What say you?
Probably not. Don't really care. But if I had the kind of money she fell into, I wouldn't work either.
Neither would I but I also wouldn't try to pretend that I understand the economic plight of middle class women.
And the big deal with this is? She was/is a stay at home mom are you putting that down now too? Is there something demeaning about that? Does that make her less of a person or woman and if so how?
I would say that Mitt has always been rich, born with a gold spoon in his mouth. His wife, hooooooo she had it so bad. In 2011 she had 5 house keepers and she don't have any children at home.
I bet she didn't have one person helping taking care of the house, taking care of the kids, cooking. Mowing the grounds of the manison, cleaning the stable where she and Mitt has their horses. If anyone tell you she didn't have nannies, maids and cooks, I would say you're a big fibber. :sarcasm:
Quote from: The Troll on April 13, 2012, 01:52:23 PM
I would say that Mitt has always been rich, born with a gold spoon in his mouth. His wife, hooooooo she had it so bad. In 2011 she had 5 house keepers and she don't have any children at home.
I bet she didn't have one person helping taking care of the house, taking care of the kids, cooking. Mowing the grounds of the manison, cleaning the stable where she and Mitt has their horses. If anyone tell you she didn't have nannies, maids and cooks, I would say you're a big fibber. :sarcasm:
So what does she have to do with Mitt anyway? Why is it so important to go after her character and put her down? Does it have a bearing on any kind of issues that are important? If so then why don't we look into Michelle's background?
Quote from: me on April 13, 2012, 01:46:17 PM
And the big deal with this is? She was/is a stay at home mom are you putting that down now too?
I don't think you can still claim to be a stay at home mom after your kids are all grown.
QuoteIs there something demeaning about that? Does that make her less of a person or woman and if so how?
I didn't say that but don't conservatives imply exactly that all of the time when they portray welfare mothers as lazy? Do single mothers who must rely on public assistance have the same right to make the "career choice" to be mothers or is that option only available to people who don't have to work anyway?
Quote from: Exterminator on April 13, 2012, 02:25:53 PM
I don't think you can still claim to be a stay at home mom after your kids are all grown.
I didn't say that but don't conservatives imply exactly that all of the time when they portray welfare mothers as lazy? Do single mothers who must rely on public assistance have the same right to make the "career choice" to be mothers or is that option only available to people who don't have to work anyway?
A lot of the people on welfare do make careers out of it by choice and you can't deny that. But one has nothing to do with the other in this case.
What the liberals are trying to do is put the Romney's in a bad light any way possible to stay away from having to discuss the issues. It is getting old and no one is paying attention to it, well maybe a few like you are, because they want to hear the issues discussed and how they are going to be handled not who did what to who and where.
Quote from: me on April 13, 2012, 02:38:14 PM
A lot of the people on welfare do make careers out of it by choice and you can't deny that. But one has nothing to do with the other in this case.
I'm not talking about making a career out of being on welfare, I'm asking if a woman has the right to choose the "career" of being a mother if welfare is the only way she has to support herself while doing so. Your ilk has been calling them lazy for decades and now wants to get indignant when someone suggests that Ann Romney, who has drivers, cooks and housekeepers, never worked.
QuoteWhat the liberals are trying to do is put the Romney's in a bad light any way possible to stay away from having to discuss the issues. It is getting old and no one is paying attention to it, well maybe a few like you are, because they want to hear the issues discussed and how they are going to be handled not who did what to who and where.
No, what the liberals and many middle-class conservatives as well are suggesting is that Mitt Romney's constant deference to his wife's opinions on the economic plight of middle-class women is misguided and misplaced because she knows absolutely nothing about them. And here's a clue for you: these are the real issues.
I heard it with my own ears what Mitt said, "my wife REPORTS to me on the economy." I do agree that she probably more up on the economy than :me:. But like what they say about Mitt working with many women and having ask for their advice. I'll bet they REPORTED to him too. :sneaky: :wink: :biggrin:
Did you know Mitt Romney's wife also has had breast cancer and has MS? You do know what MS is don't you? Now lets hear you put her down some more. Of course you have a right to put her down 'cause she's just a conservative's wife as well as a conservative herself, she's fair game like was said in another thread. You all are amazing.
Quote from: me on April 13, 2012, 05:07:57 PM
Did you know Mitt Romney's wife also has had breast cancer and has MS? You do know what MS is don't you? Now lets hear you put her down some more. Of course you have a right to put her down 'cause she's just a conservative's wife as well as a conservative herself, she's fair game like was said in another thread. You all are amazing.
My wife and I have friend who has at the present breast cancer. We have friends who have had breast cancer. We had friends who have died of cancer. We have a friend with MS and a woman I worked with had MS and has since died and not in a very good way.
The woman who said that Romney hadn't worked a day is a working woman outside of her home, who also is raising children. Romney's wife has not worked outside of her home, like my wife didn't until our boy was in school and she got bored staying home. I didn't ask her to get a job because I made and work enough for her to not work.
When you were working did you have maids, cooks, nannies and money to take really good care of them giving them everything they wanted and sent them to the finest colleges that money could buy. I'll bet you didn't, unless you have lied about not having any money when you were raising kids. Hummmmmmm. :confused: :rolleyes:
"Me" you know what you are saying is total crap and bullhocky, give it up, your not proving a thing to us. :wink: :biggrin:
Who is qualified to 'understand the plight of the middle class woman'? Certinaly not the woman who called her unqualified, not Mrs. Obama, not Mrs. Clinton or anyone else who has voiced an opinion on tv. They are all past that. My point is, she is as qualified as many of the people who want you to think they know so much about the subject.
Quote from: The Troll on April 13, 2012, 06:37:27 PM
My wife and I have friend who has at the present breast cancer. We have friends who have had breast cancer. We had friends who have died of cancer. We have a friend with MS and a woman I worked with had MS and has since died and not in a very good way.
The woman who said that Romney hadn't worked a day is a working woman outside of her home, who also is raising children. Romney's wife has not worked outside of her home, like my wife didn't until our boy was in school and she got bored staying home. I didn't ask her to get a job because I made and work enough for her to not work.
When you were working did you have maids, cooks, nannies and money to take really good care of them giving them everything they wanted and sent them to the finest colleges that money could buy. I'll bet you didn't, unless you have lied about not having any money when you were raising kids. Hummmmmmm. :confused: :rolleyes:
"Me" you know what you are saying is total crap and bullhocky, give it up, your not proving a thing to us. :wink: :biggrin:
What does that have to do with any of the issues Romney will have to deal with as President if he is elected? I thought kids, wives, and family had been made off limits by the dems. Oh, of course that only applies to them doesn't it and not the conservatives. Don't you think Michelle had maids, cooks, and nannies? How about Hillary, don't you think she had maids, cooks, and a nanny? You know come to think of it Obama took their cook to the White House to cook for them and also moved Michelle's mom into the White House to be with the kids. How many other presidents have done something like that? All this stuff the dems are coming up with to discredit and demean is pure garbage and you know it.
Quote from: Anne on April 13, 2012, 06:48:25 PM
Who is qualified to 'understand the plight of the middle class woman'? Certinaly not the woman who called her unqualified, not Mrs. Obama, not Mrs. Clinton or anyone else who has voiced an opinion on tv. They are all past that. My point is, she is as qualified as many of the people who want you to think they know so much about the subject.
Very well said Anne.
Opinions are like assholes; everybodys got one. But an educated opinion? Now there's a REAL asshole!
And that has what to do with them trying to demean and discredit Ann Romney?
Quote from: me on April 13, 2012, 07:48:54 PM
And that has what to do with them trying to demean and discredit Ann Romney?
It isn't in hyroglyphics . . .
Quote from: Palehorse on April 13, 2012, 07:52:09 PM
It isn't in hyroglyphics . . .
No, it isn't but what does demeaning discrediting her have to do with Mitt and how he might handle the presidency? What does it have to to with the issues? Like Anne said, the ones who brought the whole thing up can't relate either so what was their purpose in even saying what they did?
Quote from: Anne on April 13, 2012, 06:48:25 PM
Who is qualified to 'understand the plight of the middle class woman'? Certinaly not the woman who called her unqualified, not Mrs. Obama, not Mrs. Clinton or anyone else who has voiced an opinion on tv. They are all past that. My point is, she is as qualified as many of the people who want you to think they know so much about the subject.
Quote from: me on April 13, 2012, 08:09:45 PM
No, it isn't but what does demeaning discrediting her have to do with Mitt and how he might handle the presidency? What does it have to to with the issues? Like Anne said, the ones who brought the whole thing up can't relate either so what was their purpose in even saying what they did?
Mitt exposed her to the media wolf pack by inferring her expertise on the subject. The rest is nothing more than political subterfuge designed to take your eye off the ball. And it is working!
I heard the POTUS state his admiration for the work involved in motherhood this very day.
Quote from: Palehorse on April 13, 2012, 08:33:01 PM
Mitt exposed her to the media wolf pack by inferring her expertise on the subject. The rest is nothing more than political subterfuge designed to take your eye off the ball. And it is working!
I heard the POTUS state his admiration for the work involved in motherhood this very day.
Yep sure is. Quote from: Exterminator on April 13, 2012, 01:19:33 PM
What say you?
Quote from: Olias on April 13, 2012, 01:27:49 PM
Probably not. Don't really care. But if I had the kind of money she fell into, I wouldn't work either.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 13, 2012, 01:37:32 PM
Neither would I but I also wouldn't try to pretend that I understand the economic plight of middle class women.
Quote from: The Troll on April 13, 2012, 01:52:23 PM
I would say that Mitt has always been rich, born with a gold spoon in his mouth. His wife, hooooooo she had it so bad. In 2011 she had 5 house keepers and she don't have any children at home.
I bet she didn't have one person helping taking care of the house, taking care of the kids, cooking. Mowing the grounds of the manison, cleaning the stable where she and Mitt has their horses. If anyone tell you she didn't have nannies, maids and cooks, I would say you're a big fibber. :sarcasm:
Quote from: Exterminator on April 13, 2012, 02:25:53 PM
I don't think you can still claim to be a stay at home mom after your kids are all grown.
I didn't say that but don't conservatives imply exactly that all of the time when they portray welfare mothers as lazy? Do single mothers who must rely on public assistance have the same right to make the "career choice" to be mothers or is that option only available to people who don't have to work anyway?
Quote from: Exterminator on April 13, 2012, 02:47:48 PM
I'm not talking about making a career out of being on welfare, I'm asking if a woman has the right to choose the "career" of being a mother if welfare is the only way she has to support herself while doing so. Your ilk has been calling them lazy for decades and now wants to get indignant when someone suggests that Ann Romney, who has drivers, cooks and housekeepers, never worked.
No, what the liberals and many middle-class conservatives as well are suggesting is that Mitt Romney's constant deference to his wife's opinions on the economic plight of middle-class women is misguided and misplaced because she knows absolutely nothing about them. And here's a clue for you: these are the real issues.
Quote from: The Troll on April 13, 2012, 03:36:43 PM
I heard it with my own ears what Mitt said, "my wife REPORTS to me on the economy." I do agree that she probably more up on the economy than :me:. But like what they say about Mitt working with many women and having ask for their advice. I'll bet they REPORTED to him too. :sneaky: :wink: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on April 13, 2012, 06:37:27 PM
My wife and I have friend who has at the present breast cancer. We have friends who have had breast cancer. We had friends who have died of cancer. We have a friend with MS and a woman I worked with had MS and has since died and not in a very good way.
The woman who said that Romney hadn't worked a day is a working woman outside of her home, who also is raising children. Romney's wife has not worked outside of her home, like my wife didn't until our boy was in school and she got bored staying home. I didn't ask her to get a job because I made and work enough for her to not work.
When you were working did you have maids, cooks, nannies and money to take really good care of them giving them everything they wanted and sent them to the finest colleges that money could buy. I'll bet you didn't, unless you have lied about not having any money when you were raising kids. Hummmmmmm. :confused: :rolleyes:
"Me" you know what you are saying is total crap and bullhocky, give it up, your not proving a thing to us. :wink: :biggrin:
Kept you dancing for hours though hasn't it?
Quote from: Palehorse on April 13, 2012, 09:20:33 PM
Kept you dancing for hours though hasn't it?
But not detracted from the issues just trying to get them to see what was going on and the hypocrisy of it. Ain't gonna happen though unfortunately.
Quote from: me on April 13, 2012, 09:31:05 PM
But not detracted from the issues just trying to get them to see what was going on and the hypocrisy of it. Ain't gonna happen though unfortunately.
There was a lady who called in this morning on MSNBC. She said she had worked for Romney's wife family. She said that she cooked, clean and took care of Romney's wife. She said that you sure can believe that she didn't do any work, because the lady that called in said she did it. I believe it. :yes: :yes: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on April 13, 2012, 10:05:24 PM
There was a lady who called in this morning on MSNBC. She said she had worked for Romney's wife family. She said that she cooked, clean and took care of Romney's wife. She said that you sure can believe that she didn't do any work, because the lady that called in said she did it. I believe it. :yes: :yes: :biggrin:
With MS there are days when she probably can't even get out of bed let alone work. Go read up on MS Troll there are different degrees of it and it doesn't always show. A person can be fine one day and can't talk or walk the next.
Quote from: me on April 13, 2012, 10:56:21 PM
With MS there are days when she probably can't even get out of bed let alone work. Go read up on MS Troll there are different degrees of it and it doesn't always show. A person can be fine one day and can't talk or walk the next.
God damn it, I know want MS is. I personally know a woman who has it, she and her husband has been to my house many times and my wife and I have been to their house many times and I have personally seen what the damn disease does to her.
I also worked in the same department at Ford with a woman who was in the last stages of MS and I seen what it did to her and I seen her last day at work, just a short time before she died. She was one tough cookie and she fought as hard as she could but it still got her. >:(
But what I want to know is how many paid nurses, maids, cooks and housekeepers did Mrs. Romney have to help her though the bad times. I got to say one thing, she is sure is a beauty and she sure looked good at the NRA convention. For her health and well being she should stay out of the political war her husband is in. Because stress in one thing you don't want with MS. :yes: :yes:
Quote from: The Troll on April 14, 2012, 10:30:34 AM
God damn it, I know want MS is. I personally know a woman who has it, she and her husband has been to my house many times and my wife and I have been to their house many times and I have personally seen what the damn disease does to her.
I also worked in the same department at Ford with a woman who was in the last stages of MS and I seen what it did to her and I seen her last day at work, just a short time before she died. She was one tough cookie and she fought as hard as she could but it still got her. >:(
But what I want to know is how many paid nurses, maids, cooks and housekeepers did Mrs. Romney have to help her though the bad times. I got to say one thing, she is sure is a beauty and she sure looked good at the NRA convention. For her health and well being she should stay out of the political war her husband is in. Because stress in one thing you don't want with MS. :yes: :yes:
Lay off her Troll it has nothing to do with the issues at hand that he will have to handle. Wonder how many maids and cooks Michelle has and she is healthy.
Quote from: me on April 14, 2012, 11:37:57 AM
Lay off her Troll it has nothing to do with the issues at hand that he will have to handle. Wonder how many maids and cooks Michelle has and she is healthy.
You are the one who tried to play the cripple card.
Quote from: me on April 13, 2012, 10:56:21 PM
With MS there are days when she probably can't even get out of bed let alone work. Go read up on MS Troll there are different degrees of it and it doesn't always show. A person can be fine one day and can't talk or walk the next.
Quote from: me on April 13, 2012, 05:07:57 PM
Did you know Mitt Romney's wife also has had breast cancer and has MS? You do know what MS is don't you? Now lets hear you put her down some more. Of course you have a right to put her down 'cause she's just a conservative's wife as well as a conservative herself, she's fair game like was said in another thread. You all are amazing.
Quote from: me on April 14, 2012, 11:37:57 AM
Lay off her Troll it has nothing to do with the issues at hand that he will have to handle. Wonder how many maids and cooks Michelle has and she is healthy.
Sweetheart, Michelle is the wife of the President of United States of America. She lives in the White House the Home of the President of America. When a wife of the President lives there, there is the White House Chief and a cooking staff. I hope you don't want the wife of the President cooking for all of the White House affairs do you.
Since she does live in the White House that is owned and operated by the the government who takes care and cleans it I suppose that Michelle need to clean the whole White House and it many offices and Wait on each every person who enters the White House each day.
You got to be a damn fool to even suggest such a stupid proposition. :jester: :jc:
Quote from: The Troll on April 14, 2012, 12:16:45 PM
Sweetheart, Michelle is the wife of the President of United States of America. She lives in the White House the Home of the President of America. When a wife of the President lives there, there is the White House Chief and a cooking staff. I hope you don't want the wife of the President cooking for all of the White House affairs do you.
Since she does live in the White House that is owned and operated by the the government who takes care and cleans it I suppose that Michelle need to clean the whole White House and it many offices and Wait on each every person who enters the White House each day.
You got to be a damn fool to even suggest such a stupid proposition. :jester: :jc:
They took their own cook to the White House with them as well as her mother.
You go right ahead and keep paying attention to crap like this and yer gonna miss the important things you should be paying attention to like the real issues.
Quote from: me on April 14, 2012, 12:37:27 PM
They took their own cook to the White House with them as well as her mother.
. . .
Yet another falsehood:
The White House Chef is Cristeta Comerford, who has held the position since 2005 and served the Shrub.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/15/politics/15chef.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/15/politics/15chef.html)
Did you catch the date on that?
By MARIAN BURROS
Published: August 15, 2005
Quote from: me on April 13, 2012, 10:56:21 PM
With MS there are days when she probably can't even get out of bed let alone work. Go read up on MS Troll there are different degrees of it and it doesn't always show. A person can be fine one day and can't talk or walk the next.
My mom had MS...and epilepsy...and died of cancer...she raised four kids without drivers, cooks or housekeepers.
Quote from: me on April 14, 2012, 01:13:05 PM
Did you catch the date on that?
By MARIAN BURROS
Published: August 15, 2005
Did you think about what he was saying before you responded?
Quote from: me on April 13, 2012, 09:31:05 PM
But not detracted from the issues just trying to get them to see what was going on and the hypocrisy of it.
I posted this specifically to point out the hypocrisy of it. Your ilk keeps wanting to defend Ann Romney rather than address the issue of whether or not poor women, whom you have been portraying as lazy all of these years, have the same right to decide to be mothers rather than work a conventional job.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristeta_Comerford (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristeta_Comerford)
Cristeta Pasia Comerford (born 1962) is a Filipino American chef who has been the White House Executive Chef since 2005. She is the first woman to be selected for the post, and also the first of Asian American descent.. . .
Quote from: me on April 14, 2012, 01:13:05 PM
Did you catch the date on that?
By MARIAN BURROS
Published: August 15, 2005
I assumed you would read and comprehend the post. . . shame on me!
Horse, Ex and all of you other people here on the Zone can tell how many time has "ME" been wrong. This woman is wrong on about 98% of the time.
But what get me about "ME: is, she such a blow hard, a buffoon that she is proud of being wrong, pig headed and so foolish about the Republican Party and the 1%ers it would gag a maggot. :puke:
Quote from: Exterminator on April 14, 2012, 01:14:36 PM
Did you think about what he was saying before you responded?
Yes I did but that doesn't mean they didn't take their own cook for their meals. Do you think they'd have their cook fix meals for everyone? :rolleyes:
Quote from: me on April 14, 2012, 03:29:52 PM
Yes I did but that doesn't mean they didn't take their own cook for their meals. Do you think they'd have their cook fix meals for everyone? :rolleyes:
Seriously?
Quote from: Exterminator on April 14, 2012, 01:17:57 PM
I posted this specifically to point out the hypocrisy of it. Your ilk keeps wanting to defend Ann Romney rather than address the issue of whether or not poor women, whom you have been portraying as lazy all of these years, have the same right to decide to be mothers rather than work a conventional job.
Like the women who put her down would know either. Give me a break they said something which, to them, was a put down not realizing neither they nor any other presidents wife have been in that position to know either so it is true of all of them. What they did instead was insult every stay at home mom in the process. If you don't see it that way that's your problem.
Like I said, Michelle had a cook and maids too so quit acting like it's the crime of the century because Ann Romney did. Obviously Michelle can't relate to a working middle class mom either.
January 28, 2009, 11:47 am
Obamas Bring Their Chicago Chef to the White House
By MARIAN BURROS
Sam Kass, a private chef for the Obamas while they were living in Chicago, is now working in the White House.
A spokeswoman for Michelle Obama, Katie McCormick Lelyveld, said Mr. Kass will not be the only cook preparing the family's meals, but "he knows what they like and he happens to have a particular interest in healthy food and local food." He will work alongside the White House executive chef, Cristeta Comerford, who was promoted to that job by the Bushes and is being kept on in that role by the Obamas.
Mr. Kass's appointment signals changes at the White House that should please chefs like Alice Waters, who have lobbied the Obamas to set an example for the rest of the country by emphasizing food that is healthy, local and sustainable. It further suggests that a vegetable garden on the White House grounds, another of Ms. Waters' dreams, could be on the horizon.
Mr. Kass, one of the new breed of chefs who are concerned about the environment and about poor eating habits in this country, has been quoted as saying people in his profession should take the lead in tackling public health issues. "Not only is there an unconscionable amount of people who remain hungry," he told "In These Times" magazine last year, said, "there's even a larger population, mostly poor, who are faced with obesity, diabetes and various other problems from overabundance."
A Chicago native, he graduated from the University of Chicago and received his formal training at a Michelin-starred restaurant in Europe, then went to work at Avec, a highly regarded Chicago wine bar serving Mediterranean food.
After he left the restaurant Mr. Kass, who is 28, founded Inevitable Table, a private chef service in Chicago, according to its Web site, that is the client's "link to clean, healthy food." In addition to cooking and shopping "mainly from local farms," and purchasing wines from "small sustainable wineries," the Web site says, the service offers meals for children and for private parties. All sample menus start with salads; all main courses include plenty of vegetables.
Those who have eaten his food say that it is not only delicious but very healthful and beautifully presented.
Mr. Kass was required to sever his relationship with the company when he went to work at the White House.
He was also a programmer and part-time executive chef at the Jane Addams Hull House Museum in Chicago, dedicated to the work of the 19th century social reformer.
One of its projects, Re-thinking Soup, for which Mr. Kass made soup every Tuesday, and served it with organic bread, brings together farmers, activists, researchers to talk about critical food issues.
At one of the sessions Mr. Kass spoke about the high levels of fat and sugar in school lunches and the need for change.
Walter Scheib, former White House chef for the Clintons and Bushes, said the decision to bring Mr. Kass to the White House to fill an open slot is "a master stroke." It's a tremendous resource for Cris, he said, a reference to Ms. Cristeta Comerford, the executive chef who became the first woman in that job when she was appointed in 2005.
"This will make her job much easier because she will understand better and faster what they like," he said. "She doesn't have to spend months reading the tea leaves."
Other administrations have found ways to have their favorite foods in the White House. Nancy Reagan preferred the cooking of one of the White House chefs, Frank Ruta, and plucked him from the kitchen to cook in the family quarters. Mr. Ruta now owns Palena in Washington.
The Johnsons brought their family cook of 21 years with them from Texas. The cook, Zephyr Wright, made the southern food the Johnsons preferred and was famous for her tapioca pudding, one of Johnson's favorites.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/obamas-bring-their-chicago-chef-to-the-white-house/
Quote from: me on April 14, 2012, 03:29:52 PM
Yes I did but that doesn't mean they didn't take their own cook for their meals. Do you think they'd have their cook fix meals for everyone? :rolleyes:
Okay. . . now you are just being ridiculous. You are twisting and making stuff up to save face. Stop it, you are only digging yourself in deeper. . . :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 14, 2012, 04:11:17 PM
Okay. . . now you are just being ridiculous. You are twisting and making stuff up to save face. Stop it, you are only digging yourself in deeper. . . :rolleyes:
You say this like it's a new thing.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 14, 2012, 04:15:20 PM
You say this like it's a new thing.
Sometimes comprehension is increased via repetition. . . :biggrin:
Quote from: me on April 14, 2012, 03:42:49 PM
Like I said, Michelle had a cook and maids too so quit acting like it's the crime of the century because Ann Romney did. Obviously Michelle can't relate to a working middle class mom either.
January 28, 2009, 11:47 am
Obamas Bring Their Chicago Chef to the White House
By MARIAN BURROS
Sam Kass, a private chef for the Obamas while they were living in Chicago, is now working in the White House.
A spokeswoman for Michelle Obama, Katie McCormick Lelyveld, said Mr. Kass will not be the only cook preparing the family's meals, but "he knows what they like and he happens to have a particular interest in healthy food and local food." He will work alongside the White House executive chef, Cristeta Comerford, who was promoted to that job by the Bushes and is being kept on in that role by the Obamas.
Mr. Kass's appointment signals changes at the White House that should please chefs like Alice Waters, who have lobbied the Obamas to set an example for the rest of the country by emphasizing food that is healthy, local and sustainable. It further suggests that a vegetable garden on the White House grounds, another of Ms. Waters' dreams, could be on the horizon.
Mr. Kass, one of the new breed of chefs who are concerned about the environment and about poor eating habits in this country, has been quoted as saying people in his profession should take the lead in tackling public health issues. "Not only is there an unconscionable amount of people who remain hungry," he told "In These Times" magazine last year, said, "there's even a larger population, mostly poor, who are faced with obesity, diabetes and various other problems from overabundance."
A Chicago native, he graduated from the University of Chicago and received his formal training at a Michelin-starred restaurant in Europe, then went to work at Avec, a highly regarded Chicago wine bar serving Mediterranean food.
After he left the restaurant Mr. Kass, who is 28, founded Inevitable Table, a private chef service in Chicago, according to its Web site, that is the client's "link to clean, healthy food." In addition to cooking and shopping "mainly from local farms," and purchasing wines from "small sustainable wineries," the Web site says, the service offers meals for children and for private parties. All sample menus start with salads; all main courses include plenty of vegetables.
Those who have eaten his food say that it is not only delicious but very healthful and beautifully presented.
Mr. Kass was required to sever his relationship with the company when he went to work at the White House.
He was also a programmer and part-time executive chef at the Jane Addams Hull House Museum in Chicago, dedicated to the work of the 19th century social reformer.
One of its projects, Re-thinking Soup, for which Mr. Kass made soup every Tuesday, and served it with organic bread, brings together farmers, activists, researchers to talk about critical food issues.
At one of the sessions Mr. Kass spoke about the high levels of fat and sugar in school lunches and the need for change.
Walter Scheib, former White House chef for the Clintons and Bushes, said the decision to bring Mr. Kass to the White House to fill an open slot is "a master stroke." It's a tremendous resource for Cris, he said, a reference to Ms. Cristeta Comerford, the executive chef who became the first woman in that job when she was appointed in 2005.
"This will make her job much easier because she will understand better and faster what they like," he said. "She doesn't have to spend months reading the tea leaves."
Other administrations have found ways to have their favorite foods in the White House. Nancy Reagan preferred the cooking of one of the White House chefs, Frank Ruta, and plucked him from the kitchen to cook in the family quarters. Mr. Ruta now owns Palena in Washington.
The Johnsons brought their family cook of 21 years with them from Texas. The cook, Zephyr Wright, made the southern food the Johnsons preferred and was famous for her tapioca pudding, one of Johnson's favorites.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/obamas-bring-their-chicago-chef-to-the-white-house/
What's your point? You implied Michelle brought her own chef to cook exclusively for the family and your article clearly states that is not the case. Their chef is there more in a working advisory role. Not damn thing wrong with the either.
The 1st family made million each year before coming to the presidency, and as you are so fond of saying, "whats wrong with them spending their money the way they want to?"
Quote from: Palehorse on April 14, 2012, 04:50:11 PM
What's your point? You implied Michelle brought her own chef to cook exclusively for the family and your article clearly states that is not the case. Their chef is there more in a working advisory role. Not damn thing wrong with the either.
The 1st family made million each year before coming to the presidency, and as you are so fond of saying, "whats wrong with them spending their money the way they want to?"
One more thing might be said about Barack and Michelle they had an income of $789,674.
Mr. and Mrs. Obama income $789,674
Paid in taxes 20.5%
Percent given to charity 25%
Mr. and Mrs. Romney income $23 Million
Paid in taxes 15%
Percent given to charity 2% Mostly to the Mormon church.
Sound like there isn't much charity in Mr. and Mrs. Romney's heart. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 14, 2012, 04:50:11 PM
What's your point? You implied Michelle brought her own chef to cook exclusively for the family and your article clearly states that is not the case. Their chef is there more in a working advisory role. Not damn thing wrong with the either.
The 1st family made million each year before coming to the presidency, and as you are so fond of saying, "whats wrong with them spending their money the way they want to?"
Nothing. Troll is acting as though it's a crime the Ann Romney has had cooks and maids and that makes her some sort of monster or an awful person and I was simply pointing out to him that she isn't the only person that has a cook and maid so lay off that stupid crap. She is just a capable as Michelle of being First Lady. She was, as you know, First Lady of a state and Michelle was never that before becoming First Lady.
Quote from: The Troll on April 14, 2012, 05:18:36 PM
One more thing might be said about Barack and Michelle they had an income of $789,674.
Mr. and Mrs. Obama income $789,674
Paid in taxes 20.5%
Percent given to charity 25%
Mr. and Mrs. Romney income $23 Million
Paid in taxes 15%
Percent given to charity 2% Mostly to the Mormon church.
Sound like there isn't much charity in Mr. and Mrs. Romney's heart. :rolleyes:
SO WHAT?????? Is that a crime? Make him a bad person because he made money. That doesn't have anything to do with his qualifications to be President. You, my dear sir are a nit picker just grasping at straws.
Quote from: me on April 14, 2012, 05:19:12 PM
Nothing. Troll is acting as though it's a crime the Ann Romney has had cooks and maids and that makes her some sort of monster or an awful person and I was simply pointing out to him that she isn't the only person that has a cook and maid so lay off that stupid crap. She is just a capable as Michelle of being First Lady. She was, as you know, First Lady of a state and Michelle was never that before becoming First Lady.
No, Troll's point and implications are pretty clear; Mrs Romney is one of the privileged in society and therefore her "perspectives" surrounding the working class women, single mothers, etc. is very likely to be tinted by the rose colored glasses her position in society affords her.
Quote from: me on April 14, 2012, 05:21:09 PM
SO WHAT?????? Is that a crime? Make him a bad person because he made money. That doesn't have anything to do with his qualifications to be President. You, my dear sir are a nit picker just grasping at straws.
$23 Million are a lot of straws to grasp for. And to think the cheap bastard only gave 2 percent of all of his money to the Mormon church. What a cheap tight ass. Just the kind of guy you love, just like yourself, one old cheap asshole. :haha: If you think he would make a good president you can :azz:
I don't dislike Mrs. Romney, hell she got the money to spend it any way she wants. But I am as stupid to think that she has work as hard as anyone I know to make a living, she's had it all. Living off the backs of the wage slaves. So STFU. :kiss:
With Mitt Romney giving two percent out of his 23 million dollar income really shows his heart and soul when it comes to caring about someone less fortunate that himself. One uncaring selfish bastard. His heart is black. :rolleyes: And you want him for president over everybody in the United States. Just what we need an cheap bastard.
But you will hold your nose, knowing he's a Mormon cheap bastard and vote for him. :puke:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 14, 2012, 05:45:42 PM
No, Troll's point and implications are pretty clear; Mrs Romney is one of the privileged in society and therefore her "perspectives" surrounding the working class women, single mothers, etc. is very likely to be tinted by the rose colored glasses her position in society affords her.
And I simply point out that Michelle is also one of the privileged in society and her perspectives would also be the same as it would with most First Ladies. There is no difference in that area what-so-ever. Michelle thinks all people can feed their kids like she does, with the expensive health foods and that just isn't a possibility. People on food stamps and welfare getting food from food pantries have to eat what they have and can afford. People in apartments cannot plant gardens, maybe a plant or two in a pot but sometimes not even that.
Quote from: me on April 14, 2012, 06:07:24 PM
And I simply point out that Michelle is also one of the privileged in society and her perspectives would also be the same as it would with most First Ladies. There is no difference in that area what-so-ever. Michelle thinks all people can feed their kids like she does, with the expensive health foods and that just isn't a possibility. People on food stamps and welfare getting food from food pantries have to eat what they have and can afford. People in apartments cannot plant gardens, maybe a plant or two in a pot but sometimes not even that.
But then, the POTUS isn't simply relying on the First Lady to provide him expertise on the topic now is he. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on April 14, 2012, 06:08:51 PM
But then, the POTUS isn't simply relying on the First Lady to provide him expertise on the topic now is he. . .
Nor would Romney be. Mountains are being made out of mole hills here any way you look at it. Hell, he hasn't even gotten the nomination yet so what's all this bashing already. Wouldn't the energy be better spent looking for things that matter on the issues instead of all this bashing crap? It's gettin' real old.
Quote from: me on April 14, 2012, 06:14:26 PM
Nor would Romney be. Mountains are being made out of mole hills here any way you look at it. Hell, he hasn't even gotten the nomination yet so what's all this bashing already. Wouldn't the energy be better spent looking for things that matter on the issues instead of all this bashing crap? It's gettin' real old.
Same thing that happened to Obama. . . only you see it as being against his policies. . . :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 14, 2012, 06:15:52 PM
Same thing that happened to Obama. . . only you see it as being against his policies. . . :rolleyes:
I am against his policies and he happens to be President now. A lot of people who voted for him are now against his policies too so what are you trying to prove here anyway?
Quote from: me on April 14, 2012, 06:26:36 PM
I am against his policies and he happens to be President now. A lot of people who voted for him are now against his policies too so what are you trying to prove here anyway?
Most people are mad about Obama trying to deal with your Republicans for a fair basics. But all he got was No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no and No. :rant:
Quote from: The Troll on April 14, 2012, 07:39:37 PM
Most people are mad about Obama trying to deal with your Republicans for a fair basics. But all he got was No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no and No. :rant:
:rolleyes:
Quote from: me on April 14, 2012, 07:55:58 PM
:rolleyes:
Yep, you a hard headed cheap fool. :jc:
Quote from: me on April 13, 2012, 01:46:17 PM
And the big deal with this is? She was/is a stay at home mom are you putting that down now too? Is there something demeaning about that? Does that make her less of a person or woman and if so how?
Only that she had two au pairs to do the work, for her. She probably STILL never worked a day in her life. Fuck these pompous elitist mutha fuckers. Don't try to claim you can relate. My guess is her hardest chore, ever, has been to pick the right wine for dinner.
Quote from: dan foster on April 20, 2012, 09:24:32 PM
Only that she had two au pairs to do the work, for her. She probably STILL never worked a day in her life. Fuck these pompous elitist mutha fuckers. Don't try to claim you can relate. My guess is her hardest chore, ever, has been to pick the right wine for dinner.
So what are you jealous? Hell Pelosi probably even has someone who does that for her so she don't have to. I don't see Michelle as being a domestic person either and I don't hear you griping 'cause she has a maid and cook who does things for her.
Quote from: me on April 21, 2012, 01:32:02 AM
So what are you jealous? Hell Pelosi probably even has someone who does that for her so she don't have to. I don't see Michelle as being a domestic person either and I don't hear you griping 'cause she has a maid and cook who does things for her.
I will say that Ann Romney has never worked a day in here life, unless is was playing tennis, golf, tipping up champagne and the country Club. Maybe hot sex hooking Mitt. :ha ha: :ha ha:
You did know that King Henry had an royal ass whipper. Who Knows about Ann. :wink: :biggrin: