Our new mayor is calling for 20% cuts in all departments across the board. He states while he realizes some departments will be unable to do so because it would wipe them out, others can do more than this.
The unions are saber rattling and the entitlement gang of long term city employees are hand wringing.
Why does this surprise anyone? It has been a long time coming and is much needed. As the empty homes continue to multiply across this city, and businesses continue to shun it surrounding a target for relocation, measures have to be undertaken in order to reign in expenses. The tax revenue stream is no longer there to support business as usual!
I think he's on the right track at least.
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Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 17, 2012, 04:36:32 PM
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You're all shaking you're heads yes and smiling. But, do you think the roads in Anderson will get worse that they are now. :confused:
Quote from: The Troll on April 17, 2012, 06:27:49 PM
You're all shaking you're heads yes and smiling. But, do you think the roads in Anderson will get worse that they are now. :confused:
Just means the whole crew will be working instead of one or two working and 4 or 5 standing around watching like has been. And think about it Troll if the payroll is too big the money isn't there for repairs anyway.
Quote from: me on April 17, 2012, 10:28:07 PM
Just means the whole crew will be working instead of one or two working and 4 or 5 standing around watching like has been. And think about it Troll if the payroll is too big the money isn't there for repairs anyway.
I glad we got an expert on road repair. Fixing pot holes and laying hot black top in the hot days and hot sun. Thank you Mrs. Know it all. :haha: :haha:
They probably could lay off a few Anderson cops. From the looks of the arrest records in the paper, they are not working to hard. :rolleyes: :razz:
Quote from: The Troll on April 17, 2012, 06:27:49 PM
You're all shaking you're heads yes and smiling. But, do you think the roads in Anderson will get worse that they are now. :confused:
Potholes, maybe. But as far as resurfacing goes they bid that out anyway.
I share the concerns of the mayor when it comes to the practice of borrowing from the city utilities office to make payroll the first half of th year each year; we are already paying high rates for water and electricity, and then we have to pay interest back to the utility offices on the millions we borrow from them to make payroll until the tax bill installments come in.
It's wrong and we have to streamline and live within our means.
Quote from: Palehorse on April 17, 2012, 11:02:06 PM
Potholes, maybe. But as far as resurfacing goes they bid that out anyway.
I share the concerns of the mayor when it comes to the practice of borrowing from the city utilities office to make payroll the first half of th year each year; we are already paying high rates for water and electricity, and then we have to pay interest back to the utility offices on the millions we borrow from them to make payroll until the tax bill installments come in.
It's wrong and we have to streamline and live within our means.
I think the city of Anderson should get it touch with their man Mitch and see about all the money they misplaced and the $500 Million dollars he and his friend screw the towns and cities out of. :yes: :yes:
Quote from: The Troll on April 17, 2012, 11:19:27 PM
I think the city of Anderson should get it touch with their man Mitch and see about all the money they misplaced and the $500 Million dollars he and his friend screw the towns and cities out of. :yes: :yes:
Anderson's share of that pie is supposed to be right at 1 million; not enough to tai scare of the first 6 months of payroll at current headcount levels.
20% cut. This little story made me think of a buddy of mine. He painted custom vans with the beautiful pictures on the sides. He worked at GM and painted vans at night.
He must have sent to much time away from home, because his wife got to running around and sued him for divorce. At the divorce proceedings her lawyer got up into his face and said, you are going to give her 50% of the gross of your painting business aren't you. My buddy said yes.
After the trial was over my buddy when to his paint shop and met the men who work for him and they split up the inventory. He said, as I lock the door on the empty building and walked away, I thought 50% of nothing is nothing. :smile: :haha:
Well. . . now the mayor is calling for cuts in both police and fire departments.
I think the city needs to live within its means and if we cannot afford to pay all of these fire/police workers, then go they must!
Quote from: Palehorse on September 30, 2012, 11:29:08 AM
Well. . . now the mayor is calling for cuts in both police and fire departments.
I think the city needs to live within its means and if we cannot afford to pay all of these fire/police workers, then go they must!
and so should the Federal Gov
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 30, 2012, 11:29:53 AM
and so should the Federal Gov
You do realize that there are a large number of (ex) government workers currently unemployed; or don't you?
No, he doesn't realize that. The fact that he's completely out of touch w/reality (much like his political choices) shouldn't surprise you. :biggrin:
The federal employees aren't the problem. The inflated cost of contracting is.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 30, 2012, 11:55:11 AM
No, he doesn't realize that. The fact that he's completely out of touch w/reality (much like his political choices) shouldn't surprise you. :biggrin:
The federal employees aren't the problem. The inflated cost of contracting is.
Isn't it amazing how the Republicans want to make everything private business. Make government business private business where you have to pay a profit margin for it owners. Like road for example, the private business can cut the quality of the materials and quality of work so they can make more profit off the taxpayers. Then we have the idiots who don't want to pay any taxes. It sure seem like a disaster to me. Like Mitch Daniel's sale of our Toll Road. Now that was a cluster fuck. The money already spent and the companies who bought it can make money for another 70 years. :rant: God damn Republicans. :angry:
Quote from: Palehorse on September 30, 2012, 11:32:31 AM
You do realize that there are a large number of (ex) government workers currently unemployed; or don't you?
The number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama, according to the White House's Office of Management and Budget.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 30, 2012, 08:50:21 PM
The number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama, according to the White House's Office of Management and Budget.
More sour grapes. You got a job and to hell with everybody else. What else would I expect of you. Skippy. :kiss:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 30, 2012, 08:50:21 PM
The number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama, according to the White House's Office of Management and Budget.
The current unemployment rate for government workers is around 5.2%. . . so are you saying it was at 11/4% under the repugnicans?
Quote from: Palehorse on October 01, 2012, 08:22:55 AM
The current unemployment rate for government workers is around 5.2%. . . so are you saying it was at 11/4% under the repugnicans?
No, I am say that the number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama...I stated this after you said to me that "that there are a large number of (ex) government workers currently unemployed"
No need to spin anything here. The fed grew, and we don't have the money to pay for them.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 01, 2012, 08:49:54 AM
No, I am say that the number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama...I stated this after you said to me that "that there are a large number of (ex) government workers currently unemployed"
No need to spin anything here. The fed grew, and we don't have the money to pay for them.
They sure did and so did the population of the United States. :doh:
I am getting sick of this constant din of the United States is broke and we don't have and money. The amount of debt America has is about as low as it has been, with relationship of the gross nation product. When you take all of the money we have in assets and the money of the rich, this nation still is the richest country in the world.
The super rich own 40% of all of the treasure in this country. If we decide to take half of it we would be completely debt free. You're crying :cry: needlessly Henry. :cry: :cry:
Troll, the bottom line is this.
and you can spin it all you want.
I made a comment regarding the title of this thread calling for 20% cuts in all departments........PH, stated "measures have to be undertaken in order to reign in expenses. The tax revenue stream is no longer there to support business as usual"
I said, we need to do so on the federal level.........
it was then said that "that there are a large number of (ex) government workers currently unemployed"
and that is when and why I stated a fact: the number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama.
Had "me" or myself made such a statement, we would have been called out on it. I am simply calling this one out.
the number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama.
Make what you want out of it....but that is a fact.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 01, 2012, 02:15:41 PM
Troll, the bottom line is this.
and you can spin it all you want.
I made a comment regarding the title of this thread calling for 20% cuts in all departments........PH, stated "measures have to be undertaken in order to reign in expenses. The tax revenue stream is no longer there to support business as usual"
I said, we need to do so on the federal level.........
it was then said that "that there are a large number of (ex) government workers currently unemployed"
and that is when and why I stated a fact: the number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama.
Had "me" or myself made such a statement, we would have been called out on it. I am simply calling this one out.
the number of federal employees grew by 123,000, or 6.2%, under President Obama.
Make what you want out of it....but that is a fact.
So that means that we have 123,000 men and women working, eating, raising a family and making a living, paying over 30% in taxes. Not another 123,000 unemployed. :genius: I got to say that the Hawk has the math or the arithmetic. :haha:
Quote from: The Troll on October 01, 2012, 05:56:23 PM
So that means that we have 123,000 men and women working, eating, raising a family and making a living, paying over 30% in taxes. Not another 123,000 unemployed. :genius: I got to say that the Hawk has the math or the arithmetic. :haha:
Not when we don't have the money to pay for it genius...and we don't.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 01, 2012, 07:46:52 PM
Not when we don't have the money to pay for it genius...and we don't.
Back to Anderson again. You got your Republican Mayor. He is wanting to cut everything, he want to cut the budget to the bone so let him. That is what Republicans do, if you can't hurt the economy you kill it. But, why in hell hasn't he knocked the Wigwam in the head. It is a White Elephant and it costs an arm and a leg to keep it and Anderson is broke, since the UAW broke it. :wink: :haha: :haha:
1. Anderson long ago expanded its city limits far beyond what it could actually provide city services for. It was done to increase the tax base and essentially robbed the outliers within the city that never received the full benefit of the services being paid for.
2. Mayor Schmitty (and the German inference is intentional) shouldn't expect to be supported in his efforts to reduce public safety personnel due to the continued resentment from the above situation and his hypocrisy in budgetary matters by rehiring Winkler and their lil' ole' overseas trip to China.
3. The city's in a catch 22 because they can't get rid of Schmitty for another 3 years and the city cannot bear the financial brunt of reducing the city limits to a manageable size without a complete restructuring - even though it's a necessity.
4. City politics will not allow the restructuring of the mayor to a city manager - even though that's also a necessity.
The terms of the Firefighter's contract restricting the city from lowering the number of FF's employed have been thrown out by the court.
The city council tabled a vote on personnel issues, apparently until the court could rule on the FF issue.
There will now be hell to pay. :yes:
Quote from: Y on October 26, 2012, 01:34:10 AM
The terms of the Firefighter's contract restricting the city from lowering the number of FF's employed have been thrown out by the court.
The city council tabled a vote on personnel issues, apparently until the court could rule on the FF issue.
There will now be hell to pay. :yes:
Yup. More union busting. . . I cannot wait until a court somewhere in this land convicts government of this crime.
Let the caterwauling begin!
Problem is the union doesn't care if the city is going broke as long as they get theirs.
Quote from: me on October 26, 2012, 05:32:31 PM
Problem is the union doesn't care if the city is going broke as long as they get theirs.
bingo
Quote from: me on October 26, 2012, 05:32:31 PM
Problem is the union doesn't care if the city is going broke as long as they get theirs.
Like I said, let the caterwauling begin! :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on October 26, 2012, 09:23:56 PM
Like I said, let the caterwauling begin! :rolleyes:
Yes Sir, there isn't anything as bad as a pair of SCABS caterwauling. :kitty: :kitty: They are so greedy that they both don't know shit. :turk: :turk:
Quote from: me on October 26, 2012, 05:32:31 PM
Problem is the union doesn't care if the city is going broke as long as they get theirs.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 26, 2012, 06:05:42 PM
bingo
Though I'm agin' unions specifically in the instances of LEO/FF, the problem at hand isn't the unions, it's nepotism. The LEO/FF community, as well as the city government, is an inbred, incestuous, mess. Until that issue, and the inherent corruption caused by that situation, is addressed, the city will continue to be one big screw up that doesn't work.