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Title: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: me on August 28, 2010, 04:23:46 PM
What??????  You have got to be kidding.  There'd better be a damn good reason for this.  :rant:


From Adam Levine
CNN


(CNN) -- The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, the suspect in the bombing of the destroyer USS Cole, according to a Pentagon spokesman.


The charges were dropped "without prejudice" by Susan Crawford, convening authority at the U.S. prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, according to Pentagon spokesman Cmdr. Jeffrey Gordon. The proceeding did not address specifics of the government's case against al-Nashiri, who remains a "high value" detainee held at Guantanamo.

In removing the charges without prejudice, prosecutors can resubmit charges at a later date while at the same time complying with President Barack Obama's order to the military to hold off on cases for four months.

On his first day in office, Obama ordered the halt, requiring prosecutors to seek delays in the 14 active cases before military commissions there. But the judge, Col. James Pohl, ordered arraignment for Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri to go ahead as scheduled on Monday.

With this move, all cases at Guantanamo are now in line with the president's order to halt court proceedings at the detention center, according to Gordon.

Al-Nashiri is accused of planning the October 2000 bombing of the Cole while it was in the Yemeni port of Aden. The attack killed 17 American sailors and crippled the vessel, which returned to service in 2002.

The Office of Military Commissions, which manages the prosecutions of suspected terrorists, said last week that it might have to temporarily drop charges against al-Nashiri to comply with the presidential order.
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When prosecutors asked for a continuance in the trial, Pohl denied the request, saying the government's "argument for continuances were unpersuasive," according to a copy of his opinion. Pohl noted there had been no previous requests for a delay, and that the public's interest in a speedy trial would be harmed by further delay.

Al-Nashiri was captured in 2002. He was held in secret locations until being transferred to Guantanamo Bay in 2006.

Meanwhile, the White House has invited families of sailors who died in the Cole bombing to meet with Obama on Friday.

A number of the families were called Thursday afternoon, according to Andrew Hall, the lawyer who represented families.

The invitation was for the families to attend "without their lawyers," according to Hall. They were not told why they were going to meet with Obama, he added.

According to the White House schedule for Friday, Obama will meet privately with families of the Cole attack and also with families of victims of the 9/11 attacks.

"The president wants to talk with these families about resolving the issues involved with closing Guantanamo Bay -- while keeping the safety and security of the American people as his top priority," the schedule said.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/05/uss.cole.bombing/index.html
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: The Troll on August 28, 2010, 04:51:42 PM

  Well, I have always thought that they were holding a lot of people with no proveable evidence.

  If the glove doesn't fit you can't convict.  It is ridicules to hold a person for 8 years without a trial.  Here in American we are suppose to receive a due and timely trial.

  Now Cheney needs to be put on trial for what he did to these people.
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: Henry Hawk on August 28, 2010, 06:12:51 PM
I swear liberals WILL be the destruction of this country....they have NO common sense...and they just keep on and on and on.......THAT is why we have tea parties....it is NOT just a republican thing...it is people sick of liberals....socialist liberals...

it is so simple to see, and yet, so many just sit in that pot of warm water with the heat turned on...and soon, they will be boiling and it will be too late.  :no:
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: The Troll on August 28, 2010, 06:54:44 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 28, 2010, 06:12:51 PM
I swear liberals WILL be the destruction of this country....they have NO common sense...and they just keep on and on and on.......THAT is why we have tea parties....it is NOT just a republican thing...it is people sick of liberals....socialist liberals...

it is so simple to see, and yet, so many just sit in that pot of warm water with the heat turned on...and soon, they will be boiling and it will be too late.  :no:

  Oh, I TeVoed the Glen Beck Teabagger Party Revival.  I had to run for the :spot: and put my finger down my throat. and :puke:  Jerry Farwell is back and boy oh boy is he pissed and he's in the body of Glen Beck.  :rotfl: :rotfl:  What a Joke.  Black entertainers,  Black preachers and  Black uncles toms on the stage and old White Teabaggers in the audience.  :headbang:  It looked like Branson Mo. on religion.  Some body say Amen!  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: Henry Hawk on August 28, 2010, 06:58:42 PM
yeah that was horrible thing he did.....raising money for veterans..how much money did Al Sharpten raise today?.....Beck has more integrity than Sharpten ANY day of the week.
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: The Troll on August 28, 2010, 07:50:39 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 28, 2010, 06:58:42 PM
yeah that was horrible thing he did.....raising money for veterans..how much money did Al Sharpten raise today?.....Beck has more integrity than Sharpten ANY day of the week.

  Yeah, he raised a little money.  But he should have raised more.  The Millionaire Bastard only makes $38 Million a year.  What a Hero.  He could give $8 million and take off his taxes and still have $30 million left.  Hell, Henry you and I could live on that, don't you think?

  Then all he has to do is SUCKER SOME OLD  PEOPLE in to buying GOLD marked up 400% and he would get the $8 million back fast.  Heeeeeeee  goooooood peopleeeeeeeeee.  Somebody say Amen for good old Glen.  Let us :bow: and :pray:  :kickcan: Put something $ in the pot boy.
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: Exterminator on August 30, 2010, 09:51:11 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 28, 2010, 06:12:51 PM
I swear liberals WILL be the destruction of this country....they have NO common sense...and they just keep on and on and on.......THAT is why we have tea parties....it is NOT just a republican thing...it is people sick of liberals....socialist liberals...

You have a really bad habit of projecting your opinions onto everyone else and claiming that the 'vast majority' blah, blah, blah.  Speak for yourself and stop trying to make it seem like everyone agrees with you because we don't.  This forum can be seen as a microcosm of society in general; how many people here agree with your warped, uninformed viewpoints and how many don't?
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: Henry Hawk on August 30, 2010, 10:42:09 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on August 30, 2010, 09:51:11 AM
You have a really bad habit of projecting your opinions onto everyone else and claiming that the 'vast majority' blah, blah, blah.  Speak for yourself and stop trying to make it seem like everyone agrees with you because we don't.  This forum can be seen as a microcosm of society in general; how many people here agree with your warped, uninformed viewpoints and how many don't?

bullshit, this forum is a liberal forum....and does NOT represent real life by any means....MOST of my conservative friends don't waste time on such miniscule events as this, I'm not sure why I waste my time here to be honest with you........and suck it, I will state my opinions BASED upon what I know as facts....this next election will merely support what i am claiming as facts...and that will be the vast majority. ;)
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: Locutus on August 30, 2010, 12:40:45 PM
Quote from: me on August 28, 2010, 04:23:46 PM
What??????  You have got to be kidding.  There'd better be a damn good reason for this.  :rant:


The reason for it can be found in the very article you pasted had you bothered to even read it.   :rolleyes:

And from the looks of his reply, HH didn't bother to read it either. 
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: me on August 30, 2010, 01:24:08 PM
Quote from: Locutus on August 30, 2010, 12:40:45 PM
The reason for it can be found in the very article you pasted had you bothered to even read it.   :rolleyes:

And from the looks of his reply, HH didn't bother to read it either.
I read the reason for it and don't agree with it. 
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: Locutus on August 30, 2010, 01:29:05 PM
Quote from: me on August 30, 2010, 01:24:08 PM
I read the reason for it and don't agree with it. 

Why not?  This doesn't in any way mean he's getting off.  Do you even understand that fact?
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: Exterminator on August 30, 2010, 01:46:29 PM
Quote from: Locutus on August 30, 2010, 12:40:45 PM
The reason for it can be found in the very article you pasted had you bothered to even read it.   :rolleyes:

And from the looks of his reply, HH didn't bother to read it either.

Being able to read might be a prerequisite in this case.
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: me on August 30, 2010, 02:20:05 PM
Quote from: Locutus on August 30, 2010, 01:29:05 PM
Why not?  This doesn't in any way mean he's getting off.  Do you even understand that fact?
I understand what they meant but I also understand that the delay means he could also be released because of the right to a speedy trial if they aren't allowed to refile soon. 
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: Locutus on August 30, 2010, 02:30:55 PM
Quote from: me on August 30, 2010, 02:20:05 PM
I understand what they meant but I also understand that the delay means he could also be released because of the right to a speedy trial if they aren't allowed to refile soon. 

PUHLEEEZE!!  That's merely stupid supposition on your part.  Speedy trial?  They've had him in custody since November of 2002.  If they were affording this guy any Constitutional rights, he would have been tried a long time ago. 

BTW, just to quash some of your outrage, if they ever did decide to release this guy without charging him, he would most likely be turned over to Yemeni authorities.  He's under a death sentence in Yemen for the Cole bombing.  But I guess you didn't know that.  :wink:
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: Henry Hawk on August 30, 2010, 02:31:54 PM
Quote from: Locutus on August 30, 2010, 12:40:45 PM
The reason for it can be found in the very article you pasted had you bothered to even read it.   :rolleyes:

And from the looks of his reply, HH didn't bother to read it either. 

I was responding more so to Trolls comments....
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: Locutus on August 30, 2010, 06:25:14 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 30, 2010, 02:31:54 PM
I was responding more so to Trolls comments....

Oh, ok.  Thanks for the clarification. 
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: The Troll on August 30, 2010, 06:38:04 PM

  Ok, answer me this.  Why hold him, why try him and why should we have spent so much money on him.

  jUST TURN HIM OVER TO YEMAN AND KILL ONE BIRD WITH ONE STONE.  :behead:

 
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: me on August 30, 2010, 06:38:39 PM
Quote from: The Troll on August 30, 2010, 06:38:04 PM
  Ok, answer me this.  Why hold him, why try him and why should we have spent so much money on him.

  jUST TURN HIM OVER TO YEMAN AND KILL ONE BIRD WITH ONE STONE.  :behead:


That would be my thoughts.
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: Anne on August 30, 2010, 06:45:53 PM
Did I miss something in the article, why would turning him over to Yemen be an option. I believe they have let all the others go.
Title: Re: The U.S. government has dropped charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri
Post by: The Troll on August 30, 2010, 06:51:52 PM
Quote from: Anne on August 30, 2010, 06:45:53 PM
Did I miss something in the article, why would turning him over to Yemen be an option. I believe they have let all the others go.

  When you come in you got to go back and look and the other post.  Go back up 5 post.  Locutus said that he was under a death sentice in Yemen for the Cole naval ship bombing.