Sorry about your luck dumb asses...how would you like your crow?
Quote from: Exterminator on November 06, 2012, 11:20:39 PM
Sorry about your luck dumb asses...how would you like your crow?
:big grin:
Cnn and NBC are both projecting Obama as the winner! :biggrin:
:hamster: OBAMA WINS! :hamster:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 07, 2012, 12:04:07 AM
Cnn and NBC are both projecting Obama as the winner! :biggrin:
Fux News is too. ;D
Trump the rump is spewing hate filled tweets and trying to incite a mob action targeting Washington!
What an asshole! :mad:
Trump is just an idiot.
Today I am proud a Marylander!
Marriage Equality - PASSED!
Dream Act - PASSED!
You should be Olias! Congratulations to Marylanders for getting it right. :yes:
Can you tell I'm a bit sloppy this morning?
"Today I am proud to be a Marylander!"
Late night last night! :biggrin:
Quote from: Olias on November 07, 2012, 10:48:23 AM
Can you tell I'm a bit sloppy this morning?
"Today I am proud to be a Marylander!"
Late night last night! :biggrin:
to be or not to be!!
btw,
This morning SUCKS!
Quote from: Olias on November 07, 2012, 10:48:23 AM
Can you tell I'm a bit sloppy this morning?
"Today I am proud to be a Marylander!"
Late night last night! :biggrin:
I was right there with you. I stayed up until both speeches were over. :yes:
Quote from: Locutus on November 07, 2012, 10:56:35 AM
I was right there with you. I stayed up until both speeches were over. :yes:
I did as well. It was a night to remember, although it is sad to say that it was tempered by the idiotic, conservative, so called "leadership" and their statements that clearly demonstrate we are staring straight down the throat of two more years of obstructionist political tripe from them.
Not to mention their bleating sheep. The results were not even official, nor the speeches given, and my FB page was littered with calls for impeachment of the soon to be president-elect. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 07, 2012, 10:52:47 AM
to be or not to be!!
btw,
This morning SUCKS!
Definitely "to be!"
Sucks for you, not for me.
Quote from: Palehorse on November 07, 2012, 11:03:42 AM
I did as well. It was a night to remember, although it is sad to say that it was tempered by the idiotic, conservative, so called "leadership" and their statements that clearly demonstrate we are staring straight down the throat of two more years of obstructionist political tripe from them.
Not to mention their bleating sheep. The results were not even official, nor the speeches given, and my FB page was littered with calls for impeachment of the soon to be president-elect. :rolleyes:
These self-proclaimed "patriots" are the assholes who cannot see that the people have spoken with their vote -- the very definition of patriotism.
Yet, they deny it by demanding the voice be stilled by a minority who wish a reversal of the decision.
I cannot imagine a deeper definition of hypocrisy fueled by racism.
I can't help but wonder about the next cycle. Who will the Democrats and Republicans put up next time around. Maybe Martin O'Malley vs. Chris Christie (if Limbaugh will allow it.)
???
Quote from: Olias on November 07, 2012, 12:33:29 PM
I can't help but wonder about the next cycle. Who will the Democrats and Republicans put up next time around. Maybe Martin O'Malley vs. Chris Christie (if Limbaugh will allow it.)
???
Right now, Christie is the front-runner.
As long as he doesn't step on his projection.
Quote from: Olias on November 07, 2012, 12:33:29 PM
I can't help but wonder about the next cycle. Who will the Democrats and Republicans put up next time around. Maybe Martin O'Malley vs. Chris Christie (if Limbaugh will allow it.)
???
I think the republicans have several young, talented men and women coming up in the ranks. Chris Christie will be one. There will be Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan and a guy named Robert Dold from Illinois will all be people, in my opinion to keep an eye on.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 07, 2012, 01:01:44 PM
I think the republicans have several young, talented men and women coming up in the ranks. Chris Christie will be one. There will be Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan and a guy named Robert Dold from Illinois will all be people, in my opinion to keep an eye on.
If the Republicans are capable of learning anything from this election, they will NOT allow Paul Ryan to run. His views on women are too extreme. They may as well run Akin and Mourdock.
I actually think O'Malley has a good chance. Most people here in Maryland love him. He has made our schools the very best in the country for the past several years in a row.
Besides, he has his own band and plays guitar. :biggrin:
Obama really won, Maddow said. "And he really was born in Hawaii, and he really is legitimately President of the United States, again, and the Bureau of Labor Statistics did not make up a fake unemployment rate last month, and the Congressional Research Service really can find no evidence that cutting taxes on rich people grows the economy, and the polls were not screwed to oversample Democrats, and Nate Silver was not making up fake projections about the election to make conservatives feel bad, Nate Silver was doing math, and climate change is real, and rape really does cause pregnancy sometimes, and evolution is a thing, and Benghazi was an attack on us, it was not a scandal by us, and nobody is taking away anyone's guns, and taxes have not gone up, and the deficit is dropping, actually, and Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, and the moon landing was real, and FEMA is not building concentration camps, and you UN election observers are not taking over Texas, and moderate reforms of the regulations on the insurance industry and the financial services industry in this country are not the same thing as communism."
:biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 08, 2012, 01:17:07 PM
Obama really won, Maddow said. "And he really was born in Hawaii, and he really is legitimately President of the United States, again, and the Bureau of Labor Statistics did not make up a fake unemployment rate last month, and the Congressional Research Service really can find no evidence that cutting taxes on rich people grows the economy, and the polls were not screwed to oversample Democrats, and Nate Silver was not making up fake projections about the election to make conservatives feel bad, Nate Silver was doing math, and climate change is real, and rape really does cause pregnancy sometimes, and evolution is a thing, and Benghazi was an attack on us, it was not a scandal by us, and nobody is taking away anyone's guns, and taxes have not gone up, and the deficit is dropping, actually, and Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, and the moon landing was real, and FEMA is not building concentration camps, and you UN election observers are not taking over Texas, and moderate reforms of the regulations on the insurance industry and the financial services industry in this country are not the same thing as communism."
:biggrin:
^^ Bingo! That ties in nicely to what I posted on the TUZ Lie Tracker thread. Where do most of those fallacies originate? None other than Fox News. :wink:
Quote from: Locutus on November 08, 2012, 01:27:42 PM
^^ Bingo! That ties in nicely to what I posted on the TUZ Lie Tracker thread. Where do most of those fallacies originate? None other than Fox News. :wink:
Indeed! :yes:
Quote from: Exterminator on November 06, 2012, 11:20:39 PM
Sorry about your luck dumb asses...how would you like your crow?
I just hope you're not sorry 'bout your luck smart ass.
Quote from: me on November 08, 2012, 08:16:51 PM
I just hope you're not sorry 'bout your luck smart ass.
I'm sure I won't be, you sad, biitter, old crow. Unlike you, I don't hold the majority of my fellow citizens in contempt, I don't believe that most people would rather sponge off of the government than feel the pride that comes from working to obtain their goals (a foreign concept to you, I'm sure), and I believe that Americans are, first and foremost, benevolent people who steadfastly believe that we all benefit when everyone has a chance at the American dream.
Quote from: Exterminator on November 08, 2012, 10:23:53 PM
I'm sure I won't be, you sad, biitter, old crow. Unlike you, I don't hold the majority of my fellow citizens in contempt, I don't believe that most people would rather sponge off of the government than feel the pride that comes from working to obtain their goals (a foreign concept to you, I'm sure), and I believe that Americans are, first and foremost, benevolent people who steadfastly believe that we all benefit when everyone has a chance at the American dream.
Ya know I had a response all typed out but you're not worth it. I will say though that I am neither sad nor bitter. I have nothing to be sad or bitter about.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 07, 2012, 01:01:44 PM
I think the republicans have several young, talented men and women coming up in the ranks. Chris Christie will be one. There will be Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan and a guy named Robert Dold from Illinois will all be people, in my opinion to keep an eye on.
One only need look into any current hitler youth movement to find the next republican, tea-bagging, leader!
This is telling right here:
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Quote from: Locutus on November 09, 2012, 12:44:50 PM
This is telling right here:
Funny how that works out; huh?
and if you looked up the states with the most welfare handouts and you would see 13 out of 15 that was blue states....
http://www.cnbc.com/id/31910310?slide=15 (http://www.cnbc.com/id/31910310?slide=15)
Hey, I just noticed something locutus, your source is from FoxBusiness so it CAN'T be right, can it? :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 09, 2012, 01:53:23 PM
and if you looked up the states with the most welfare handouts and you would see 13 out of 15 that was blue states....
http://www.cnbc.com/id/31910310?slide=15 (http://www.cnbc.com/id/31910310?slide=15)
Hey, I just noticed something locutus, your source is from FoxBusiness so it CAN'T be right, can it? :razz:
I watch Fox sometimes. I always like to know what they're up to. Watching Turd Blossom melt completely down on election night was particularly entertaining.
Quote from: Locutus on November 09, 2012, 02:01:22 PM
I watch Fox sometimes. I always like to know what they're up to. Watching Turd Blossom melt completely down on election night was particularly entertaining.
Okay, I gotta ask, who is Turd Blossom? Hey, I was looking forward to watching MSNBC, in the event Romney won, to watch the complete breakdown of Chris Matthews.........that would have been entertainment.
"Turd blossom" is a Texan term for a flower which grows from a pile of cow dung.[1] As Turd Blossom, the term has gained notoriety in the United States as a sobriquet that was reportedly assigned by former U.S. President George W. Bush as a term of endearment for his former chief political advisor, Karl Rove.[2]
:wink:
Karl WAS having a tough time Tuesday night. I watched several stations....I flipped Fox, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS....
Huh, never knew Turd Blossom was Karl Rove..........and NOW, I KNOW! :yes:
I still have a huge burr up my ass with Dick Morris.........I always found him to be interesting. He has been around, and knows a lot about the political world.......but,doesn't know crap about polls.
I am through with that guy. He blew it with me. :mad:
Dick Morris is just that.....a dick. :yes:
Quote from: Locutus on November 09, 2012, 02:01:22 PM
I watch Fox sometimes. I always like to know what they're up to. Watching Turd Blossom melt completely down on election night was particularly entertaining.
I watch Fox sometimes for the same reason. I try to catch Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace -- especially enjoy it when Juan Williams is there to stir things up. As for Carl Rove, I went to bed after Obama was declared the winner and didn't see his election night meltdown, but the next day I actually felt embarrassed for him as he was being interviewed by an attractive definitely not dumb blonde Fox newscaster who kept asking him what went wrong -- and he kept going back to criticizing Obama.
Quote from: libby on November 09, 2012, 05:35:07 PM
I watch Fox sometimes for the same reason. I try to catch Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace -- especially enjoy it when Juan Williams is there to stir things up. As for Carl Rove, I went to bed after Obama was declared the winner and didn't see his election night meltdown, but the next day I actually felt embarrassed for him as he was being interviewed by an attractive definitely not dumb blonde Fox newscaster who kept asking him what went wrong -- and he kept going back to criticizing Obama.
The meltdown was hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/v/eQLV7nqD3CA
:lol:Thanks for posting that, Locutus.
You're welcome. He just didn't want to admit it. The mighty Turd Blossom was wrong. ;D
Quote from: Locutus on November 11, 2012, 03:16:17 PM
You're welcome. He just didn't want to admit it. The mighty Turd Blossom was wrong. ;D
You know that Karl Rove has to be a real suck ass. Nobody, including the president of the United States would call me TURD BLOSSOM! Period. :trustme:
Quote from: The Troll on November 12, 2012, 12:00:45 PM
You know that Karl Rove has to be a real suck ass. Nobody, including the president of the United States would call me TURD BLOSSOM! Period. :trustme:
:rotfl:
In order for Rove to appear in public alone, Bush had to have an ass-otomy for removal of a Rove-lamprey.
Quote from: followsthewolf on November 12, 2012, 03:51:39 PM
In order for Rove to appear in public alone, Bush had to have an ass-otomy for removal of a Rove-lamprey.
;D
LMFAO!! Check out this realtime tracker of how many 'friends' Romney is losing on social media in real time. ;D
http://disappearingromney.com
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 09, 2012, 02:31:32 PM
Karl WAS having a tough time Tuesday night. I watched several stations....I flipped Fox, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS....
Huh, never knew Turd Blossom was Karl Rove..........and NOW, I KNOW! :yes:
I still have a huge burr up my ass with Dick Morris.........I always found him to be interesting. He has been around, and knows a lot about the political world.......but,doesn't know crap about polls.
I am through with that guy. He blew it with me. :mad:
Henry see what you miss when you don't watch anything but Fox News. Rush, Hannity, O'Riley, The Fox Morning Show never use the name TURD BLOSSOM. George W. call Karl that since he was a governor in Texas. :doh: You need to wake up Boy. :choo: :choo:
Ya know, when I got this in an email I wondered about it but wasn't sure, well now I am.
http://www.snopes.com/media/goofs/election.asp
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Claim: Two television stations aired 2012 election "results" early.
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Origins: The effort to keep apace with the modern 24/7 news cycle can at times cause news outlets to goof. Such was the case with a couple of news stations that in mid-October 2012 inadvertently publicly broadcast graphics they believed they were merely testing in-house.
Normally, such mistakes are merely chuckled over before being dismissed in favor of the real news of the day. However, the nature of what was broadcast by each of those two stations made at least a few people wonder if the fix wasn't in for a particular candidate because each displayed results for the 2012 presidential election, an event then over two weeks away.
Election results
The first to do so was KPHO, the CBS affiliate in Phoenix, Arizona. On 19 October 2012, those watching The People's Court saw for 17 seconds a graphic at the bottom of the screen which stated President Barack Obama had been re-elected, winning 43% of the vote nationwide to Govenor Mitt Romney's 40%. (The graphic did not account for the other 17%.)
Ed Munson, KPHO's General Manager, said of the occurrence:
On Friday, Oct. 19, during a test of KPHO CBS 5's election returns software, we inadvertently aired a test graphic for about 15 seconds in an episode of Peoples Court. The mistake was caught quickly and taken off the screen. With the election about two weeks away, the TV station routinely tests its equipment to ensure our viewers have the very latest results on election night. We regret the error and apologize to any viewer who was confused by the mistake.
The second station to err in similar fashion was WCPO, the ABC affiliate in Cincinnati, Ohio. Also on 19 October 2012, it mistakenly aired a graphic intended for in-house testing, one that announced President Obama had won in Ohio by a 46% to 39% margin. (The Indiana graphic was an exact copy of the Ohio one, save for the name of the state.)
Ohio election results
As with KPHO, WCPO didn't have the inside track on whom the voters will favor, let alone by how much. Both instances were attributable to station error.
Even so, it will be interesting to compare the "results" broadcast over two weeks earlier with the actual 2012 returns.
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Quote from: me on November 13, 2012, 08:44:33 AM
Ya know, when I got this in an email I wondered about it but wasn't sure, well now I am.
http://www.snopes.com/media/goofs/election.asp
BFD! :rolleyes:
She has no idea how to evaluate even simple research.
Her opinions are so hair-brained that it's nearly impossible to understand any point in her post.
Not worth the work to unscramble the egg.
No wonder an attempt to organize a business was doomed to ultimate failure.
Quote from: followsthewolf on November 13, 2012, 12:11:14 PM
She has no idea how to evaluate even simple research.
Her opinions are so hair-brained that it's nearly impossible to understand any point in her post.
Not worth the work to unscramble the egg.
No wonder an attempt to organize a business was doomed to ultimate failure.
Running your life on emails you get from the internet is like running your life with a crystal ball. :kooks: :repub:
Quote from: Olias on November 13, 2012, 09:05:27 AM
BFD! :rolleyes:
Would you have said that had it been Bush or Romney it turned out to be true about?
Quote from: The Troll on November 13, 2012, 01:57:55 PM
Running your life on emails you get from the internet is like running your life with a crystal ball. :kooks: :repub:
That was a confirmation from Snopes that it was true Turd Blossom. :razz:
Quote from: followsthewolf on November 13, 2012, 12:11:14 PM
She has no idea how to evaluate even simple research.
Her opinions are so hair-brained that it's nearly impossible to understand any point in her post.
Not worth the work to unscramble the egg.
No wonder an attempt to organize a business was doomed to ultimate failure.
I know how you would evaluate it if it had been Romney rather than Obama.
Quote from: me on November 13, 2012, 02:31:39 PM
Would you have said that had it been Bush or Romney it turned out to be true about?
Again. BFD
And, of course, THAT is exactly what she does not understand, and, sadly, never will.
Couldn't pass a simple undergrad logic class.
Quote from: me on November 13, 2012, 02:33:01 PM
That was a confirmation from Snopes that it was true Turd Blossom. :razz:
OK, OK, I'm Turd Blossom and you are Shit Head. :biggrin: Fair is fair Shit Head. :kiss:
Quote from: Olias on November 13, 2012, 03:36:02 PM
Again. BFD
You're being quite succinct today. ;D :yes:
So now all of a sudden Snopes isn't a good source for checking on things. Ya know if it were a test of equipment it could have been done with generic names so don't even go there. Ya'll get more ridiculous everyday.
Quote from: me on November 13, 2012, 07:36:32 PM
So now all of a sudden Snopes isn't a good source for checking on things. Ya know if it were a test of equipment it could have been done with generic names so don't even go there. Ya'll get more ridiculous everyday.
I assume you have some conspiracy theory to put forth based on the accidental airing of the test? If so, state it rather than beating around the bush. :rolleyes:
Quote from: me on November 13, 2012, 07:36:32 PM
So now all of a sudden Snopes isn't a good source for checking on things. Ya know if it were a test of equipment it could have been done with generic names so don't even go there. Ya'll get more ridiculous everyday.
:blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: and :blah: :grin2: Old Red. :gorgeous:
Quote from: me on November 13, 2012, 07:36:32 PM
So now all of a sudden Snopes isn't a good source for checking on things. Ya know if it were a test of equipment it could have been done with generic names so don't even go there. Ya'll get more ridiculous everyday.
Ya dumb ass. All Snopes did was to fact check what happened. They reported the facts.
If anything, Snopes proved itself to be an independent fact checker.
Snopes is not responsible for some technician's choice of names and percentages.
Other pundits hit it right on the nose with the same predictions.
What the hell is wrong with your wiring.
I shouldn't even be explaining this to you -- if you had a brain that worked, you would have understood it for yourself.
Quote from: followsthewolf on November 13, 2012, 09:42:28 PM
Ya dumb ass. All Snopes did was to fact check what happened. They reported the facts.
If anything, Snopes proved itself to be an independent fact checker.
Snopes is not responsible for some technician's choice of names and percentages.
Other pundits hit it right on the nose with the same predictions.
What the hell is wrong with your wiring.
I shouldn't even be explaining this to you -- if you had a brain that worked, you would have understood it for yourself.
Yes. Exactly!
Quote from: followsthewolf on November 13, 2012, 09:42:28 PM
Ya dumb ass. All Snopes did was to fact check what happened. They reported the facts.
If anything, Snopes proved itself to be an independent fact checker.
Snopes is not responsible for some technician's choice of names and percentages.
Other pundits hit it right on the nose with the same predictions.
What the hell is wrong with your wiring.
I shouldn't even be explaining this to you -- if you had a brain that worked, you would have understood it for yourself.
And you'd be whining like mad if it had been the other way around and you know it so quit trying to make excuses for obvious favoritism by the media.
Quote from: Locutus on November 13, 2012, 07:23:24 PM
You're being quite succinct today. ;D :yes:
Don't have time to waste on idiots. But I can't resist the temptation to speak out either.
WTF?
Quote from: Exterminator on November 14, 2012, 09:38:12 AM
WTF?
I understand your concern. But Locutus was commenting on my short answers to 'me.' I hope he understands also.
I meant WTF as in why does it matter that some station somewhere inadvertently aired an election result test weeks before the actual election. Is she suggesting that it somehow changed the results of the election?
Quote from: Exterminator on November 14, 2012, 10:33:26 AM
I meant WTF as in why does it matter that some station somewhere inadvertently aired an election result test weeks before the actual election. Is she suggesting that it somehow changed the results of the election?
That too. :biggrin:
There must be some part of, "get over it," that's hard to understand. :biggrin:
Exactly why I used the terms "stupid," "irrelevant," and "dumb ass."
In my non-internet life, it is an extremely rare situation when I use even one of those terms.
But then, I rarely encounter such a deliberately obtuse individual.
Here we go. . . Now the previous loser, McCain, is on TV trying to hold the POTUS's feet to the fire over Benghazi. . .
These MF'rs have to be mentally deranged! :rant:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 14, 2012, 11:37:34 AM
Here we go. . . Now the previous loser, McCain, is on TV trying to hold the POTUS's feet to the fire over Benghazi. . .
These MF'rs have to be mentally deranged! :rant:
After George W. Bush, Dick Cheney with the help of John McCain kill 5,000 of our young men and women in two Wars they started. He wants to make a false investigation of just 4 guys killed in Benghazi by a group of Muslim terrorist which we have no control of. Old Crazy John who destroyed 3 multimillion dollar jet aircraft has brain damage from the crashes. He need to retire and just plain shut-up. The stupid asshole. :rant:
Quote from: The Troll on November 14, 2012, 12:33:37 PM
After George W. Bush, Dick Cheney with the help of John McCain kill 5,000 of our young men and women in two Wars they started. He wants to make a false investigation of just 4 guys killed in Benghazi by a group of Muslim terrorist which we have no control of. Old Crazy John who destroyed 3 multimillion dollar jet aircraft has brain damage from the crashes. He need to retire and just plain shut-up. The stupid asshole. :rant:
I STRONGLY suggest these jack-wagons in congress get busy figuring out how to avoid the fiscal cliff they imposed upon this nation, instead of creating a tsunami of bullshit with which to divert our attention from it. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 14, 2012, 12:40:16 PM
I STRONGLY suggest these jack-wagons in congress get busy figuring out how to avoid the fiscal cliff they imposed upon this nation, instead of creating a tsunami of bullshit with which to divert our attention from it. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Obama is the POTUS, he needs to step up and start this ball rolling. It is up to him, to start negotiating. IMO. I know he has a press conference today....we will see if he is STILL planning on shoving down the trillion $$ tax hikes. That is NOT going to go over with Congress and he knows it.
When reality strikes, I suspect that the republicans will cave, as this republican is hinting at ....
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie may have to reconsider his plan for an across-the-board income tax cut if Hurricane Sandy does enough damage to the state's revenue stream.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/13/christie-could-reconsider-tax-cut-proposal-if-sandy-wrecks-budget/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/13/christie-could-reconsider-tax-cut-proposal-if-sandy-wrecks-budget/)
Quote from: Palehorse on November 14, 2012, 11:37:34 AM
Here we go. . . Now the previous loser, McCain, is on TV trying to hold the POTUS's feet to the fire over Benghazi. . .
These MF'rs have to be mentally deranged! :rant:
Gotta get a shot in for the GOP support -- so he doesn't become "irrelevant," too.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 12:49:55 PM
Obama is the POTUS, he needs to step up and start this ball rolling. It is up to him, to start negotiating. IMO. I know he has a press conference today....we will see if he is STILL planning on shoving down the trillion $$ tax hikes. That is NOT going to go over with Congress and he knows it.
The price of steel, iron, concrete, diesel fuel, gasoline, wood, plywood, rebar, electical wire and gear, big construction equipment and machines. Every thing has gone up in this world. And you Henry and The Republican Party wants to cut taxes. :rant:
How in hell can we keep America great if we don't have any money to keep it great. :yes: These great capitalist business didn't pay a single dime to build this line. They didn't build one damn thing without being paid for it. :yes: The taxpayers paid for all of it. :dam: And you want to cuts the taxes on the fat ass hogs that are feeding on the cream of this country. :@#%&:
And you think the prices aren't going to go even higher if they raise taxes on large corporations? Who do you think will suffer most in the long run?
Quote from: The Troll on November 14, 2012, 05:36:05 PM
The price of steel, iron, concrete, diesel fuel, gasoline, wood, plywood, rebar, electical wire and gear, big construction equipment and machines. Every thing has gone up in this world. And you Henry and The Republican Party wants to cut taxes. :rant:
How in hell can we keep America great if we don't have any money to keep it great. :yes: These great capitalist business didn't pay a single dime to build this line. They didn't build one damn thing without being paid for it. :yes: The taxpayers paid for all of it. :dam: And you want to cuts the taxes on the fat ass hogs that are feeding on the cream of this country. :@#%&:
So your idea of a sound government is for them to redistribute the money ..... from each according to their ability; to each according to their need? Is that what you are saying?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 12:49:55 PM
It is up to him, to start negotiating.
In case you didn't notice, the country chose him, again, to be the President Of The United States. Maybe the people who need to start negotiating are the people that lost that election. Just sayin'...
Quote from: Exterminator on November 14, 2012, 06:40:06 PM
In case you didn't notice, the country chose him, again, to be the President Of The United States. Maybe the people who need to start negotiating are the people that lost that election. Just sayin'...
but he is the leader and really NEEDS the house to cooperate ... if things go south........it will be on Obama's shoulders.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 10:03:48 PM
but he is the leader and really NEEDS the house to cooperate ... if things go south........it will be on Obama's shoulders.
This time Skippy it's on your and Republican Party's shoulders. Keep it up and you'll have all of the women, Latino, Black and all of the working white men voting against the Republican Party and Hillery Clinton will be a shoe in for the first Democrat and first woman American President. And oh how I will love it. :haha: :haha: :haha:
You CLOWNS just don't get it. Just keep the trouble making, all of your filibusters and your war on women Clown. :haha: :haha: I look for no change from the Republican Party until 2014 election when the Democrats take a massive takeover of both house of Congress. :yes: And then guess what happens to you CLOWNS. :rant: :trustme:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 10:03:48 PM
but he is the leader and really NEEDS the house to cooperate ... if things go south........it will be on Obama's shoulders.
Nope! If your douchebags keep their shit up, Obama is going to be rewarded with a democratic house for the mid-terms. The people have spoken and you aren't one of them.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 10:03:48 PM
but he is the leader and really NEEDS the house to cooperate ... if things go south........it will be on Obama's shoulders.
It doesn't appear that the majority thinks so.
http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/13/15141771-poll-if-government-careens-off-fiscal-cliff-gop-to-shoulder-blame?lite
:wink:
Republicans are really in no position right about now to demand anything. The party leaders know it too.
Excerpts:
If the U.S. government ends up careening off the "fiscal cliff," Republicans in Congress stand to shoulder most of the blame, according to a new poll released Tuesday."
"Fifty-three percent of Americans said Republicans in Congress would be more to blame in that instance, according to a Pew Research Center poll conducted in the days following the election. Twenty-nine percent said that Obama would be more to blame, while 10 percent said both the president and Republicans would share blame."
Quote from: Exterminator on November 14, 2012, 10:53:26 PM
Nope! If your douchebags keep their shit up, Obama is going to be rewarded with a democratic house for the mid-terms. The people have spoken and you aren't one of them.
That is what you thought 4-years ago.........then in 2010, the people spoke and gave us control of the House. The house was hired by their constituents to a job........not to roll over and give in to everything the dems want. You lost the house; get over it.
I had to work that in ..... :razz:
Time will tell...but we have two years to argue about it before you'll have to eat crow again. :biggrin:
Quote from: Exterminator on November 15, 2012, 08:53:14 AM
Time will tell...but we have two years to argue about it before you'll have to eat crow again. :biggrin:
and that is some NASTY TASTIN' sh!t!! :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 15, 2012, 09:08:31 AM
and that is some NASTY TASTIN' sh!t!! :yes:
You might as well get use to it, crow is going to be the main meat in your diet Skippy. :grin2: CAW, CAW, CAW, CROAK Froggy. :frog:
Quote from: The Troll on November 15, 2012, 11:06:15 AM
You might as well get use to it, crow is going to be the main meat in your diet Skippy.
Not if he crosses over to the winning team! :icon_twisted:
Quote from: Exterminator on November 15, 2012, 11:29:46 AM
Not if he crosses over to the winning team! :icon_twisted:
I am not inclined to accept scrubs. . . :wink:
Quote from: Exterminator on November 15, 2012, 11:29:46 AM
Not if he crosses over to the winning team! :icon_twisted:
Cancel that, you have to be a human being with some compassion to be a Democrat. A piece of coal for a heart won't get it. :no: :rant:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 06:31:07 PM
So your idea of a sound government is for them to redistribute the money ..... from each according to their ability; to each according to their need? Is that what you are saying?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2012, 09:19:06 AM
Yes Henry, you should pay taxes according to your ability to pay taxes. Yes Henry, a millionaire and a billionaire should be made to pay more taxes than you. More than you pay on the money from that pathetic scab job. Henry, why do you spend your time defending the super rich when you're only 6 months away from bankruptcy if you lost all of your income. :doh: I know you don't have much in retirement account to live, if you would retire. :haha: :haha: You just don't know what side your bread is buttered on and :wink: like the super rich assholes gives a damn what happens to you and the people you just happen to love. :jester: Long live Sheeple Henry. :haha:
Quote from: The Troll on November 16, 2012, 09:49:22 AM
Yes Henry, you should pay taxes according to your ability to pay taxes. Yes Henry, a millionaire and a billionaire should be made to pay more taxes than you.
They DO pay more taxes that you and I.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2012, 09:51:16 AM
They DO pay more taxes that you and I.
Not as a percentage of their income.
Quote from: Exterminator on November 16, 2012, 10:45:08 AM
Not as a percentage of their income.
Well if we would get rid of the loopholes as the republicans are asking they would pay more as a percentage.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2012, 11:12:58 AM
Well if we would get rid of the loopholes as the republicans are asking they would pay more as a percentage.
So would you if you are paying for a house, paying for daycare, getting a deduction for health care premiums, etc. etc.
From CNN: (http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/15/opinion/waldman-romney-comments/index.html?hpt=hp_t3) "It took until the presidential campaign was over, but Mitt Romney finally figured out the sinister plan Barack Obama executed to win re-election. Here's how it worked: During his first term, Obama craftily carried out policies that helped improve Americans' lives, thereby tricking them into voting to re-elect him. Diabolical! :biggrin:
Quote from: Exterminator on November 16, 2012, 01:22:58 PM
From CNN: (http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/15/opinion/waldman-romney-comments/index.html?hpt=hp_t3) "It took until the presidential campaign was over, but Mitt Romney finally figured out the sinister plan Barack Obama executed to win re-election. Here's how it worked: During his first term, Obama craftily carried out policies that helped improve Americans' lives, thereby tricking them into voting to re-elect him. Diabolical! :biggrin:
yeah, by adding another 23 million to the food stamp program.......GREAT POLICY!
I know college kids who are now getting FOOD STAMPS! what it up with that?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2012, 01:28:03 PM
yeah, by adding another 23 million to the food stamp program.......GREAT POLICY!
That's like a cup full of water in Lake Michigan compared to the hundreds of billions Bush spent on two unnecessary wars that accomplished nothing but really? Do you think that's what did it for him? Of course, those people wouldn't have needed food stamps if your guy hadn't crashed the economy.
QuoteI know college kids who are now getting FOOD STAMPS! what it up with that?
Uh, don't you have a kid in college living off of the government?
Quote from: Exterminator on November 16, 2012, 01:44:34 PM
That's like a cup full of water in Lake Michigan compared to the hundreds of billions Bush spent on two unnecessary wars that accomplished nothing but really? Do you think that's what did it for him? Of course, those people wouldn't have needed food stamps if your guy hadn't crashed the economy.
blah, blah, blah...you mean if the democrat controlled congress would not have FORCED bad loans to be made.....the economy hadn't crashed.......
Quote from: Exterminator on November 16, 2012, 01:44:34 PMUh, don't you have a kid in college living off of the government?
NOPE! He graduated........served time in the Military. NEVER got any food stamps.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2012, 01:54:27 PM
blah, blah, blah...you mean if the democrat controlled congress would not have FORCED bad loans to be made.....the economy hadn't crashed.......
That's a good story but it isn't true.
QuoteNOPE! He graduated........served time in the Military. NEVER got any food stamps.
He must've had the shortest enlistment ever if he's out already?
I don't mean to cry poor, but I sure wish I'd have had food stamps in my undergrad days.
I came from a home that did not have running water in it.
Ate bread sticks that I stole from restaurants in the area.
Went back later and paid for my bread sticks (and other assorted foodstuffs that I stole), only to find out that the waitresses knew I what I was doing all along.
I was so ashamed.
Gave the owner what I thought I had stolen, and he said he really didn't care; that we (obviously, there were others) would eventually do enough good in the world that, for him, it was an investment in the future.
That man taught me the difference between a greedy, nothing-is-enough owner, and a caring, thoughtful businessman.
A bunch of us got together and made sure he was able to retire and take care of his family.
Amazing man.
That is a very cool story FTW! :yes: 8)
Sounds like he did some ROTC and bailed.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2012, 01:54:27 PM
blah, blah, blah...you mean if the democrat controlled congress would not have FORCED bad loans to be made.....the economy hadn't crashed.......
NOPE! He graduated........served time in the Military. NEVER got any food stamps.
Your boy is now one of the biggest Socialist you have in your family Henry. :yes: Every damn thing he has got, wages, food, clothes, where he lives, medical, dental, college, everything he buys all paid by the taxpayers of the United States and all he has to to is to show up to his desk job. :rotfl: Right Henry: :rotfl: :rotfl: You just got to love these phony bastards Republicans. :haha:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2012, 02:04:58 PM
That is a very cool story FTW! :yes: 8)
That was a long, long time ago.
One of those things that shapes your attitudes for the rest of your life.
That guy helped a huge number of us dirt-poor scholarship-barely-paying-half-the-bills college kids, and we never knew it until later.
Helluva guy. Stayed in contact with him and his family for years, until he and his wife both died.
and THAT is the way it is supposed to work.......People taking care of people. I love it. :yes:
Then why don't those who have made millions in a business think the same way?
He obviously didn't have millions, but he helped others anyway.
Imagine if all the corporate raiders, the fat cat CEO's and CFO's, etc. combined their efforts.
There's only one answer as to why they don't.
Greed and ego.
More toys, more homes, more one-up-man-ship at the club.
Quote from: followsthewolf on November 16, 2012, 03:23:49 PM
Then why don't those who have made millions in a business think the same way?
He obviously didn't have millions, but he helped others anyway.
Imagine if all the corporate raiders, the fat cat CEO's and CFO's, etc. combined their efforts.
There's only one answer as to why they don't.
Greed and ego.
More toys, more homes, more one-up-man-ship at the club.
who says they don't FTW? I would bet that many of those "rich" owners and stock holders are very generous....You have no idea if they are selfish or giving....just because they are affiliated with a corporation does not mean they are evil.
Many of them are great philanthropists -
William Barron Hilton, co-chairman of the Hilton hotel chain who pledged late last year to give away 97% of his wealth—some $1.7 billion—to his family's humanitarian foundation
George Kaiser - CEO of BOK Finanial, from 2004-08 gave $2,377 million to charities...
Waltons - the world's richest family is also one of the most united when it comes to philanthropy. The secretive Waltons commit the bulk of their gifts through the Walton Family Foundation, which supports a variety of charitable causes.
The evil David Kock - gives around $100 million every YEAR for some cause....a couple of years ago he gave $100 million to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology to fund cancer research...he gave over $400 million from 2004 - 2008 to charitable causes.
Home Depot founder Bernard Marcus gave $290 million to the Marcus Institute for children with disabilities and learning disorders, Autism Speaks (a national autism organization), and a state-of-the-art bioterrorism unit at the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention.
These guys do not HAVE to do this........but they do.
But it seems like as long as it is federal workers, everything is fine......Despite nearly $16 billion in annual losses announced by the Postal Sevice on Thursday, all but one of the top five executives for the nations mail service had an overall compensation increase this year...Postmaster General Donahoe, for instance, earned a base salary of $276,840, but even without a bonus or incentive payout, his overall compensation came to $512,093, compared with $384,229 in 2011, according to regulatory filings...
Now THAT is greedy bastards.......using the peoples money. :rant:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2012, 03:45:24 PM
who says they don't FTW? I would bet that many of those "rich" owners and stock holders are very generous....You have no idea if they are selfish or giving....just because they are affiliated with a corporation does not mean they are evil.
Many of them are great philanthropists -
William Barron Hilton, co-chairman of the Hilton hotel chain who pledged late last year to give away 97% of his wealth—some $1.7 billion—to his family's humanitarian foundation
George Kaiser - CEO of BOK Finanial, from 2004-08 gave $2,377 million to charities...
Waltons - the world's richest family is also one of the most united when it comes to philanthropy. The secretive Waltons commit the bulk of their gifts through the Walton Family Foundation, which supports a variety of charitable causes.
The evil David Kock - gives around $100 million every YEAR for some cause....a couple of years ago he gave $100 million to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology to fund cancer research...he gave over $400 million from 2004 - 2008 to charitable causes.
Home Depot founder Bernard Marcus gave $290 million to the Marcus Institute for children with disabilities and learning disorders, Autism Speaks (a national autism organization), and a state-of-the-art bioterrorism unit at the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention.
These guys do not HAVE to do this........but they do.
Henry was as it David or was it Charles Kock that gave his door man at his multimillion appartment in New York City $50 for Christmas. Old Scrooge at work. :mad: :rant:
Quote from: The Troll on November 16, 2012, 05:48:54 PM
Henry was as it David or was it Charles Kock that gave his door man at his multimillion appartment in New York City $50 for Christmas. Old Scrooge at work. :mad: :rant:
Check and see if there is a sales tax on real estate in NY before you jump to conclusions Troll. He may have had to charge him $50 to keep him from having to pay that or a gift tax on the actual amount the real estate was worth.
Quote from: me on November 16, 2012, 06:17:01 PM
Check and see if there is a sales tax on real estate in NY before you jump to conclusions Troll. He may have had to charge him $50 to keep him from having to pay that or a gift tax on the actual amount the real estate was worth.
Huh? You have lost a screw. :wacko: Will anyone on here tell me what the Wacko :wacko: :kooks: said? :choo: :choo: :choo: :choo:
Quote from: followsthewolf on November 16, 2012, 02:02:15 PM
I don't mean to cry poor, but I sure wish I'd have had food stamps in my undergrad days.
I came from a home that did not have running water in it.
Ate bread sticks that I stole from restaurants in the area.
Went back later and paid for my bread sticks (and other assorted foodstuffs that I stole), only to find out that the waitresses knew I what I was doing all along.
I was so ashamed.
Gave the owner what I thought I had stolen, and he said he really didn't care; that we (obviously, there were others) would eventually do enough good in the world that, for him, it was an investment in the future.
That man taught me the difference between a greedy, nothing-is-enough owner, and a caring, thoughtful businessman.
A bunch of us got together and made sure he was able to retire and take care of his family.
Amazing man.
:yes: I can relate to your story. There are good people everywhere. When my father was dying of cancer and my mother had to apply for welfare, I was working at the local hospital and taking college classes part time, and helping my mother take care of him. My boss, a doctor, said the hospital didn't pay me enough to live on so used to hand me money out of his own pocket. I didn't want to take it (too proud) but did because I needed it. And the local pharmacist who filled my father's pain and other medication prescriptions charged me the bare minimum, told me I could pay a few dollars a month but if I couldn't afford that, not to worry about it. I am who, what I am today because of the kindness and generosity of those dear men and others like them.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2012, 03:45:24 PM
who says they don't FTW? I would bet that many of those "rich" owners and stock holders are very generous....You have no idea if they are selfish or giving....just because they are affiliated with a corporation does not mean they are evil.
Many of them are great philanthropists -
William Barron Hilton, co-chairman of the Hilton hotel chain who pledged late last year to give away 97% of his wealth—some $1.7 billion—to his family's humanitarian foundation
George Kaiser - CEO of BOK Finanial, from 2004-08 gave $2,377 million to charities...
Waltons - the world's richest family is also one of the most united when it comes to philanthropy. The secretive Waltons commit the bulk of their gifts through the Walton Family Foundation, which supports a variety of charitable causes.
The evil David Kock - gives around $100 million every YEAR for some cause....a couple of years ago he gave $100 million to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology to fund cancer research...he gave over $400 million from 2004 - 2008 to charitable causes.
Home Depot founder Bernard Marcus gave $290 million to the Marcus Institute for children with disabilities and learning disorders, Autism Speaks (a national autism organization), and a state-of-the-art bioterrorism unit at the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention.
These guys do not HAVE to do this........but they do.
-- And what part of their fortunes do they give to charity (or foundations, or whatever) in comparison to their total worth?
-- And what do they get to claim against their taxes when they do?
Not saying that some aren't true philanthropists, but it's like trying to find a diamond in your back yard; not impossible, but highly unlikely.
Ulterior motives.
Quote from: The Troll on November 16, 2012, 08:24:20 PM
Huh? You have lost a screw. :wacko: Will anyone on here tell me what the Wacko :wacko: :kooks: said? :choo: :choo: :choo: :choo:
Troll, have you not ever heard of gift tax? If it was worth over so much and was given as a gift there would be a gift tax which would go by appraised value so it had to have a sale amount to keep from having to pay a gift tax. If NY has a sales tax on real estate, some states do, it would have been charged at the appraised value just like sales tax on a used car, which is why some car lots work with you on the way they write your receipt.
Quote from: me on November 17, 2012, 12:41:20 AM
Troll, have you not ever heard of gift tax? If it was worth over so much and was given as a gift there would be a gift tax which would go by appraised value so it had to have a sale amount to keep from having to pay a gift tax. If NY has a sales tax on real estate, some states do, it would have been charged at the appraised value just like sales tax on a used car, which is why some car lots work with you on the way they write your receipt.
Pleeeese don't bullshit me "ME". Here in Indiana the gift tax it $10,000 if it isn't to a political hack. :yes: They get their payoff in campaign funds. :yes:
Here in Indiana you can give a gift up to $10,000 over that the giver has to pay tax on it. So that lets you out, because your aren't a giver. :kiss:
I just went over to Goggle and asked they how the gift tax worked in New York. :yes: It really easy to check facts, as easy to get bullshit from the Republican Party.
It says that you can give up to $13,000 to as many people you want as long as the gift don't go over $15.12 Million life limit. So your Kock brother idol could have gave his door man $13,000 and neither one of them would have had to pay taxes on it. :wink: :biggrin: Oh, that's right you don't have any money to give away, you just bought that Half a million dollar house. :kiss:
Also for your information each Koch Brother is worth $25 Billion each for a total of $50 Billion. How about that I did a little math for yah. :wink: :kiss: Red of head. :gorgeous:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2012, 03:59:52 PM
But it seems like as long as it is federal workers, everything is fine......Despite nearly $16 billion in annual losses announced by the Postal Sevice on Thursday, all but one of the top five executives for the nations mail service had an overall compensation increase this year...Postmaster General Donahoe, for instance, earned a base salary of $276,840, but even without a bonus or incentive payout, his overall compensation came to $512,093, compared with $384,229 in 2011, according to regulatory filings...
Now THAT is greedy bastards.......using the peoples money. :rant:
What does your CEO's make in a year with less employees. Hmmmmm? They make millions and all kind of tax breaks. Why you Mitt Romney payed only 13% on his $23 Million income. Hummmm? Just love the way you think. I reminds me of a cupcake. DING DONGS. :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo:
I just wish you could for one week of not saying something stupid, so I wouldn't have to jump :bounce: on your ass over it, all the time. Skippy. :wink: :smile:
Quote from: The Troll on November 17, 2012, 06:24:28 PM
What does your CEO's make in a year with less employees.
The CEO of our company makes over $66,000.00 an hour. Try to wrap your head around that!
Quote from: Exterminator on November 18, 2012, 09:28:27 PM
The CEO of our company makes over $66,000.00 an hour. Try to wrap your head around that!
And this is 24 hours a day, he's working when he eats, when he plays golf, when he's out at the country club dancing and drinking and when he's sleeping. Because he's thinking about his job 24 hours a day. Hell, he's still making money, if he can get up, while he's making out. Just ask some 4 Star Generals we Americans have. :haha: :haha:
Quote from: The Troll on November 19, 2012, 09:37:26 AM
And this is 24 hours a day...
No, this is based on a normal 2,080 hour work year.
Quote from: Exterminator on November 19, 2012, 10:50:57 AM
No, this is based on a normal 2,080 hour work year.
If he is just working for the corporation he is over paid. No man working for anyone is worth $66,000 an hour. The only way a person is, is they invented it, sang it, wrote it, cause it to be. :no: :no: :no: This old boy could drop dead and someone would come in probably do a better job for less money. :yes: Executives pay scale are sure out of control and the stock holders and the American sure pay for it. :rant:
Or he can close the doors and fire everybody.....HE could retire and still have a wonderful life. He is already set.
But, he continuers to run a very, very successful corportation....and over 5,000 people are making a wonderful living and paying taxes.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 19, 2012, 01:09:32 PM
Or he can close the doors and fire everybody.....HE could retire and still have a wonderful life. He is already set.
But, he continuers to run a very, very successful corportation....and over 5,000 people are making a wonderful living and paying taxes.
Sing, sing sing, your little song Bird Boy. :bird: Other than that, at this moment, :nocomment: :jester:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 19, 2012, 01:09:32 PM
Or he can close the doors and fire everybody.....HE could retire and still have a wonderful life. He is already set.
But, he continuers to run a very, very successful corportation....and over 5,000 people are making a wonderful living and paying taxes.
Indeed he does and no one is questioning whether or not he deserves to be handsomely compensated. The question becomes whether or not anyone is actually worth more per hour than most of the people in the country make in a year and/or whether or not he would continue to do the job if he made, say $10 or $20 million instead of $140 million? I would submit that he would and further evidence of this is that he did.
Now let's explore your bullshit a bit further; shall we?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2012, 03:59:52 PM
But it seems like as long as it is federal workers, everything is fine......Despite nearly $16 billion in annual losses announced by the Postal Sevice on Thursday, all but one of the top five executives for the nations mail service had an overall compensation increase this year...Postmaster General Donahoe, for instance, earned a base salary of $276,840, but even without a bonus or incentive payout, his overall compensation came to $512,093, compared with $384,229 in 2011, according to regulatory filings...
See, the problem I have is this...you defend someone making more in a day for providing 5,000 taxpaying jobs than the Postmaster General makes in a year for providing more than 550,000 taxpaying jobs. So Donahoe manages more than 110 times the number of people for less than 1/250th of the pay and you somehow feel he's over-compensated?
Additionally, the USPS must, by law, continue to provide mail service to every address in the United States, faces very real losses in revenue due to technology (email, etc.) and is restricted by Congress on how much it can raise rates every year. I would say Donahoe faces a lot more challenges for the relatively small amount of money he makes than someone running a public/privately held corporation.
So what is your issue with it? Oh, yeah, this...
QuoteNow THAT is greedy bastards.......using the peoples money.
Unfortunately, all you are doing with this statement is showing your ignorance. The Postal Service receives NO tax dollars for operating expenses and relies on the sale of postage, products and services to fund its operations. They are required by law to cover their costs.
Here's some other things you probably don't realize:
The Postal Service has the world's largest retail network — larger than McDonald's, Walmart and Starbucks combined (in U.S.).
The Postal Service can and does compete with the private sector — and it collaborates, too. UPS and FedEx pay the Postal Service to deliver more than 400 million of their ground packages to residences and the Postal Service pays them for air transportation — taking advantage of their comprehensive air network.
The Postal Service is the only organization in the country that has the manpower, network infrastructure and logistical capability to deliver to every residence and business in the U.S. and its territories.
An independent assessment by Oxford Strategic Consulting named the U.S. Postal Service the best postal service among the 20 largest economies in the world. Criteria included the average number of citizens served, the number of letters and parcels delivered, service reliability and public trust.
The Postal Service is environmentally friendly and is a respected sustainability leader. It was promoting sustainable practices long before doing so was encouraged, mandated or governed.
Mail is a great communication tool. No monthly plans. No signal outages. No roaming charges. Regardless of geographic location, anyone can send a letter for just 45¢ anywhere in the United States and its territories.
Mail is reliable, trusted and secure — federal laws protecting the sanctity of the U.S. Mail are enforced by the U.S. Postal Inspection Service.
The Postal Service has the world's largest civilian fleet and the world's largest alternative fuel–enabled fleet of vehicles.
The Postal Service delivered 168 billion pieces of mail in 2011 — facilitating $10 trillion in commerce.I would submit that, considering the magnitude of the operation and the restrictions under which it is forced to operate, Donahoe earns every penny of his paltry compensation, especially when compared with the compensation of CEO's of corporations.
Quote from: Exterminator on November 19, 2012, 02:39:53 PM
Now let's explore your bullshit a bit further; shall we?
See, the problem I have is this...you defend someone making more in a day for providing 5,000 taxpaying jobs than the Postmaster General makes in a year for providing more than 550,000 taxpaying jobs. So Donahoe manages more than 110 times the number of people for less than 1/250th of the pay and you somehow feel he's over-compensated?
Additionally, the USPS must, by law, continue to provide mail service to every address in the United States, faces very real losses in revenue due to technology (email, etc.) and is restricted by Congress on how much it can raise rates every year. I would say Donahoe faces a lot more challenges for the relatively small amount of money he makes than someone running a public/privately held corporation.
So what is your issue with it? Oh, yeah, this...
Unfortunately, all you are doing with this statement is showing your ignorance. The Postal Service receives NO tax dollars for operating expenses and relies on the sale of postage, products and services to fund its operations. They are required by law to cover their costs.
The big difference is that the Post Office is losing $57 million dollars a DAY.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/08/09/20120809usps-near-bankrupt-reports-billion-loss.html (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/08/09/20120809usps-near-bankrupt-reports-billion-loss.html)
I don't think YOUR business would still exist if they were losing money of that magnitude.
So I actually would not say a word IF the USPS was making money.
also, I fully realize how the USPS works and what they do. If they charged what it takes to MAKE a profit...they would no longer exist.
I have realized long, long ago the Henry doesn't know shit about anything. :haha: I don't how he mastered his wiring job. :yes: I wonder what they call him at work, Sparky or Smokey from all of the wiring he's smoked. :haha:
All this Parrot knows is what some other dumb ass has told him. Really I have lost all respect and any trust in what he says. :yes: To me he a know nothing and with a big mouth what writes checks with his mouth that his ass can't cash. :rant:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 19, 2012, 03:22:40 PM
The big difference is that the Post Office is losing $57 million dollars a DAY.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/08/09/20120809usps-near-bankrupt-reports-billion-loss.html (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/08/09/20120809usps-near-bankrupt-reports-billion-loss.html)
I don't think YOUR business would still exist if they were losing money of that magnitude.
So I actually would not say a word IF the USPS was making money.
also, I fully realize how the USPS works and what they do. If they charged what it takes to MAKE a profit...they would no longer exist.
Damn, damn, damn Henry, here you go again, not knowing anything your taking about. What a damn shame. :doh: Just Goggle in how much the Post office has to pay in to the over funded Postal retirement fund. This year the Post Office owes the government $5.5 Billion in retirement funds. :rant:
Your Republican Party planned this to break the post office so they can privatize it. :yes: Do some damn research before your open your damn mouth. :yes: Again you don't know shit Henry. :haha:
Quote from: The Troll on November 19, 2012, 03:37:27 PM
Damn, damn, damn Henry, here you go again, not knowing anything your taking about. What a damn shame. :doh: Just Goggle in how much the Post office has to pay in to the over funded Postal retirement fund. This year the Post Office owes the government $5.5 Billion in retirement funds. :rant:
Your Republican Party planned this to break the post office so they can privatize it. :yes: Do some damn research before your open your damn mouth. :yes: Again you don't know shit Henry. :haha:
What have I said that was wrong troll........exactly what did I say?
they are LOSING money! I don't care who they owe...they are not a profitable organization. Not at the rates the charge. If they charged what they needed to, they would not compete against the private world. Perhaps YOU should think before you open your mouth, sir.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 19, 2012, 03:52:24 PM
What have I said that was wrong troll........exactly what did I say?
they are LOSING money! I don't care who they owe...they are not a profitable organization. Not at the rates the charge. If they charged what they needed to, they would not compete against the private world. Perhaps YOU should think before you open your mouth, sir.
Let me tell you this Henry, if the Postal Service is loosing money on a nonprofit model, no private business is going to do it. The Postal Service has shut down post offices cut hours, but yet they as a private entity has to go to congress to get a fee raise. They can't drop unprofitable routes, unprofitable states, unprofitable counties and unprofitable rural areas. Like United Parcel or FED EX and the airlines can and does stop service to unprofitable areas. :yes: The Postal Service has a pledge to congress to do this in all 50 States. Neither snow or rain nor heat nor gloom of night stay these couriers service from the swift completion of their appointed rounds. Period!
Henry, I know you won't believe this, but you can send a piece, part, bees packages practically anything to anywhere in the 50 states and overseas.
Right now and it has happen to me, if United Parcel doesn't want to deliver to my house, they leave it as the post office. It has happened to me several time and it is happening all over the country. Especially Alaska. But I suppose you never heard of that, have you?
Why don't you make a little search about why they are loosing money. :doh: Oh, oh, I know it's all the greedy unions fault. :jester:
Quote from: The Troll on November 17, 2012, 09:47:51 AM
Pleeeese don't bullshit me "ME". Here in Indiana the gift tax it $10,000 if it isn't to a political hack. :yes: They get their payoff in campaign funds. :yes:
Here in Indiana you can give a gift up to $10,000 over that the giver has to pay tax on it. So that lets you out, because your aren't a giver. :kiss:
I just went over to Goggle and asked they how the gift tax worked in New York. :yes: It really easy to check facts, as easy to get bullshit from the Republican Party.
It says that you can give up to $13,000 to as many people you want as long as the gift don't go over $15.12 Million life limit. So your Kock brother idol could have gave his door man $13,000 and neither one of them would have had to pay taxes on it. :wink: :biggrin: Oh, that's right you don't have any money to give away, you just bought that Half a million dollar house. :kiss:
Also for your information each Koch Brother is worth $25 Billion each for a total of $50 Billion. How about that I did a little math for yah. :wink: :kiss: Red of head. :gorgeous:
Read what I bolded and let it sink, including the underlined word. Giving and receiving are two different things. Also check and see if they have a real estate tax there.
As you put it, waitress, hat check girls, male servers, valets, hair dress, barber, and door men don't need or want a tip or Christmas gift. Hell, I give my newspaper man $50 Christmas gift for years and he puts my newspaper right next to my door, rain, snow or shine and I do appreciate it. It tickles me to see the neighbor's newspaper spread all over the place, out in the middle of the yard when there is a foot of snow on the ground and mine is right next to the door. :yes: :biggrin: Two years ago I blew the snow off my neighbor's drive way and ran over 2 different day newspapers. :haha:
My barber gives men over 65 a hair cut for $6 and I give her $10 and Christmas I give her twenty. :yes: :biggrin:
What is with you, you don't think that someone who gives you good service needs a little love and money. "ME" you can :azz: SCROOGE :grinch:
And Boobie Bear, what in hell does this have to do with real estate tax in New York and about the Billionaire cheap ass giving his door man $50 for Christmas. Give me a break, Boobie Bear. :kiss: If I was a Billionaire I would give my door man $13,500 for Christmas and to tell him to have a good Christmas for his kids and wife. And I would suprise everyone who gave me good service from my pocket change, big tips. :yes: :biggrin: You know you need a real life makeover, for you're sure sick now. :thubb:
Quote from: The Troll on November 16, 2012, 05:48:54 PM
Henry was as it David or was it Charles Kock that gave his door man at his multimillion appartment in New York City $50 for Christmas. Old Scrooge at work. :mad: :rant:
Oops my bad. I misread your statement. For some silly reason I thought you said he gave him an apt, as in condo, for $50. Duh, I think I need sleep. As Gilda Radner used to say...."never mind".
Quote from: me on November 20, 2012, 12:52:48 AM
Oops my bad. I misread your statement. For some silly reason I thought you said he gave him an apt, as in condo, for $50. Duh, I think I need sleep. As Gilda Radner used to say...."never mind".
:biggrin: That's alright, it's just you being "ME" :kiss:
PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla.—Florida Republican Rep. Allen West conceded to Democratic challenger Patrick Murphy on Tuesday, two weeks after the Nov. 6 election.
West challenged the results that showed him about 2,000 votes short of Murphy in Florida's 18th Congressional District but was unable to persuade local officials to grant him a full recount. He released a statement on Tuesday saying he plans to take "no further action to contest the outcome of this election."
"For two weeks since Election Day, we have been working to ensure every vote is counted accurately and fairly. We have made progress towards that goal, thanks to the dedication of our supporters and their unrelenting efforts to protect the integrity of the democratic process," West said in a statement. "While many questions remain unanswered, today I am announcing that I will take no further action to contest the outcome of this election."
Link to Article (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/allen-west-concedes-newcomer-patrick-murphy-132059203--election.html;_ylt=A0LkuY6tvqtQxk0AsACs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNscWdwdnMwBG1pdANUb3BTdG9yeSBGUARwa2cDOTQyODRmZDAtMzJhZi0zMDQ2LTkzNjUtZmZlN2Q3NDUxMTVlBHBvcwM0BHNlYwN0b3Bfc3RvcnkEdmVyA2NlMTlmZTQxLTMzMjYtMTFlMi1iZmY3LTA1OGU2ZjlkMWU5Nw--;_ylg=X3oDMTFpNzk0NjhtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3)
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FINALLY! The writing for this Tea Party jackass has been on wall since Election night, but he just didn't want to admit that he lost. :mad:
Quote from: Locutus on November 20, 2012, 12:38:32 PM
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FINALLY! The writing for this Tea Party jackass has been on wall since Election night, but he just didn't want to admit that he lost. :mad:
I am surprised that Asshole West got as many votes as he got. Is there that many stupid morons in Florida? :haha:
Quote from: The Troll on November 20, 2012, 09:46:50 AM
:biggrin: That's alright, it's just you being "ME" :kiss:
Hey, look at it this way, if I didn't screw up now and then who would you have to pick on? :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on November 20, 2012, 03:55:04 PM
I am surprised that Asshole West got as many votes as he got. Is there that many stupid morons in Florida? :haha:
North of the South Florida metro area, the state is rife with idiots.
Quote from: me on November 20, 2012, 04:06:52 PM
Hey, look at it this way, if I didn't screw up now and then who would you have to pick on? :biggrin:
I got to say that the zone would be very boring with our "ME". But I got to say you sure can make the Troll blow a fuse. Or smoke (burn up) the electrical control panel in Sparky Hawk talk. :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on November 20, 2012, 05:27:00 PM
I got to say that the zone would be very boring with our "ME". But I got to say you sure can make the Troll blow a fuse. Or smoke (burn up) the electrical control panel in Sparky Hawk talk. :biggrin:
That has become my new main goal in life. :biggrin:
Quote from: me on November 20, 2012, 06:11:31 PM
That has become my new main goal in life. :biggrin:
:haha: For some reason, deep down in my gut, I felt you felt that way. Strawberry Head. :kiss:
Quote from: The Troll on November 20, 2012, 08:43:31 PM
:haha: For some reason, deep down in my gut, I felt you felt that way. Strawberry Head. :kiss:
:biggrin:
Quote from: me on November 20, 2012, 06:11:31 PM
That has become my new main goal in life. :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on November 20, 2012, 08:43:31 PM
:haha: For some reason, deep down in my gut, I felt you felt that way. Strawberry Head. :kiss:
"Can you feel the love tonight?" -- Elton John, The Lion King (1994)
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:razz:
Quote from: Locutus on November 21, 2012, 12:33:10 AM
"Can you feel the love tonight?" -- Elton John, The Lion King (1994)
:rotfl:
Quote from: Locutus on November 21, 2012, 12:33:10 AM
"Can you feel the love tonight?" -- Elton John, The Lion King (1994)
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:food24: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 21, 2012, 12:07:22 PM
:food24: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Yeep! Huh huhhh; "ME" is just a big - big - hunk O'loving. :wink:
:music1: Just a big - big - a big hunk O'love :music1: :kiss: :rock:
Quote from: The Troll on November 21, 2012, 12:25:30 PM
Yeep! Huh huhhh; "ME" is just a big - big - hunk O'loving. :wink:
:music1: Just a big - big - a big hunk O'love :music1: :kiss: :rock:
You know it sweetie... :smitten:
Quote from: The Troll on November 21, 2012, 12:25:30 PM
Yeep! Huh huhhh; "ME" is just a big - big - hunk O'loving. :wink:
:music1: Just a big - big - a big hunk O'love :music1: :kiss: :rock:
Quote from: me on November 21, 2012, 08:04:29 PM
You know it sweetie... :smitten:
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Have I missed something? :confused: :spooked:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 21, 2012, 10:41:08 PM
Have I missed something? :confused: :spooked:
Yup! :spooked:
Another proud moment for our president.
By Andrew MalcolmPosted 11/21/2012 09:06 AM ET
For someone alleged to have grown up in Asia, Barack Obama is repeatedly clueless about customs there.
It's one thing if you're a tourist. But as the president of the United States? More problematic.
You may recall earlier trips there, part of his apology tours, when the Democrat president was bowing to just about everyone. In Japan, Emperor Akihito in a gesture of hospitality stuck out his hand for a Western greeting rather than expect a bow as he would from a subject.
Maybe Obama skips his protocol briefings too. He shook the Emperor's hands and bowed, very low like the gardener. Not like a visiting head of state. One or the other, bucko. Not both. (Scroll down for the excruciatingly obsequious photo.)
This week's trip was a quick three-country campaign swing to Thailand, Cambodia and Burma, part of what Obama touts as his second-term policy pivot toward Asia.
The president's safely back in the people's White House this morning with his wife and mother-in-law, having recaptured his Wednesday by flying through the night on Air Force One. He's home just in time for today's important duty of pardoning two Thanksgiving turkeys. No, not Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.
On this trip to Asia Obama, to his apparent delight, became the first sitting president to visit Burma, if you're keeping a scorecard for his presidential library someday. Yes, the president did mispronounce his host's name and did call the country Myanmar, which is not yet U.S. policy. But at least the Harvard grad didn't say they speak Austrian there.
The trip highlight for Obama, however, was visiting Aung San Suu Kyi, the world-famous dissident who actually did something to earn the Nobel Peace Prize, unlike some recipients. She underwent years of isolation, oppression and house arrest while speaking out for democracy in her now moderating homeland.
She consented to appear jointly with the president on her front porch. Both spoke briefly, she more cautiously than he.
Eager to take advantage of such a photo opportunity before the world media, Obama leaned in for a little kiss, as a Chicago pol might at a South Side rally where women would squeal for a presidential peck. Obama is a big political kisser. He kisses females everywhere. Introduce him at a rally, you get a kiss. Hug too, probably. He knows the ladies love it.
But Asia ain't Hyde Park. Public kissing, even between husband and wife, is rarely seen. Between a man and woman not married it's downright outrageous, even scandalous. So Obama's presumably affectionate but impolite, totally out of place smooch created an international moment more awkward than a first date.
Aung San Suu Kyi appeared to instinctively pull back from the male suddenly entering her personal space. But Obama's arm was wrapping around her.
Turning her face away, she eventually consented stiffly to the foreigner placing his lips on her cheek to avoid a scene. She did not reciprocate, even with an air kiss. Or a gracious smile.
At least our president didn't pat her on the head.
You would have read and seen much about this mortifying moment in American media had the pursuing president been George W. Bush. What an endlessly replayed hoot that would have been.
But since in this case the diplomatic klutz was Democrat Obama, just move along please. Nothing to see here. XOXO
http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/112112-634228-burma-aung-san-suu-kyi-obama-kiss-gaffe-.htm?ven=OutBrainCP
You lost; get over it.
Quote from: Exterminator on December 06, 2012, 10:48:33 AM
You lost; get over it.
QuoteYou would have read and seen much about this mortifying moment in American media had the pursuing president been George W. Bush. What an endlessly replayed hoot that would have been.
But since in this case the diplomatic klutz was Democrat Obama, just move along please. Nothing to see here. XOXO
Point proved.
Quote from: me on December 06, 2012, 11:00:05 AM
Point proved.
The only point you proved is that you can't get over being a loser.
Here is a picture of President Obama on the phone with Romney on the night of November 6th. Romney is conceding the election. This picture is from the White House Flickr account:
(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/eYNfXK.uCGDSGHPS9IRUfw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/theticket/president-obama-concession.jpg)
Quote from: Locutus on December 09, 2012, 01:08:58 PM
Here is a picture of President Obama on the phone with Romney on the night of November 6th. Romney is conceding the election. This picture is from the White House Flickr account:
(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/eYNfXK.uCGDSGHPS9IRUfw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/theticket/president-obama-concession.jpg)
Boner and Four Eyes Cantor hasn't got the message that they lost the election. :yes: So I just might think it's over the cliff we go. :biggrin: When you got someone by the balls they eventually give up. :biggrin:
Just think Republicans, 4 more years with Obama and 8 years of Hilary Clinton. :biggrin: 12 years of Democratic control. :haha: The Republican Party is the old Wig Party. :haha: :haha: :dead: