sweat. Then get pissed all over again.
I have been listening to music more lately on my way home from work, rather than news and talk radio........I find that I am in a MUCH better mood when I get hom. (I have an hour drive, each way)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2013, 10:43:38 AM
I have been listening to music more lately on my way home from work, rather than news and talk radio........
Good choice. Talk radio makes you stupid, especially conservative talk radio. :biggrin:
Quote from: Bo D on July 19, 2013, 11:12:16 AM
Good choice. Talk radio makes you stupid, especially conservative talk radio. :biggrin:
Hey, sometimes a little Limbaugh puts everything back into perspective.....a voice of reason!
I'm SURE this one is going to go over REAL good.... :razz:
but it's true... ;) :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2013, 11:20:32 AM
Hey, sometimes a little Limbaugh puts everything back into perspective.....a voice of reason!
I'm SURE this one is going to go over REAL good.... :razz:
but it's true... ;) :yes:
:rolleyes:
If you like listening to a pompous, obese, liar, I suppose that could be true.
Quote from: Locutus on July 19, 2013, 11:22:17 AM
:rolleyes:
If you like listening to a pompous, obese, liar, I suppose that could be true.
He may be pompous and he may be obese.....but calling him a liar, makes me think you have sour grapes. He states his opinions very well. He is very entertaining and humorus. I actually rarely listen to him, but when I do, he is usually spot on and makes me laugh too. Have you actually EVER listened to him?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2013, 11:20:32 AM
Hey, sometimes a little Limbaugh puts everything back into perspective.....a voice of reason!
I'm SURE this one is going to go over REAL good.... :razz:
but it's true... ;) :yes:
Hank, Hank, Hank .... I thought for a second, just one tiny little second, that we were going to find a smidgen of common ground.
But, nooooooo. Then you had to go and write something really, really stupid like that. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2013, 11:24:48 AM
He may be pompous and he may be obese.....but calling him a liar, makes me think you have sour grapes. He states his opinions very well. He is very entertaining and humorus. I actually rarely listen to him, but when I do, he is usually spot on and makes me laugh too. Have you actually EVER listened to him?
Limbaugh is a liar ... PERIOD. And his lies are well documented. A word of warning ... don't make me go there.
Damn! Grumpy time is a comin'.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2013, 11:24:48 AM
He may be pompous and he may be obese.....but calling him a liar, makes me think you have sour grapes. He states his opinions very well. He is very entertaining and humorus. I actually rarely listen to him, but when I do, he is usually spot on and makes me laugh too. Have you actually EVER listened to him?
Believe it or not HH, I have listened to him. That's how I know he's a liar. Unlike others, I don't cast blind aspersions without knowing what I'm talking about. :wink:
Quote from: Bo D on July 19, 2013, 11:24:58 AM
Hank, Hank, Hank .... I thought for a second, just one tiny little second, that we were going to find a smidgen of common ground.
But, nooooooo. Then you had to go and write something really, really stupid like that. :rolleyes:
I can't help myself sometimes...........I KNOW the company here..........and I really TRY to fit in.........but I'm a conservative dang it! I gotta tell it like it is.
Okay, going to lunch and I will come back and keep my mouth closed for the rest of the day and play nice.
Quote from: Bo D on July 19, 2013, 11:28:03 AM
Limbaugh is a liar ... PERIOD. And his lies are well documented. A word of warning ... don't make me go there.
Damn! Grumpy time is a comin'.
And even worse, he's aided and abetted in lying to the masses by Clear Channel and his sponsors. :mad:
This is off topic, but there is some really intelligent dialogue on this clip with a touch of racism thrown in for good measure. :rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/v/K-Gfb3cwHIw
Quote from: Bo D on July 19, 2013, 11:12:16 AM
Good choice. Talk radio makes you stupid...
I don't feel that way about NPR.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 19, 2013, 12:21:09 PM
I don't feel that way about NPR.
I seriously doubt that Henry listens to NPR. :biggrin:
Quote from: Bo D on July 19, 2013, 12:23:36 PM
I seriously doubt that Henry listens to NPR. :biggrin:
He's trying to figure out what that is. . .
Quote from: Bo D on July 19, 2013, 12:23:36 PM
I seriously doubt that Henry listens to NPR. :biggrin:
No Storycorps for him! :wink:
Quote from: Bo D on July 19, 2013, 12:23:36 PM
I seriously doubt that Henry listens to NPR. :biggrin:
Aww, but you would be wrong.......90.1 is preset on my radio dial. I listen often, between commercials, I switch around.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2013, 01:16:41 PM
Aww, but you would be wrong.......90.1 is preset on my radio dial. I listen often, between commercials, I switch around.
It's about all I listen to. Sometimes it's nice to just turn the radio off and listen to the rumble of the V8. :wink:
Quote from: Exterminator on July 19, 2013, 01:56:00 PM
It's about all I listen to. Sometimes it's nice to just turn the radio off and listen to the rumble of the V8. :wink:
Have you ever just zoned out on your drive home and all of a sudden......YOUR home!?! I cannot even remember turning off my exit...just pulliing in the drive and BAM! Hey, I'm home.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 19, 2013, 12:25:51 PM
No Storycorps for him! :wink:
Or A Prairie Home Companion
Quote from: Bo D on July 19, 2013, 02:09:04 PM
Or A Prairie Home Companion
Or click and clack!
The verdict in the sentencing phase of the death penalty trial of Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is being read in court.
Sentenced to death on some counts.
Wonder how many appeals he will get before the jerk gets what he deserves.
Quote from: Purplelady1040 on May 15, 2015, 03:57:33 PM
Wonder how many appeals he will get before the jerk gets what he deserves.
Appeals on what grounds? They admitted he did it.
I'll bet they still send him to ADX-Florence in the interim. Timothy McVeigh got the death penalty too, but they held him at the SuperMax until just before his execution.
IIRC, all death sentences in the U.S. receive automatic appeals.
Yep! He will get automatic appeals for sure. I'm just wondering if he'll spend the time while those appeals are ongoing at the SuperMax.
I hope they let bubba take care of him. :icon_twisted: I'm thinkin' I heard he was gonna end up in an Indiana prison....
The one Terre Haute?
I imagine he'll spend his time in isolation for a couple of reasons: 1) IIRC, all of the walking dead are placed in isolation; 2) for his own 'safety' - we can't have anyone else killing him and deprive us of the opportunity. :rolleyes:
Quote from: me on May 15, 2015, 05:13:08 PM
I hope they let bubba take care of him. :icon_twisted: I'm thinkin' I heard he was gonna end up in an Indiana prison....
He'll be in solitary 23 hours a day, and get an hour outside in a block room that is slightly larger than his cell, but no roof.
They'll keep him in supermax until his death sentence appeals are over, then they'll move him to Terra Haute to juice him.
Quote from: me on May 15, 2015, 05:13:08 PM
I hope they let bubba take care of him. :icon_twisted: I'm thinkin' I heard he was gonna end up in an Indiana prison....
Federal death row is at Terre Haute, and he could very well end up there. However, like I said earlier, Timothy McVeigh also got the death penalty, but he spent the years prior to his execution at ADX-Florence because of the nature of his crimes. I suspect the same may be true for Tsarnaev.
Quote from: Palehorse on May 15, 2015, 05:17:21 PM
He'll be in solitary 23 hours a day, and get an hour outside in a block room that is slightly larger than his cell, but no roof.
They'll keep him in supermax until his death sentence appeals are over, then they'll move him to Terra Haute to juice him.
Exactly.
Quote from: Locutus on May 15, 2015, 05:18:11 PM
Exactly.
It would seem, if the media can be believed, (and I by no stretch of the imagination intend to infer any such thing here), that it is likely he will go straight to Terra Haute and await the expiration of his appeals before being juiced.
If am am still sucking air and able-bodied when his juice date arrives, I intend to go to that facility and gather together with whomever else does the same and see that asshole off to whatever damnation he may be sent to after leaving this place. And I will wave a City of Boston Flag and American Flag the whole time.
I thought about doing so when they juiced Timmy, and have regretted not doing so.
I'd serve as a witness to his death if they'd let me.
If it were up to me, I'd have marched his scrawny fucking ass out the door and into the street and served him up a hot lead brain buster right after the verdict.
Most of you know that as a general rule I am NOT in support of the death penalty. I believe it should be abolished due to the ambiguity of our justice system.
But there are times, as many of you have reminded me through the years here, when the egregious nature of what a perp has done, and his/her guilt in said action(s) are beyond question; and this is one of them.
I don't think this nation should spend one red cent in supporting this human trashes existence, beyond the buck it would cost to put some lead in his head.
I know, this statement makes me appear to be the hypocrite I accuse others of being and of which I proclaim hatred thereof.
Myself, I prefer to call this the "exception that proves the rule". . .
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is coming to Terre Haute to await the appeals process and then be killed.
I'll bet he goes to ADX-Florence to await that though.
Quote from: Locutus on June 24, 2015, 06:56:06 PM
I'll bet he goes to ADX-Florence to await that though.
I hope you are right. I do NOT want to be within the same state as that jackhole!
I would like to see him put to death strapped to a chair, his eyes taped open and a pressure cooker bomb in his lap with a lite fuse in it. Put him in the middle of a 100 acre field and then BOOM! :yes: Then let the birds of the air and the beast of the fields eat him. :rant:
Tsarnaev sent to SuperMax. :spooked:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/25/us/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-supermax-prison/index.html
Quote from: Locutus on June 25, 2015, 06:53:53 PM
Tsarnaev sent to SuperMax. :spooked:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/25/us/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-supermax-prison/index.html
Good! :yes:
He'll be glad to take the needle once his appeals are exhausted I would imagine.
Quote from: Locutus on June 25, 2015, 06:57:54 PM
He'll be glad to take the needle once his appeals are exhausted I would imagine.
My guess is he will not make it that long. I predict he finds a way to kill himself in there. . .
I think that's hard to do given the restrictions. It's been done before, however. Someone hung themselves with a bed sheet if I recall correctly.
Quote from: Locutus on June 25, 2015, 07:09:23 PM
I think that's hard to do given the restrictions. It's been done before, however. Someone hung themselves with a bed sheet if I recall correctly.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
Only thing I see to prevent it is the question surrounding whether or not he possesses the courage to be able to do such a thing. I have some doubt surrounding that. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on June 25, 2015, 07:10:57 PM
Where there is a will, there is a way.
Only thing I see to prevent it is the question surrounding whether or not he possesses the courage to be able to do such a thing. I have some doubt surrounding that. . .
Can you imagine how horrifying it must be to walk into that place knowing you'll never get out?
Quote from: Locutus on June 25, 2015, 07:17:13 PM
Can you imagine how horrifying it must be to walk into that place knowing you'll never get out?
I imagine that for some it is a relief for some period of time at first, but as time slowly ticks away it would become a huge burden; especially knowing that each day will be spent in the same place, doing the same things, until you reach your appointed expiration date.
I really think that is what drives some of them to drop all appeals and ask to be juiced forthwith. And it is those exact times that lend credibility to the view that a sentence of "life" under those conditions, truly may be worse than state sponsored execution. Especially for those truly guilty of the transgressions for which they have been convicted.
Quote from: Palehorse on June 25, 2015, 07:24:25 PM
I really think that is what drives some of them to drop all appeals and ask to be juiced forthwith.
Case in point: Timothy McVey
He dropped his appeals and took the needle. He, too, was at the SuperMax.
Quote from: Locutus on June 25, 2015, 07:30:11 PM
Case in point: Timothy McVey
He dropped his appeals and took the needle. He, too, was at the SuperMax.
Yup! :yes:
(CNN)
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, sentenced to death in the Boston Marathon bombings, has been moved to Supermax, the nation's most secure federal prison, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.
He had been held in USP Florence, a separate prison in Florence, Colorado.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/17/us/boston-marathon-bomber-moved-to-supermax/index.html
^^ Took them a bit, but I knew that's where they would put him.
Quote from: Locutus on July 18, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
^^ Took them a bit, but I knew that's where they would put him.
I think they should have taken him out the back door of the court and put a .22 bullet in the back of his head. Dumped him into a trash compactor with a dead hog (pork) and took him to the garbage dump and put tons of trash over his worthless body. :rant:
Quote from: The Troll on July 20, 2015, 02:29:00 PM
I think they should have taken him out the back door of the court and put a .22 bullet in the back of his head. Dumped him into a trash compactor with a dead hog (pork) and took him to the garbage dump and put tons of trash over his worthless body. :rant:
I can see the .22 thing. But the rest of it only punishes his family; and they did nothing to deserve such treatment. . .
That being said, I believe the sentence in SuperMax is a far more egregious punishment than filling his head with lead. It gives him the balance of his life, sitting in a small, windowless cell for all but 1 hour of each day, to reflect upon his crimes.
I'll remind you that a large number of those sentenced to this same punishment, have chosen to end their lives by their own hand rather than endure it. . .
In my view, putting hot lead in his head provides him with a quick out rather than a long stretch of anguishing time within which to suffer.
If your view of what is next is true, (nothing), then what purpose does killing him serve? He doesn't go to hell, or purgatory, or burn in an eternal lake of fire. . .So where's the punishment in that?