Voters in Mississippi will be given a chance to decide whether life begins at conception, a controversial abortion-related ballot initiative that the state's highest court has refused to block.
The Mississippi Supreme Court late Thursday allowed Measure 26, also known as the Personhood Amendment, to appear on the state ballot November 8. The decision was a rejection of a lawsuit filed by the ACLU and abortion-rights groups.. . .
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-09-09/us/mississippi.personhood_1_personhood-initiative-abortion-rights-groups-personhood-amendment?_s=PM:US (http://articles.cnn.com/2011-09-09/us/mississippi.personhood_1_personhood-initiative-abortion-rights-groups-personhood-amendment?_s=PM:US)
So let me get this straight. The LAW decided that a bunch of common citizens in the state of Mississippi can decide on when life begins based upon emotional hyperbole and religious zealotry, and not empirical scientific data?
I think the judges of this country have gone straight off the deep end and into the pockets of religious zealots and corporations! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: All logic has now gone out the window and nothing short of religious zealotry and the worship of the almighty dollar have taken its place! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
This issue was already decided by the U.S. Supreme Court in Roe vs. Wade.
I would like to know where the dumb ass Christians and the more than stupid men get the idea that abortion by anyone else is their business.
You keep you damn idiot religion out of someone else business.
I have grown to be an Atheist and I am proud of it. I took the yoke of stupidity of the Christian Religion off my back and out of my mind. I feel so free.
How on earth could anyone who has studied the Universe and how it works can believe there is a unseen and all seeing God really exist. Some thing has to missing from these people brains. And these people want to take a woman's freedom away to control her own body and cram their religion down our throats. :mad: :mad: :rant:
Well the people of Mississippi did better than I thought they would. I guess this stupidity was too extreme for even the religious nuts in the state.
Quote from: Locutus on November 09, 2011, 01:22:39 PM
Well the people of Mississippi did better than I thought they would. I guess this stupidity was too extreme for even the religious nuts in the state.
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Quote from: Locutus on November 09, 2011, 01:22:39 PM
Well the people of Mississippi did better than I thought they would. I guess this stupidity was too extreme for even the religious nuts in the state.
yeah, gotta agree with you on that one....
Do you really have to be "religious" to oppose abortion? I fall more to the pro choice side of the issue but I have a cousin who is about as "unreligious" (is that a word? :)) as you can be. She doesn't put anyone down but I don't think she ever goes to church except to a wedding or funeral and yet she is so opposed to abortion she wouldn't go to a hospital or to a doctor whose office was in a building where abortions were performed. She says everyone deserves a chance to live.
No, I don't think you necessarily have to be religious to be anti-abortion, although the roots of these sorts of amendments fall squarely in the realm of religion. These people, who sponsored this amendment in Mississippi, think they're doing the will of the sky daddy by trying to force their views of what's right and what's wrong onto others.
"Personhood USA desires to glorify Jesus Christ in a way that creates a culture of life so that all innocent human lives are protected by love and by law."
http://www.personhoodusa.com/about
< Locutus thinks about bumping the God Sucks thread. >
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Quote from: Anne on November 10, 2011, 03:17:05 PM
Do you really have to be "religious" to oppose abortion? I fall more to the pro choice side of the issue but I have a cousin who is about as "unreligious" (is that a word? :)) as you can be. She doesn't put anyone down but I don't think she ever goes to church except to a wedding or funeral and yet she is so opposed to abortion she wouldn't go to a hospital or to a doctor whose office was in a building where abortions were performed. She says everyone deserves a chance to live.
Even the Old Troll doesn't like abortion. But, I am not going to force my feelings and that is all it is is feelings on some young girl or woman. It's her body and nobody and I mean nobody has any right to stick their nose in her business just because of feelings.
Until something comes a long that will prevent unwanted pregnancies, I will continue my same feeling about it.
Quote from: The Troll on October 30, 2011, 11:51:33 PM
I would like to know where the dumb ass Christians and the more than stupid men get the idea that abortion by anyone else is their business.
All I am sayin is, that federal tax dollars should NOT be paying for any Abortions. NONE! ZERO! If a woman desires an abortion, she needs to pay for it herself or find a charity org that pays for it.
On a personal level, I think abortions are a shame. I support Pro Life...because I think it is the right thing, that baby deserves a chance and not murdered.
On a citizens level........I just don't want tax dollars KILLING, what I believe is another innocent human life.
and that's all I got to say about that (in my forrest gump voice)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 10, 2011, 04:17:12 PM
On a citizens level........I just don't want tax dollars KILLING, what I believe is another innocent human life.
What about George W's Iraq and Afghanistan and our young troops. :confused:
Quote from: The Troll on November 10, 2011, 10:17:17 PM
What about George W's Iraq and Afghanistan and our young troops. :confused:
you mean the war that congress voted on? the war that we are still in with 6 years of democrat controll?
seriously troll, there is NO comparison between killing an innocent unborn baby and a war that congress voted upon....
let's stay on the subject.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 10, 2011, 10:55:12 PM
you mean the war that congress voted on? the war that we are still in with 6 years of democrat controll?
seriously troll, there is NO comparison between killing an innocent unborn baby and a war that congress voted upon....
let's stay on the subject.
OK, OK we will have abortions when they get older and die in an unwanted war.
You know Hawk when we had a strike vote we voted for it. Because if we didn't the company would think they had the upper hand and we wouldn't get anything. The vote in congress was the same way, none of them really wanted a war, but they wanted to send a message to Saddam that we were serious, but George W. and Cheney wanted war. That's what we got a Bush/Cheney war.
You know damn well Obama just couldn't just flat out, walk out on George W's wars. So just cut the bull shit. :rolleyes: :razz:
Quote from: The Troll on November 10, 2011, 11:31:22 PM
OK, OK we will have abortions when they get older and die in an unwanted war.
You know Hawk when we had a strike vote we voted for it. Because if we didn't the company would think they had the upper hand and we wouldn't get anything. The vote in congress was the same way, none of them really wanted a war, but they wanted to send a message to Saddam that we were serious, but George W. and Cheney wanted war. That's what we got a Bush/Cheney war.
You know damn well Obama just couldn't just flat out, walk out on George W's wars. So just cut the bull shit. :rolleyes: :razz:
isn't that what he is doing now?..............YES, he could have walked out, that is what he said he was going to do.........But, he waited just before electicon time to roll around to bring them home.
for what it is worth, I think Bush DID screw up big time with that war..........we should have pulled out as soon as SH was captured. Colin Powel suggested we broke it, so we had to fix it.....he listened to that and I think that is where we went wrong.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 11, 2011, 08:13:36 AM
isn't that what he is doing now?..............YES, he could have walked out, that is what he said he was going to do.........But, he waited just before electicon time to roll around to bring them home.
for what it is worth, I think Bush DID screw up big time with that war..........we should have pulled out as soon as SH was captured. Colin Powel suggested we broke it, so we had to fix it.....he listened to that and I think that is where we went wrong.
He damned if he does and he's damned if he doesn't. You just can't win with the present type of Republicans, anymore. :mad:
Quote from: The Troll on November 11, 2011, 08:40:52 AM
He damned if he does and he's damned if he doesn't. You just can't win with the present type of Republicans, anymore. :mad:
YOU are no different........you don't like conservatism, I don't like liberalism. YOU don't trust repubs, I don't trust dems. At one time there was conservative democrats....JFK, Harry Truman...Zell Miller. Those guys with that mentality are pretty much gone and liberalism has taken over the party.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 11, 2011, 09:09:26 AM
YOU are no different........you don't like conservatism, I don't like liberalism. YOU don't trust repubs, I don't trust dems. At one time there was conservative democrats....JFK, Harry Truman...Zell Miller. Those guys with that mentality are pretty much gone and liberalism has taken over the party.
:jester: :jester: How can you put JFK and Truman in the same class as Zell Miller. A crazy nut who put the 10 Commandants in his state house while he was governor. The dumb ass lost the job when he wouldn't take them out. What a fool. :genius:
Quote from: The Troll on November 11, 2011, 09:06:03 PM
:jester: :jester: How can you put JFK and Truman in the same class as Zell Miller. A crazy nut who put the 10 Commandants in his state house while he was governor. The dumb ass lost the job when he wouldn't take them out. What a fool. :genius:
He can put them in the same class because he knows absolutely nothing about JFK or Truman or really abou Zell Miller for that matter. You are arguing with someone whose only contributions on this or any other forum are what he's being fed. His job as one of the conservative minions has never been to analyze or understand the issues but to mindlessly propagate the message of "his" party (while they bend him over, shove their collective dick up his ass and take every last penny they can from him and his family.).
Quote from: Exterminator on November 11, 2011, 09:43:57 PM
He can put them in the same class because he knows absolutely nothing about JFK or Truman or really abou Zell Miller for that matter. You are arguing with someone whose only contributions on this or any other forum are what he's being fed. His job as one of the conservative minions has never been to analyze or understand the issues but to mindlessly propagate the message of "his" party (while they bend him over, shove their collective dick up his ass and take every last penny they can from him and his family.).
Well, I would like to lock him up in a solitary cell and make him watch MSNBC every night for a year. Either he would smarten up or commit suicide. :bliss: :bliss: