. . . Only it isn't the doctor getting ready to manipulate your prostate. . .
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- One of California's largest health insurers - Blue Shield - announced plans to hike its premiums by as much as 59%.
The jacked up premium rates are set to take effect on March 1, pending review from state insurance regulators. The move impacts 193,000 individual Blue Shield policy holders. . . .
http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/07/news/companies/California_blue_shield_rate_hike/index.htm?hpt=T2http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/07/news/companies/California_blue_shield_rate_hike/index.htm?hpt=T2 (http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/07/news/companies/California_blue_shield_rate_hike/index.htm?hpt=T2http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/07/news/companies/California_blue_shield_rate_hike/index.htm?hpt=T2)
I told you, but noooooo. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on January 07, 2011, 06:36:18 PM
. . . Only it isn't the doctor getting ready to manipulate your prostate. . .
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- One of California's largest health insurers - Blue Shield - announced plans to hike its premiums by as much as 59%.
The jacked up premium rates are set to take effect on March 1, pending review from state insurance regulators. The move impacts 193,000 individual Blue Shield policy holders. . . .
http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/07/news/companies/California_blue_shield_rate_hike/index.htm?hpt=T2http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/07/news/companies/California_blue_shield_rate_hike/index.htm?hpt=T2 (http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/07/news/companies/California_blue_shield_rate_hike/index.htm?hpt=T2http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/07/news/companies/California_blue_shield_rate_hike/index.htm?hpt=T2)
I told you, but noooooo. . .
I bet that "ME" and Henry thinks it a good. I can remember in one of "ME" posts where she said she didn't care what corporations charged for their products.
I still say we merely have to fix the problem of those who don't have insurance. THEY are creating the problem. NOT, those who have insurance. Hospitals HAVE to treat everyone who walks through those doors, and that cost is passed on to those of us who DO pay.
Instead of redoing the entire HC industry....lets fix the problem for the 32 million, instead of the 300 million. Let's close boarders. Let's take a look at tort reform.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 09, 2011, 01:52:33 PM
I still say we merely have to fix the problem of those who don't have insurance. THEY are creating the problem. NOT, those who have insurance. Hospitals HAVE to treat everyone who walks through those doors, and that cost is passed on to those of us who DO pay.
Instead of redoing the entire HC industry....lets fix the problem for the 32 million, instead of the 300 million. Let's close boarders. Let's take a look at tort reform.
We all know that we can go to the emergency room ONCE for One Problem. What about the People who Sherron Angle is killing out in Arizona. One guy had a liver and they gave it away to someone else, because Sharron Angle cancelled health care. What word could you use for her. Mine is BITCH! Hell, let's kill all of the sick poor people. Hawk would pray for them. :pray: :pope:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 09, 2011, 01:52:33 PM
I still say we merely have to fix the problem of those who don't have insurance. THEY are creating the problem. NOT, those who have insurance. Hospitals HAVE to treat everyone who walks through those doors, and that cost is passed on to those of us who DO pay.
Instead of redoing the entire HC industry....lets fix the problem for the 32 million, instead of the 300 million. Let's close boarders. Let's take a look at tort reform.
So, just how would YOU fix that Hank? In fact, how do you think our "savior" republican congress will fix it? (They won't)
The POTUS had a plan and congress gutted it to make sure it didn't negatively impact the insurance companies, so they again start jacking up the rates just like I said they would.
I don't disagree surrounding your reasoning in the above, it is an integral part of my argument for the government option int he POTUS's plan. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on January 09, 2011, 03:05:05 PM
So, just how would YOU fix that Hank? In fact, how do you think our "savior" republican congress will fix it? (They won't)
The POTUS had a plan and congress gutted it to make sure it didn't negatively impact the insurance companies, so they again start jacking up the rates just like I said they would.
I don't disagree surrounding your reasoning in the above, it is an integral part of my argument for the government option int he POTUS's plan. . .
Hell, Hank doesn't know, the Teabaggers don't know and the Republicans don't know. All they know is that they don't want any poor people to have health insurance. And that's a fact.
Quote from: The Troll on January 09, 2011, 06:32:16 PM
Hell, Hank doesn't know, the Teabaggers don't know and the Republicans don't know. All they know is that they don't want any poor people to have health insurance. And that's a fact.
I agree. . .
Who has ever said they don't want poor people to have health insurance? No one on this forum that I have read. Maybe you, Troll and PH should give them yours, or just give them half of yours. I don't notice anyone giving theirs up or even offering to. What is your solution? I haven't read where any of you have a solution. You just keep saying President Obama did and his DEMOCRATIC congress messed it up. Guess they didn't like it either.
Quote from: Anne on January 09, 2011, 06:56:17 PM
Who has ever said they don't want poor people to have health insurance? No one on this forum that I have read. Maybe you, Troll and PH should give them yours, or just give them half of yours. I don't notice anyone giving theirs up or even offering to. What is your solution? I haven't read where any of you have a solution. You just keep saying President Obama did and his DEMOCRATIC congress messed it up. Guess they didn't like it either.
I'd give it to them if I had it. And I don't. I am one of them! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
The opposition on this forum, just as in congress, does not care about those of us who are left uninsured through no fault of our own or circumstances in life. They don't care because they think it doesn't impact them. And they are wrong.
Quote from: Anne on January 09, 2011, 06:56:17 PM
Who has ever said they don't want poor people to have health insurance? No one on this forum that I have read. Maybe you, Troll and PH should give them yours, or just give them half of yours. I don't notice anyone giving theirs up or even offering to. What is your solution? I haven't read where any of you have a solution. You just keep saying President Obama did and his DEMOCRATIC congress messed it up. Guess they didn't like it either.
There we go. Baby Cakes, I have UAW insurance and Medicare just like you. Let's face the facts, you don't know a damn thing you're talking about. Just poison KoolAid :koolaid:
Still no solutions.
Quote from: Anne on January 09, 2011, 07:20:11 PM
Still no solutions.
Sure do. It would be the best of all of Canada, England, Germany, Belgium, Japan and all of the other countries in the free world. Is easy take the best of all of the health plans. They have been doing it for years. We could do it without experimenting.
Quote from: Anne on January 09, 2011, 07:20:11 PM
Still no solutions.
THE solution was in the original bill put forth by the current POTUS. But as has been the case since it was first presented, the opposition doesn't want to see it or admit it because of who presented it. They couldn't care less about the fact it would have fixed this whole mess. . . And they never will. . .
They will never have a solution by half fixing anything. I think if they would have actually said in plain english what President Obama's bill said they would have had a much better chance of passing it. Instead they (the people who were charged with passing the bill) had their town halls and said they didn't read it and we would know what was in the bill after it was passed. Made people mad.
If you want a single payor type of medical care then someone who is brave enough and has enough power stand up and say on January 10, 2011 all medical care will be controlled by the US government and then set up some kind of system to take care of all the people who are out of jobs. There is obviously no one around yet who is willing to do that.
Single payor healthcare systems are not the be all and end all of medical care. There are a lot of long waits for treatment and some things we take for granted are not always available. My husband's cousin lives in Buffalo, NY, and there are always Canadians who come there for cataract surgery because (they telll her) the wait is so long in Canada because it is not life threatening.
Quote from: The Troll on January 09, 2011, 07:00:43 PM
There we go. Baby Cakes, I have UAW insurance and Medicare just like you. Let's face the facts, you don't know a damn thing you're talking about. Just poison KoolAid :koolaid:
Don't call me Babycakes. No Medicare, yet. Still don't see you giving that up or even helping someone get on our policy with you. All talk.
Quote from: Anne on January 09, 2011, 10:35:48 PM
Don't call me Babycakes. No Medicare, yet. Still don't see you giving that up or even helping someone get on our policy with you. All talk.
Why should I. I helped two families get through bad times your little ole sweetheart George W. brought us. :razz: What a D.A. Baby Cakes "Ann"
Quote from: Anne on January 09, 2011, 10:32:25 PM
They will never have a solution by half fixing anything. I think if they would have actually said in plain english what President Obama's bill said they would have had a much better chance of passing it. Instead they (the people who were charged with passing the bill) had their town halls and said they didn't read it and we would know what was in the bill after it was passed. Made people mad.
If you want a single payor type of medical care then someone who is brave enough and has enough power stand up and say on January 10, 2011 all medical care will be controlled by the US government and then set up some kind of system to take care of all the people who are out of jobs. There is obviously no one around yet who is willing to do that.
Single payor healthcare systems are not the be all and end all of medical care. There are a lot of long waits for treatment and some things we take for granted are not always available. My husband's cousin lives in Buffalo, NY, and there are always Canadians who come there for cataract surgery because (they telll her) the wait is so long in Canada because it is not life threatening.
Hell, you've read so much of that propaganda you believe it yourself! :rotfl:
It wasn't government run healthcare until the healthcare companies told you it was. . . THEY don't want to be REGULATED because it will cut into their profits and ability to jack your rates up 59% or more every year! THEY don't want the uninsured to have medical insurance because it would eliminate the false justification they use for jacking up your rates 59% or higher every year! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Yea, tho I walk through the valley of death, I will feel no fear. My 45 automatic to comfort me. Why? Because I'm the meanest son-of-a-bitch in the valley.
My 45 is right there, right now. Cops, well, maybe a half hour. :yes: :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 09, 2011, 03:05:05 PM
So, just how would YOU fix that Hank? In fact, how do you think our "savior" republican congress will fix it? (They won't)
The POTUS had a plan and congress gutted it to make sure it didn't negatively impact the insurance companies, so they again start jacking up the rates just like I said they would.
I don't disagree surrounding your reasoning in the above, it is an integral part of my argument for the government option int he POTUS's plan. . .
congress has not gutted anything ....for God's sake they only been in power for less than a week.....give me a fucking break!
Troll, are you really serious ? Sharon Angle KILLED someone? REALLY? THIS is the kind of rehtoric that makes politics SUCK!!!!!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 10, 2011, 09:04:36 AM
congress has not gutted anything ....for God's sake they only been in power for less than a week.....give me a fucking break!
Troll, are you really serious ? Sharon Angle KILLED someone? REALLY? THIS is the kind of rehtoric that makes politics SUCK!!!!!
So. . . in your mind "they" passed the bill as it was sent to them??? Are you out of your mind???? :spooked: :spooked:
Now, as for the "newest" pack of blathering jackals; they're tripping over each other to repeal what little that was accomplished by the outgoing jackals. . .
No they didn't pass the bill that President sent to them, they messed with it and as a result nothing really worked. Nothing went right and nothing will go right until someone listens.
Quote from: Anne on January 10, 2011, 11:03:58 AM
No they didn't pass the bill that President sent to them, they messed with it and as a result nothing really worked. Nothing went right and nothing will go right until someone listens.
So how much is Hank paying you to be his mouthpiece? Huh Cookie?
Quote from: Palehorse on January 10, 2011, 04:40:07 PM
So how much is Hank paying you to be his mouthpiece? Huh Cookie?
grow up! so much for your new years resolution.....keep on with the personal attacks!!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 10, 2011, 04:44:19 PM
grow up! so much for your new years resolution.....keep on with the personal attacks!!
Mirror - Hank. . .
And I already admitted that the AZ incident caused me to break that resolution. . .
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 10, 2011, 09:04:36 AM
congress has not gutted anything ....for God's sake they only been in power for less than a week.....give me a fucking break!
Troll, are you really serious ? Sharon Angle KILLED someone? REALLY? THIS is the kind of rehtoric that makes politics SUCK!!!!!
You're damn right. Obama gave her $30 Million and she blew all of that and took money from the health plan. On top of that a guy had a donated liver, but he didn't have the money to have it put in. Because the Bitch took the money away. She killed that man because he just died without a new liver. :finger01:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 10, 2011, 09:04:36 AM
congress has not gutted anything ....for God's sake they only been in power for less than a week.....give me a fucking break!
This from the guy who was bitching about Obama not having fixed the economy four minutes after he was sworn in? Are you for real?
Quote from: Palehorse on January 10, 2011, 04:40:07 PM
So how much is Hank paying you to be his mouthpiece? Huh Cookie?
My name is not Cookie, (I guess you have the same problem with names that Troll has, can't read) and Why would I be anyone's mouthpiece?
Quote from: Anne on January 11, 2011, 11:53:00 AM
My name is not Cookie, (I guess you have the same problem with names that Troll has, can't read) and Why would I be anyone's mouthpiece?
Whatever. . . :rolleyes:
If you aren't his mouthpiece, then why are you answering for him?
Quote from: Anne on January 11, 2011, 11:53:00 AM
My name is not Cookie, (I guess you have the same problem with names that Troll has, can't read) and Why would I be anyone's mouthpiece?
Anne, I might like the name Cookie better than Baby Cakes. We'll I see what comes up the next post to you. :wink: :smile:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 11, 2011, 12:00:07 PM
Whatever. . . :rolleyes:
If you aren't his mouthpiece, then why are you answering for him?
For some reason I thought you were talking to me, my mistake.
Quote from: The Troll on January 11, 2011, 01:19:39 PM
Anne, I might like the name Cookie better than Baby Cakes. We'll I see what comes up the next post to you. :wink: :smile:
Why would I like the name Cookie? I have relatives who are called Cookie because their last name is similar to that but not mine.
Quote from: Anne on January 11, 2011, 02:29:48 PM
Why would I like the name Cookie? I have relatives who are called Cookie because their last name is similar to that but not mine.
I not trying to rhyme your name, I'm just trying to tweak you. Doing a good job, right? :biggrin:
I thought you might think I was someone who went by the name Cookie on another forum. If you must call me by something other than my name you might try Domestic Diva. I am thinking of using that in the occupation line of my federal tax return this year. ;D
Quote from: Anne on January 11, 2011, 10:37:00 PM
I thought you might think I was someone who went by the name Cookie on another forum. If you must call me by something other than my name you might try Domestic Diva. I am thinking of using that in the occupation line of my federal tax return this year. ;D
Will that put you over the $300,000 a year income. Watch out, the IRS loves titles. :laugh:
Don't I wish, nope, just a fancier job description.