QuoteYou know how some night clubs and big party events charge guys more than women to get in?
Well, David Long Jr. of California is calling bullshit.
Long is pissed off that the fine folks over at Playboy had the gall to charge him hundreds more than women guests for a ticket to a bash at Hef's mansion, so he's filed a class action lawsuit in LA Superior Court against Playboy Enterprises International Inc. for unlawful discrimination.
According to the lawsuit, Long attended the third annual "White Party at the Playboy Mansion" in May 2009. The promoters used what Long is calling "gender-based pricing."
Long claims that men had to fork over at least $625 for a ticket, whereas "gorgeous ladies" were "offered a free or reduced price admission," and "less attractive women" only had to pay as much as $350 for a ticket.
Long, suing on behalf of all the men who attended the "White Party" or any other similar party at the Playboy Mansion, is claiming civil rights violations, saying that Playboy denied him "equal treatment under the law" by jacking up the prices for the same services just because he's a man.
Is this descrimination? Do they have a point? or does the independent businesses have the right to set prices however they choose? Apparently one court thought some men in a similar situation had a point.
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1081394.html
So, is it discrimination or sour grapes supported by law. Do they have any real rights to have access to these businesses?
Awwww Sandy, come on, now. Now that you women have got civil rights and change the playing floor of life here in America you want to play the game men use to play. Yes with the rule changes you women have, you girls have more rights than men. Especially sexual harassment. You dear sweet women "never Lie" about sex. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Fair and equal, right? We know why Playboy and the bars give reduced prices to women. Because you women don't and won't pay full price to go to a bar and it's the same thing with the Playboy Club. I have heard you women talking to each other on how many free drinks the dorks at the bar bought you women last night at the bar. Right? Love those dorks with money. :love: Those pretty boys don't work or have a job. You know I'm right, because no matter how bad you women may look, we all know that ugly women get better looking at closing time. :wink:
Charge one price for tickets and for the beauties, the women with the big false racks Brazilian butt lifts and inflated lips, pay them a little money and let them be part of Hugh Hefner's meat, boobs and bootie show.
No sour grapes, we got our civil rights too. The ugly women need to be suing too, even tho, they do get better looking at closing time. I know, it happened to me too. :wink: :biggrin: Love those ugly women, they kept the night from being complete bust, they still like to have a coffee and something to eat and a little loving when the show is over. :salute: :seeya2: :music1: The party's over :music1: Let's call it a day. :music1:
Personally I believe it is the right of the business owner to enact whatever admission charge structure they so choose. The fact is, if the jackasses suing would sober up long enough to think about it, if the clubs went to across the board pricing, those events would resemble nothing but a gay bar; with women shunning the high price venues.
Clubs enact the reduced/no admission pricing toward women in order to attract a higher number of them; knowing full well that a club full of women, average or good looking, or even ugly, is, bottom line, VERY good for business.
It is a basic business decision that has been used by night clubs, taverns, and other entertainment venues for decades, with great success in the lions share of the cases. Revenues on those nights where women are subject to reduced/no admission price, or reduced beverage pricing, are typically the highest generating nights of any given period; often determining the ongoing validity of keeping the business open.
My guess, this is sour grapes being brought forth by some micro-dicked, pre-mature ejaculator who couldn't get a date despite the fact the place was packed with women at a 4 to 1 ratio! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Sorry Troll, your're wrong. If anything the difference in prices is a marketing ploy which exploits women. If the bars weren't full of women, the men wouldn't be whining to get in.
When you say, "now that you women have civil rights..." Are you implying that civil rights shouldn't apply to women? And further, why shouldn't women expect equality?
PH, I agree with you.
IMO as long as it is a private organization and receives no taxpayer money they can charge whoever whatever they choose.
Sandy, I don't think women even now have complete equality in the workplace, esp. if you believe the articles about equal pay and promotions.
For a slightly different view, many years ago, my mother worked for GM (same plant as Troll's aunt) and at that time men were paid more than women, that changed in the 50's and more than a few of the women were upset about it because of it they could be assigned the dirtier, heavier jobs filled by men. The need Rosie the Riviter was gone and some women didn't want those jobs.
Tho I didn't state it. Hey, let the women in free. Fill the damn place with women. If I was back to running my traps the more the merrier. But what I said is true, the women know they sit on the greatest money maker and attention getter in the world for men, a roach motel for men and also they are to cheap too pay full price to get in. Cheap, cheap, cheap with "their" money but oh how they can spend your hard earned money. "Oh, I want one of those fancy drinks that cost $10, I don't know what's name, I just know it is expensive." "A beer? Barf!" :biggrin: :yes:
In my running days the women paid for nothing. Just the promise of a chance of what they were sitting on and that didn't happen to often, just offen enough to make you search more. ;D Not like to day, where the women call the men, and give the men all of the milk they want and the men don't have to buy the cow. :razz: A lot of the 21ST Century women love the pretty boys who won't work and just spread their seeds. After the girls have couple of unwed babies by these punks they hope and pray for a nerd, a not too good looking guy who work their ass off for their families. Then they find out even these men don't line up for a ready made family and it too late to have a happy life. Just not to smart. :yes:
But at the Playboy Meat Party and that is what it is, if they cut the price to women to nothing, the only women that would get in would be the faux and beautiful. Even if the women were put at the door deciding who get in it would be the same way. No room at the manger for the ordinary women.
Oh I can hear the hisses at the Troll for being crude, rude and if the men have large enough balls, they will admit, the Troll is telling the truth. :razz: :biggrin: :rotfl: :rotfl:
you seem to be arguing that at worst this is some sort of "reverse discrimination" that we, as men, should just suck up... being in power and all.
there really is no "reverse discrimination", and if you are in favor of "whatever pricing scheme" a business so chooses.. imagine if the sign outside a clup read:
whites: free...
hispanics: 250
blacks: 500
still a "discount"?
Quote from: awol on February 16, 2011, 10:03:48 AM
you seem to be arguing that at worst this is some sort of "reverse discrimination" that we, as men, should just suck up... being in power and all.
there really is no "reverse discrimination", and if you are in favor of "whatever pricing scheme" a business so chooses.. imagine if the sign outside a clup read:
whites: free...
hispanics: 250
blacks: 500
still a "discount"?
:think: Humm. . .Good point. However that would be a direct violation of the civil rights act would it not?
Quote from: awol on February 16, 2011, 10:03:48 AM
you seem to be arguing that at worst this is some sort of "reverse discrimination" that we, as men, should just suck up... being in power and all.
there really is no "reverse discrimination", and if you are in favor of "whatever pricing scheme" a business so chooses.. imagine if the sign outside a club read:
whites: free...
hispanics: 250
blacks: 500
still a "discount"?
According to the law it is discrimination and therefore illegal. If I was a bar owner I would let the women come in free. It's called bait. It draws in the fish (men) the people who has the money and willing to spend it. More the better. Or if you kept the women out it would cut out a lot of one night stand pregnancies. :wink:
What really bothers me is, if you own a bar or anything a bunch of do goodies can demand that you can't have any smoking in it. The way I feel is if you don't smoke and don't like it, STAY OUT. Nobody dragging your ass in there, now that's discrimination. :yes:
If the business owner denied entrance to one gender or the other, then I could understand a complaint about discrimination, but that's not the case. Also, if there is a case to be made based on prices, then I think we'd need to see the complete or usual pricing policies. For example, is this the pricing for a special event? And the prices are comparable at other times? Or even events where the pricing plan is in the reverse? Does the fact the prices are advertised and they make a choice to go or not play a factor?
Welcome to The Troll's Golden Towers Condos. I am glad all of you can to sign up and buy one of my condos. As you know they are all alike, all have balconies, two bed rooms.
Now over there Mr. Afro the condo will cost you $500,000 and you over there Miss Golden Hair Barbie your condo will cost you only $150,000. All it takes is if you want to play and pay or not.
Would I be legal. Is that what your saying. :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on February 16, 2011, 03:55:30 PM
Welcome to The Troll's Golden Towers Condos. I am glad all of you can to sign up and buy one of my condos. As you know they are all alike, all have balconies, two bed rooms.
Now over there Mr. Afro the condo will cost you $500,000 and you over there Miss Golden Hair Barbie your condo will cost you only $150,000. All it takes is if you want to play and pay or not.
Would I be legal. Is that what your saying. :biggrin:
Nope, there was more to what I said and this is a different scenario which happens all the time. It's not right, but prove it. I think housing is more necessary to life than bar-hopping.
Now read the rest, if the prices were analyzed for each night of the week and they favored on gender or the other for promotions and events or marketing, then would it be discrimination. For example, Sunday during football, guys can drink all they want for a cover of 10 bucks. Wednesday night is ladies night and they get a reduced cover. How is that unfair? I'm saying we need the whole picture to make a determination.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 16, 2011, 07:53:48 PM
Nope, there was more to what I said and this is a different scenario which happens all the time. It's not right, but prove it. I think housing is more necessary to life than bar-hopping.
Now read the rest, if the prices were analyzed for each night of the week and they favored on gender or the other for promotions and events or marketing, then would it be discrimination. For example, Sunday during football, guys can drink all they want for a cover of 10 bucks. Wednesday night is ladies night and they get a reduced cover. How is that unfair? I'm saying we need the whole picture to make a determination.
All I can say it's more fun to go the the bar on women's night that go there when you can drink all of the beer you want for $10.
But one thing I found out on women night. Knowing how to dance and being able to make the girls look like they knew how to dance and show them off payed off better than knowing how to stand, holding a beer with your tongue out. :drool1: :grin2:
I thought I'd drop by this thread because there appears to be a lot of confusion concerning 'public' and 'private' in regards to businesses.
A business may be 'privately' owned, but once it opens it doors to the 'public' that business is subject to all governmental regulations and rules etc. and may not do just any ole' thing that pops in the owners head.
Quote from: Y on February 20, 2011, 06:35:24 PM
I thought I'd drop by this thread because there appears to be a lot of confusion concerning 'public' and 'private' in regards to businesses.
A business may be 'privately' owned, but once it opens it doors to the 'public' that business is subject to all governmental regulations and rules etc. and may not do just any ole' thing that pops in the owners head.
"Y" we have a person on the Zone who thinks women are equal with men in football, wrestling any sport or just plain anything. I just don't believe they were born with the physical strength to pull of a lot of crap she putting out. What you think?
Quote from: The Troll on February 20, 2011, 07:11:33 PM
"Y" we have a person on the Zone who thinks women are equal with men in football, wrestling any sport or just plain anything. I just don't believe they were born with the physical strength to pull of a lot of crap she putting out. What you think?
So, if Y were to offer an opinion similar to mine, then you believe it? Does it take a man to make you realize how skewed your thinking is or were you attempting to look for reinforcements because your ego was getting a little bruised?
As I said, women have successfully transitioned into historically male dominated areas.
1) Careers
http://www.lvrj.com/living/womens-workfemales-are-thriving-in-traditionally-male-jobs-62091222.html
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=131474&page=1
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/censusandstatistics/a/menwomenjobs.htm
2) Politics
http://www.iwdc.org/resources/timeline.htm
http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/a/women_milestone.htm
3) Sports
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-110641/More-male-sports-attracting-women.html
http://www.wfafootball.com/
http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/developing/women/index.html
http://www.womensprosoccer.com/
http://www.womenboxing.com/
http://www.womenboxing.com/historic.htm
http://www.stockcarracing.com/featurestories/scrp_0604_nascar_female_drivers/index.html
People become involved in things, because that's what they're interested in. If they enjoy it, then they work harder, learn more about it and train for it. No one is born with the physical strength or skill. That's why they train.
Look MS. Little Round Pancake. I'll put up my men's best sports teams against any of your best Sissy teams no matter how many big dykes there was on it. The men would clean your clocks. Your panties would get bunched up and it would be all over and is would end up as one big Crying :cry: :cry: :cry: and bitching session. :biggrin: :wink: :grin2: MOTHER! Toll picking on me. :rotfl: Troll :no1: :thumbsup:
I'm sure men everywhere are proud of the way you represent "the real man" </sarcasm>
As I said before, your chest thumping and posturing means nothing in relation to reality. What's your real point, Troll? Why does equality offend you so much or is it that it scares you? Why do you care?
Does it make you feel all warm and manly to think you make someone cry? Is that what a "real man is" someone that bullies his way into shutting people down thinking their silence is respect? I don't take any of this seriously enough to cry. I hate to burst your bubble...well..no that's a lie.
Seriously, I find your comments rather stupid, but I don't care, showcase your stupidity. It's your floor.
Women should have women's teams and men should have men's teams, they should not commingle the teams anyway. :razz:
Quote from: me on February 21, 2011, 08:24:26 PM
Women should have women's teams and men should have men's teams, they should not commingle the teams anyway. :razz:
Why? :confused:
I disagree. In my area parks and rec teams are mixed. Those are adult teams as well as children's/teen's. There are all girl/boy teams too, but they play against each other. That's the way it should be.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 21, 2011, 06:19:42 PM
I'm sure men everywhere are proud of the way you represent "the real man" </sarcasm>
As I said before, your chest thumping and posturing means nothing in relation to reality. What's your real point, Troll? Why does equality offend you so much or is it that it scares you? Why do you care?
Does it make you feel all warm and manly to think you make someone cry? Is that what a "real man is" someone that bullies his way into shutting people down thinking their silence is respect? I don't take any of this seriously enough to cry. I hate to burst your bubble...well..no that's a lie.
Seriously, I find your comments rather stupid, but I don't care, showcase your stupidity. It's your floor.
Well, Baby Cakes, I am a real man who has told the truth. Only you can deny. But, if you married, I sympathize with him, he's hen pecked with chapped lips from kissing your butt. If you're divorced I know why and your ex is very happy now. If you dating the same guy you haven't seen your true side. If your dating the same guy and you talk to him like you talk to me. He has chapped lips from kissing you butt and he's one stupid son of a bitch. :biggrin: That's all for now, I'm reloading. :grin2:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 21, 2011, 08:45:17 PM
Why? :confused:
I disagree. In my area parks and rec teams are mixed. Those are adult teams as well as children's/teen's. There are all girl/boy teams too, but they play against each other. That's the way it should be.
Tennis, volleyball, non contact sports sure, maybe even softball or baseball, but football, basketball, wrestling and those types of sports, no especially high school, college, and pro sports. I'm sorry but I'm from the old school of boys have their thing and girls have theirs and the two shouldn't be mixed. Has nothing to do with not being equal it has to do with girls and boys are different and need to be separate in some things. The parks and rec teams are a whole different thing.
Quote from: me on February 22, 2011, 09:00:21 AM
Tennis, volleyball, non contact sports sure, maybe even softball or baseball, but football, basketball, wrestling and those types of sports, no especially high school, college, and pro sports. I'm sorry but I'm from the old school of boys have their thing and girls have theirs and the two shouldn't be mixed. Has nothing to do with not being equal it has to do with girls and boys are different and need to be separate in some things. The parks and rec teams are a whole different thing.
I'm sorry, but that doesn't make sense. What would be the difference?
I'm not saying there can't or shouldn't be gender specific teams, if that's what people want, but there's no good reason why it has to be that way for those who don't. I don't want to play football and maybe you don't either, but there are some girls/women out there who do or can and do. Look at mixed boxing.
If they can do it in parks and rec then why shouln't they do it in schools and professional teams?
My daughter played football and soccer on mixed teams and last year her all girl soccer team played mixed and boy teams in the league. She has also been on gymnastics and dance teams with boys.
I think it's a shame to limit a childs vision and interests by old school stereotypes that serve no real purpose.
BTW, Basketball is considered a "non-contact" sport.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 22, 2011, 09:16:45 AM
I'm sorry, but that doesn't make sense. What would be the difference?
I'm not sayimg there can't or shouldn't be gender specific teams, if that's what people want, but there's no good reason why it has to be that way for those who don't. I don't want to play football and maybe you don't either, but there are some girls/women out there who do or can and do. Look at mixed boxing.
If they can do it in parks and rec then why shouldn't they do it in schools and professional teams?
My daughter played football and soccer on mixed teams and last year her all girl soccer team played mixed and boy teams in the league. She has also been on gymnastics and dance teams with boys.
I think it's a shame to limit a childs vision and interests by old school stereotypes that serve no real purpose.
Boys need to be boys without having to be concerned about hurting or offending a girl in sports. Dance teams, gymnastics, and non contact sports are different. Just recently there was a case where a high school boy gave up a possible championship because he didn't want to wrestle a girl in the national contest because he didn't feel it was appropriate. Again, has nothing to do with equality has to do with respect for women. Not only that but if the guy should accidentally touch the girl in an inappropriate place while playing is she or her parents gonna run to the principle or other authority and complain about it? Why can't some people just realize all things can not and should not be equal?
Quote from: me on February 22, 2011, 09:44:18 AM
Boys need to be boys without having to be concerned about hurting or offending a girl in sports. Dance teams, gymnastics, and non contact sports are different. Just recently there was a case where a high school boy gave up a possible championship because he didn't want to wrestle a girl in the national contest because he didn't feel it was appropriate. Again, has nothing to do with equality has to do with respect for women. Not only that but if the guy should accidentally touch the girl in an inappropriate place while playing is she or her parents gonna run to the principle or other authority and complain about it? Why can't some people just realize all things can not and should not be equal?
That's what got this whole "discussion" started. That young man copped-out. It's much easier to turn down a championship for supposedly honorable reasons than to face his friends after getting beaten by a girl. They all touch each other in inappropriate spots in wrestling. :biggrin: She made it that far so I'm sure she knew what to expect if he had actually had the courage to wrestle her.
This is one of those things that I won't be able to change your mind. You're too set in your ways so I'm not going to try. Some people are just incapable of realizing there isn't a real good reason why everything isn't equal. I will say, don't be surprised by the number of traditionally male or female sports that become coed in the future. I just hope the kids like the one that tossed the championship are ready for it.
Quote from: me on February 22, 2011, 09:44:18 AM
Boys need to be boys without having to be concerned about hurting or offending a girl in sports. Dance teams, gymnastics, and non contact sports are different. Just recently there was a case where a high school boy gave up a possible championship because he didn't want to wrestle a girl in the national contest because he didn't feel it was appropriate. Again, has nothing to do with equality has to do with respect for women. Not only that but if the guy should accidentally touch the girl in an inappropriate place while playing is she or her parents gonna run to the principle or other authority and complain about it? Why can't some people just realize all things can not and should not be equal?
Well, thank you "ME" we are old school, the best times were the 50's 60's. 21ST and the 22nd Centuries are not going to be good times for both sexes. They are going to be a each other throats for power and control. It isn't going to be good for marriage or the kids. They are maning up the girls and girling down the boys. Isn't good for either and sure isn't a pretty picture of future life. Manish girls and girlie boys. Hell we got that now. Just look at the kids.
Thankfully, the 50 and 60's are gone and those backwards-assed ideas are dying out.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 22, 2011, 10:19:49 AM
Thankfully, the 50 and 60's are gone and those backwards-assed ideas are dying out.
:kissit: Ms. Pancake.
Quote from: The Troll on February 22, 2011, 02:49:14 PM
:kissit: Ms. Pancake.
Other than a little man hating MEN--> :kick: <--Eggo How's this equal rights crap working out for you? Not as well as if you had a brain in your head. :rotfl: :grin2:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 22, 2011, 10:08:18 AM
That's what got this whole "discussion" started. That young man copped-out. It's much easier to turn down a championship for supposedly honorable reasons than to face his friends after getting beaten by a girl. They all touch each other in inappropriate spots in wrestling. :biggrin: She made it that far so I'm sure she knew what to expect if he had actually had the courage to wrestle her.
This is one of those things that I won't be able to change your mind. You're too set in your ways so I'm not going to try. Some people are just incapable of realizing there isn't a real good reason why everything isn't equal. I will say, don't be surprised by the number of traditionally male or female sports that become coed in the future. I just hope the kids like the one that tossed the championship are ready for it.
Males and females were different for a reason and there are certain things that just shouldn't be equal. Since when is what that boy did a sign of being weak or chicken? Maybe those she wrestled before she got there held back so they wouldn't hurt her you just don't know. Maybe she took advantage of the situation to get as high as she did and you know darn well it happens. You know back when all this silliness started I remember women wanting to ban men only clubs but screaming like banshee's when men wanted to ban their little sewing circles and women only things they did. Ya can't have it both ways and a lot of women forge that. They want that type of equality but only on their terms.
Should men help the women with the housework, yes, should they help raise the kids, yes, equal pay for equal work, yes, but some things should remain separate and sports is one of them.
Ah, traditions, customs, and mores.
Many other cultures don't have our hangups and do quite nicely.
The boy reflects his parents' teachings.
I wonder if, years from now when he reaches full mental maturity, he'll regret not wrestling her.
But other cultures also have their separation of genders even though the types of separations may vary from culture to culture.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 22, 2011, 05:01:56 PM
Ah, traditions, customs, and mores.
Many other cultures don't have our hangups and do quite nicely.
The boy reflects his parents' teachings.
I wonder if, years from now when he reaches full mental maturity, he'll regret not wrestling her.
No more men's night out for you. :razz:
Quote from: me on February 22, 2011, 04:25:30 PM
Males and females were different for a reason
Besides the obvious difference in reproductive organs, what is different about males and females and what is the reason they're different? You think it has to do with sports. :rotfl:
Quote from: me on February 22, 2011, 04:25:30 PM
and there are certain things that just shouldn't be equal.
Like what and under who's authority?
Quote from: me on February 22, 2011, 04:25:30 PM
Since when is what that boy did a sign of being weak or chicken?
It's just as likely an explanation as the rambling crap below. How many people was she required to wrestle to get to the championships? I'm not a numbers person, but I would think that odds are more likely that one person threw the match (the last one) rather than ALL of the people she had to wrestle to get to the finals. If the other's didn't throw it and she didn't get hurt, then why would the last one throw it? I think it's obvious, but I don't know any more than you do.
Quote from: me on February 22, 2011, 04:25:30 PM
Maybe those she wrestled before she got there held back so they wouldn't hurt her you just don't know. Maybe she took advantage of the situation to get as high as she did and you know darn well it happens.
I don't know any such thing, particularly in this case. Prove it.
Quote from: me on February 22, 2011, 04:25:30 PM
You know back when all this silliness started I remember women wanting to ban men only clubs but screaming like banshee's when men wanted to ban their little sewing circles and women only things they did. Ya can't have it both ways and a lot of women forge that. They want that type of equality but only on their terms. Should men help the women with the housework, yes, should they help raise the kids, yes, equal pay for equal work, yes, but some things should remain separate and sports is one of them.
What silliness? The silliness that gives women the right to function in society as equals, vote, work, equal pay, etc? I'm sure those are rights you wouldn't want to lose, but yet you'd take a woman's right away to compete in a sport that she enjoys and trains for. Sounds like YOU'RE the one that wants it both ways.
Why would she train to wrestle to a boy wrestling program? To try to be different? I feel she proved nothing. She's a spoiler and a loser. Maybe if you mannish women could grow a pair bullocks then we might let you in men's sports.
I think some laws should made that if you mannish women want to compete in men's sports. There cannot be any liability or law suits when you get your ass kicked or your head is torn off. :grin2: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on February 22, 2011, 08:44:04 PM
Why would she train to wrestle to a boy wrestling program? To try to be different? I feel she proved nothing. She's a spoiler and a loser. Maybe if you mannish women could grow a pair bullocks then we might let you in men's sports.
I think some laws should made that if you mannish women want to compete in men's sports. There cannot be any liability or law suits when you get your ass kicked or your head is torn off. :grin2: :biggrin:
I would imagine because she wanted to. How many female wrestling teams does her school district offer? Perhaps that was her only option.
I don't imagine sports in Indiana is that much different than anywhere else. Waivers are required or they can't play.
So, maybe you have first-hand knowledge of sports related lawsuits? Why don't you provide some substance to your argument by researching and posting the figures and statistics of lawsuits filed by women injured playing an historically male sport.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 22, 2011, 09:28:41 PM
I would imagine because she wanted to. How many female wrestling teams does her school district offer? Perhaps that was her only option.
I don't imagine sports in Indiana is that much different than anywhere else. Waivers are required or they can't play.
So, maybe you have first-hand knowledge of sports related lawsuits? Why don't you provide some substance to your argument by researching and posting the figures and statistics of lawsuits filed by women injured playing an historically male sport.
Henry Hawk Eggo, I'm not going to waste my time and energy to argue with a flaming Feminist idiot. My god, you have your got your head up your ass. You're just like Henry, you don't make any sense and and your certainly not going to get any frigging sense.
Have at it. You can't win no matter how high you stack your bullshit. I quit and I didn't lose. :wall: :flap: :flap: What a man hater. :wall:
Well Sandy, I guess you wouldn't mind if the guy's come along on your woman's night out then huh? Equal rights ya know.
Quote from: me on February 23, 2011, 04:03:03 AM
Well Sandy, I guess you wouldn't mind if the guy's come along on your woman's night out then huh? Equal rights ya know.
It's hard for me to take this question seriously. Although I'm not sure that equal rights means that a couple can't spend time away from each other, I wouldn't care.
Quote from: The Troll on February 22, 2011, 10:41:58 PM
Henry Hawk Eggo, I'm not going to waste my time and energy to argue with a flaming Feminist idiot. My god, you have your got your head up your ass. You're just like Henry, you don't make any sense and and your certainly not going to get any frigging sense.
Have at it. You can't win no matter how high you stack your bullshit. I quit and I didn't lose. :wall: :flap: :flap: What a man hater. :wall:
Translation: You've got nothing.
Here folks, we have a perfect example of an internet bully wanna be. When he perceives himself to be cornered, he comes out huffing, puffing and slinging insults. This technique is used to prevent further brusing of his tender ego and to help him maintain a little sensation of having "won" something.
Tell ya what Troll. When you're ready to "man-up" and discuss a topic like an adult, let us know.
:party: :beer:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 23, 2011, 06:14:18 AM
:party: :beer:
Can't you find something on you own. Using Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle and Michell Bachman stupid language. When you grow some balls we'll talk about the difference between men and women. You don't seem to be educated in those things.
:catnutty: :music1: I am woman hear me roar :rant: :music1: In numbers to big to ignore. :music1: And I know to much to go back and pretend :music1: 'cause I've heard it all before. :music1: AND I'VE BEEN DOWN ON THE FLOOR. :cry: :music1: No one's gonna keep me down. :cry: :music1: I am woman, I am woman hear me roar! :rant: :cry: :catnutty: :laugh: :laugh: :grin2: Grow a set. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :biggrin:
How is it working for you. :cry: :wink: :smile:
My, my.
For a tough guy you're showing a lot of sensitivity and emotion.
You don't even know why I posted those icons.
And I don't need to prove what a big man I am by screaming it to the world.
Feelings of inadequacy surfacing again?
Geez. Sorry about that.
Grow a pair. :smile:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 23, 2011, 10:59:56 AM
My, my.
For a tough guy you're showing a lot of sensitivity and emotion.
You don't even know why I posted those icons.
And I don't need to prove what a big man I am by screaming it to the world.
Feelings of inadequacy surfacing again?
Geez. Sorry about that.
Grow a pair. :smile:
Thanks for your input Asshole. Dr. Wolfie, why don't you find some prisoners you can abuse. :grin2:
But all of that to the side, the post I wrote was to Ms. Eggo, I intentionally use you site. But since it touched your nibshit button it really doesn't matter. But there are some people who just want to stick their noses in other peoples business. Damn I like to meet you face to face and see how you would talk to me. You're all mouth. :yes: :biggrin:
Yep.
Could have predicted your response.
Going to physical threats. Typical.
Might just get sticky for ya, though. Played Division III college football -- linebacker.
Am currently 6' 5" and 265. Work out regularly and currently bench 255.
Never abused prisoners -- didn't have to.
You, on the other hand, are a real piece of work.
No, really.
Sincerely.
You make me laugh. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
(http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/partytime.gif) (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/beer.jpg)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 23, 2011, 01:11:13 PM
(http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/partytime.gif) (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/beer.jpg)
Me too :biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 23, 2011, 12:47:51 PM
Yep.
Could have predicted your response.
Going to physical threats. Typical.
Might just get sticky for ya, though. Played Division III college football -- linebacker.
Am currently 6' 5" and 265. Work out regularly and currently bench 255.
Never abused prisoners -- didn't have to.
You, on the other hand, are a real piece of work.
No, really.
Sincerely.
You make me laugh. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on February 23, 2011, 09:08:14 AM
Can't you find something on you own. Using Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle and Michell Bachman stupid language. When you grow some balls we'll talk about the difference between men and women. You don't seem to be educated in those things.
:catnutty: :music1: I am woman hear me roar :rant: :music1: In numbers to big to ignore. :music1: And I know to much to go back and pretend :music1: 'cause I've heard it all before. :music1: AND I'VE BEEN DOWN ON THE FLOOR. :cry: :music1: No one's gonna keep me down. :cry: :music1: I am woman, I am woman hear me roar! :rant: :cry: :catnutty: :laugh: :laugh: :grin2: Grow a set. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :biggrin:
How is it working for you. :cry: :wink: :smile:
Your proposition; your responsibility to provide supporting facts. I'm not doing your work for you.
You'll have to use your brain for this one, 'cause your balls can't help you here. :biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 23, 2011, 12:47:51 PM
Yep.
Could have predicted your response.
Going to physical threats. Typical.
Might just get sticky for ya, though. Played Division III college football -- linebacker.
Am currently 6' 5" and 265. Work out regularly and currently bench 255.
Never abused prisoners -- didn't have to.
You, on the other hand, are a real piece of work.
No, really.
Sincerely.
You make me laugh. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
I didn't know they could stack bull shit that high. All mouth. Now I know you don't like and I feel the same about you. Your are an authoritarian with no one to bully. Your crap and bull shit won't work on me you're just a little prick with a big booming mouth. :o :rolleyes:
Joke all you want, because you're the 6'5" 265 Jerk, the Tinkerbell :tink: :rolleyes: :razz:
Bench 255 pounds :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: OOOOOH! Give us a break :rotfl: :rotfl: and you sit around and eat chicken wings and read. :rotfl: :rotfl: What a damn joke. :rotfl: :stop: you're killing me. :stop: I can't take it. :rotfl:
and THIS folks, is exactly WHY, I decided NOT to feed the troll any longer...... :no:
he speaks so much about things he knows NOTHING about...
But that is JUST my opinion.... ;)
Quote from: The Troll on February 23, 2011, 02:01:06 PM
I didn't know they could stack bull shit that high. All mouth. Now I know you don't like and I feel the same about you. Your are an authoritarian with no one to bully. Your crap and bull shit won't work on me you're just a little prick with a big booming mouth. :o :rolleyes:
Joke all you want, because you're the 6'5" 265 Jerk, the Tinkerbell :tink: :rolleyes: :razz:
Bench 255 pounds :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: OOOOOH! Give us a break :rotfl: :rotfl: and you sit around and eat chicken wings and read. :rotfl: :rotfl: What a damn joke. :rotfl: :stop: you're killing me. :stop: I can't take it. :rotfl:
:bs:
Hypocritical much?
I don't think anyone here has seen you do anything except :blah: :blah: :blah:
Typically in any discussion, someone makes a point, then they provide sources or facts to support that point. Everyone gets it, you, can't be bothered. If challenged you digress into bully mode. You also don't get that doesn't make your arguments valid, just ridiculous.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 23, 2011, 02:24:24 PM
and THIS folks, is exactly WHY, I decided NOT to feed the troll any longer...... :no:
he speaks so much about things he knows NOTHING about...
But that is JUST my opinion.... ;)
Well, listen to the big :chick: hawk. Pile on Twinkie. I don't think I'm the only one you can't feed. I think Palehorse and "Y" sorta gets to you too. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: The little baby boy just can't take it. Waaaa Waaa Waaaa! :laugh: :rolleyes: I gonna take my computer and go home. :'( :'( :'( :rolleyes:
I bet you're sure happy the Republicans are trying to break the unions and hurt the American workers in Indiana, Ohio and Wisconsin. I'll bet you would have like union busting when your dad was working for GM and, you could have lived so better with out the UAW. :wink:
Don't feed the Troll, man that's old trash talk can't you come up with something newer and modern. :blah: :blah: :blah: :suck: :suck: :suck: :salute: :no1: The one and only Troll. :grin2:
I love this guy.
Just like a fish. Takes the bait EVERY time.
Never learns.
Just wiggle it a tad, and here he comes -- mouth wide open, brain nonexistent.
Ya just GOTTA love it.
Oh, well, fun's over.
Back to work.
(And, by the way, troll, everything I posted above is absolutely true. And I'd take you up on your invitation to visit if I lived closer. Not to get into a chest-thumper with you; just so you could learn the truth when you hear it.)
:smitten: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :iloveyou: :trustme: :yeah: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :grin2: :grin2: :dance: :dance: :clap: :clap: :clap:
I put all of these here 'cuz you like cartoons and little bits of shiny things.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 23, 2011, 02:24:24 PM
and THIS folks, is exactly WHY, I decided NOT to feed the troll any longer...... :no:
he speaks so much about things he knows NOTHING about...
But that is JUST my opinion.... ;)
'mon back, Hank.
What they said, Henry.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 23, 2011, 04:39:20 PM
I love this guy.
Just like a fish. Takes the bait EVERY time.
Never learns.
Just wiggle it a tad, and here he comes -- mouth wide open, brain nonexistent.
Ya just GOTTA love it.
Oh, well, fun's over.
Back to work.
(And, by the way, troll, everything I posted above is absolutely true. And I'd take you up on your invitation to visit if I lived closer. Not to get into a chest-thumper with you; just so you could learn the truth when you hear it.)
:smitten: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :iloveyou: :trustme: :yeah: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :grin2: :grin2: :dance: :dance: :clap: :clap: :clap:
I put all of these here 'cuz you like cartoons and little bits of shiny things.
Sure I like shiny things and intelligent people. It's to bad I haven't talked to any in the past two day. :biggrin:
The only thing I really got against you Wolfie is that your mouth has wrote so many checks your ass can't cash. I wouldn't believe anything you said, even if your tongue was notarized. :trustme: Oh yeah, you're getting good with smiley faces. :yes: :wink: Keep up the good work. At least they are fun to watch. :grin2: :seeya2: :dark: :kiss:
Hasn't changed yet.
Not likely to.
Dropped a couple of points.
STILL taking the bait.
Catch and release.
Never gets old.
:biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 23, 2011, 08:05:45 PM
Hasn't changed yet.
Not likely to.
Dropped a couple of points.
STILL taking the bait.
Catch and release.
Never gets old.
:biggrin: :biggrin:
Just beating a dead horse :deadhorse: Who in hell cares what you think. You over rate yourself. Asshole! Two can play the bad marks, so hang on. :kiss:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 23, 2011, 08:05:45 PM
Hasn't changed yet.
Not likely to.
Dropped a couple of points.
STILL taking the bait.
Catch and release.
Never gets old.
:biggrin: :biggrin:
How in hell did you get 205 good feed backs. All I have heard you say is :puke: I think things will change. :kiss: :trustme:
So much for feed back points. You shot :rifle: them all to hell. :love:
The points I was referencing were I.Q. points.
Still doesn't get it.
Probably never will.
Bad hard wiring. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 24, 2011, 02:54:45 AM
The points I was referencing were I.Q. points.
Still doesn't get it.
Probably never will.
Bad hard wiring. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 24, 2011, 02:54:45 AM
The points I was referencing were I.Q. points.
Still doesn't get it.
Probably never will.
Bad hard wiring. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Talk about the deal of the century. It would be to buy you for what you are really worth to this world and sell you for what you think you're worth. You self pride sure stinkth. Talking about IQ, look how stupid you are for arguing with me.
No matter how what you say or do in your post, you will always be a slime bag to me. Your wasting a lot of your hot air. :puke: WOLFIE :love: :sweetheart: :kiss:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 24, 2011, 02:54:45 AM
The points I was referencing were I.Q. points.
Still doesn't get it.
Probably never will.
Bad hard wiring. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
:biggrin:
Quote from: me on February 24, 2011, 07:08:28 AM
:biggrin:
Now you done it. He'll make a copy of this and wear the smiley face you gave him to his next card game with all of his "friends". :rotfl: :rotfl: He sure funny. :rotfl:
Quote from: The Troll on February 23, 2011, 04:18:12 PM
Well, listen to the big :chick: hawk. Pile on Twinkie. I don't think I'm the only one you can't feed. I think Palehorse and "Y" sorta gets to you too. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: The little baby boy just can't take it. Waaaa Waaa Waaaa! :laugh: :rolleyes: I gonna take my computer and go home. :'( :'( :'( :rolleyes:
I bet you're sure happy the Republicans are trying to break the unions and hurt the American workers in Indiana, Ohio and Wisconsin. I'll bet you would have like union busting when your dad was working for GM and, you could have lived so better with out the UAW. :wink:
Don't feed the Troll, man that's old trash talk can't you come up with something newer and modern. :blah: :blah: :blah: :suck: :suck: :suck: :salute: :no1: The one and only Troll. :grin2:
Troll, I'm not sure WHY I am even responding back to you, but I can say without a doubt that regarding Palehorse or Y, I have zero problems with....NONE....I have exchanged with them for 7 or 8 years now....and I can say that they both are friends of mine, and I'm sure they will both agree.
Troll, I know how you feel on EVERY subject and it is pointless to waste my time with you. I know it has gotten that way for others towards myself....I am just as set and solid in my beliefs. I have merely decided that I am focusing on my work and less time on here. I have always been fortunate to have a job that has allowed me to do my job and spend some time here. As of recent times, I have been given more responsiblity that does not allow me the luxury to put the efforts in to a good discussion.
I still enjoy coming by and reading and making sure that all my forums buddies are doing okay. :yes:
As far as WI, IN and OH.....the will of the people will dictate what is best for their state. ;)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 24, 2011, 08:10:46 AM
Troll, I'm not sure WHY I am even responding back to you, but I can say without a doubt that regarding Palehorse or Y, I have zero problems with....NONE....I have exchanged with them for 7 or 8 years now....and I can say that they both are friends of mine, and I'm sure they will both agree.
Troll, I know how you feel on EVERY subject and it is pointless to waste my time with you. I know it has gotten that way for others towards myself....I am just as set and solid in my beliefs. I have merely decided that I am focusing on my work and less time on here. I have always been fortunate to have a job that has allowed me to do my job and spend some time here. As of recent times, I have been given more responsiblity that does not allow me the luxury to put the efforts in to a good discussion.
I still enjoy coming by and reading and making sure that all my forums buddies are doing okay. :yes:
As far as WI, IN and OH.....the will of the people will dictate what is best for their state. ;)
I'm so happy for you! :love: and a :kiss:
Quote from: The Troll on February 24, 2011, 08:45:01 AM
I'm so happy for you! :love: and a :kiss:
right back at ya big guy.... :kiss:
Quote from: The Troll on February 24, 2011, 07:07:23 AM
Talk about the deal of the century. It would be to buy you for what you are really worth to this world and sell you for what you think you're worth. You self pride sure stinkth. Talking about IQ, look how stupid you are for arguing with me.
No matter how what you say or do in your post, you will always be a slime bag to me. Your wasting a lot of your hot air. :puke: WOLFIE :love: :sweetheart: :kiss:
I certainly do agree with the part about how stupid I am for arguing with you.
As for the rest of it ----- :rolleyes:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 24, 2011, 10:27:41 AM
I certainly do agree with the part about how stupid I am for arguing with you.
As for the rest of it ----- :rolleyes:
:grin2: :biggrin: :thumbsup:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 24, 2011, 10:27:41 AM
I certainly do agree with the part about how stupid I am for arguing with you.
As for the rest of it ----- :rolleyes:
Quote from: The Troll on February 24, 2011, 04:37:40 PM
:grin2: :biggrin: :thumbsup:
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPPPPP :rotfl: I know Trolls are short but really......
Quote from: me on February 24, 2011, 07:36:13 PM
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPPPPP :rotfl: I know Trolls are short but really......
:biggrin:
You know those little cardboard hands you sometimes find in new gloves? Maybe he could staple one of those to a headband and wear that to catch the ones that go flying over his head.
Quote from: Olias on February 25, 2011, 08:47:36 AM
:biggrin:
You know those little cardboard hands you sometimes find in new gloves? Maybe he could staple one of those to a headband and wear that to catch the ones that go flying over his head.
Who are you talking about Oliias, like to know what the joke is. Maybe I would like to pile on too. There are people on here who can't fight their own battles
their buddies have to pile it too. Their :chick:
Looks around. Doesn't understand anything.
*cricket*
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSYIN_P4oh_qpBKiAlkjmh4e8yhob2TRCE3TorccKLIK99obSIF)
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 25, 2011, 01:27:41 PM
Looks around. Doesn't understand anything.
*cricket*
Try this cricket, scumbag. :finger1:
*silence*
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 25, 2011, 03:45:58 PM
*silence*
:silence: Good, your getting the message too. :thumbsup: :biggrin:
Quote from: Olias on February 25, 2011, 01:39:30 PM
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:food24: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Yer killin me!
Quote from: The Troll on February 26, 2011, 11:07:05 AM
:silence: Good, your getting the message too. :thumbsup: :biggrin:
Whooooooooooshhhhhhhhhhhh.
OOOOOooooooooooh!!!!
Pretty shiny things!!!!
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 26, 2011, 02:47:26 PM
Whooooooooooshhhhhhhhhhhh.
OOOOOooooooooooh!!!!
Pretty shiny things!!!!
The more comments you make proves what a dick you are. Old man. Bench press 250 pounds :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Liaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar! :biggrin: :wacko:
Even pressing 255, I still couldn't lift your ego.
But a helium balloon would float away your interpersonal skills.
OOOOoooooooo more shiny things.
:yes: :yes: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 26, 2011, 04:31:28 PM
Even pressing 255, I still couldn't lift your ego.
But a helium balloon would float away your interpersonal skills.
OOOOoooooooo more shiny things.
:yes: :yes: :biggrin: :biggrin:
:biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 26, 2011, 04:31:28 PM
Even pressing 255, I still couldn't lift your ego.
But a helium balloon would float away your interpersonal skills.
OOOOoooooooo more shiny things.
:yes: :yes: :biggrin: :biggrin:
What a liar, lies, lies and those shiny things must be the windmills in your mind. Liar. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: What a frigging liar. :wacko:
Been lifting all my life, you who built your own airplane.
OOOOOOOoooooooooooh!!!! And sometimes they moooove!!!
Prettty!!!
Still doesn't get it.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 26, 2011, 07:09:03 PM
Been lifting all my life, you who built your own airplane.
OOOOOOOoooooooooooh!!!! And sometimes they moooove!!!
Prettty!!!
Still doesn't get it.
Your damn right meathead. Built a Benson Gyrocopter with a 80 HP McCulloch engine. It had a 22 foot rotor.
Just Google in Gyrocopter and you can see what it looked like. Go back and clean some more cow hides. :biggrin: I also had pilots license and own a part of my own plane. Smart enough to fly a plane liar? NO, don't tell me you were a Ace in Nam. :rotfl: :rotfl: I bet you had a problem riding a bicycle. :biggrin: With all of those big muscles, between your ears. :yes: :biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 26, 2011, 07:09:03 PM
Been lifting all my life, you who built your own airplane.
OOOOOOOoooooooooooh!!!! And sometimes they moooove!!!
Prettty!!!
Still doesn't get it.
I seriously doubt it was a real plane. Maybe a model, but even that would be mentally taxing for him...he MUST be lying. :yes:
:swim: :swim: :swim: :fish:
Quote from: Palehorse on February 26, 2011, 11:10:04 PM
:swim: :swim: :swim: :fish:
I alternate between fun and boredom doing this.
:boredone: :biggrin:
Out-trolling the troll.
Like taking what from a what?
Maybe he'll leave the ad hominem attacks alone for a while if he's chasing me.
:run:
Quote from: me on February 27, 2011, 01:31:29 AM
:run:
I know.
A long shot.
Behavior modification the hard way.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 27, 2011, 07:07:24 AM
I know.
A long shot.
Behavior modification the hard way.
Good luck Sir Liar. Good luck. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :wacko:
Quote from: me on February 27, 2011, 01:31:29 AM
:run:
With all that food you eat, you probably need a treadmill. :rotfl: :rotfl: :laugh: :scale: :music1: :boohoo: :music1: But you're not smiling. :salute:
Quote from: The Troll on February 27, 2011, 09:20:54 AM
Good luck Sir Liar. Good luck. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :wacko:
Gotta admit.
Never saw anyone work so hard at making ignorance a calling.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 27, 2011, 12:57:05 PM
Gotta admit.
Never saw anyone work so hard at making ignorance a calling.
I got to say one thing, you are the picture boy for ignorance. You prove it in each and every post. :music1: Bring in the Clown :music1: :salute: I hope you're having fun, I am. :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :biggrin:
:pop:
ho-hum
You still don't get it.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 27, 2011, 02:55:57 PM
:pop:
ho-hum
You still don't get it.
And you don't get it too. :shots: You could drive a person to drink, but my wife already does that. :biggrin:
By all means, don't let me stop you.
Maybe you should listen to your wife.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 27, 2011, 03:23:46 PM
By all means, don't let me stop you.
Maybe you should listen to your wife.
Damn you're funny. :biggrin: