I'm finally convinced Bush isn't a smart man
http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/06/22/gen-mcchrystal-and-the-losing-war/
But he won Iraq. We're losing this war because of politics.
Quote from: Doc on June 23, 2010, 07:09:41 PM
I'm finally convinced Bush isn't a smart man
http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/06/22/gen-mcchrystal-and-the-losing-war/
But he won Iraq. We're losing this war because of politics.
You go with that.
You finally pulling your head out of the oil barrel Doc? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 23, 2010, 07:30:13 PM
You finally pulling your head out of the oil barrel Doc? :rolleyes:
Amazing.
Just when you think you've heard the most abjectly absurd reasoning that would cause a gibbon to erupt into peals of laughter, along comes............
Quote from: followsthewolf on June 23, 2010, 07:38:02 PM
Amazing.
Just when you think you've heard the most abjectly absurd reasoning that would cause a gibbon to erupt into peals of laughter, along comes............
They are like roaches. . .
Where's the Exterminator when ya need him?
But not like rabbits 'cause that would be a sin :spooked:
Be interesting to see if the Dem's make fun of Petraeus now that the anointed one has chosen him to replace McChrystal.
Quote from: me on June 23, 2010, 07:52:43 PM
Be interesting to see if the Dem's make fun of Petraeus now that the anointed one has chosen him to replace McChrystal.
Nothing quite like LIBERAL HYPOCRISY to go along with the LIBERAL VITRIOL AND HATE toward the real Americans.
An' jes' who would them "real Americans" be, doc?
Quote from: Palehorse on June 23, 2010, 07:30:13 PM
You finally pulling your head out of the oil barrel Doc? :rolleyes:
Obama put all the blame on Bush even after almost 2 years in office. Some leadership.
Quote from: followsthewolf on June 23, 2010, 07:57:30 PM
An' jes' who would them "real Americans" be, doc?
The real Americans will show themselves in November 2012 and show their power at the ballots. From delusion to reality is a short shrift. It won't be the traitor liberals smiling when its said and done.
Won't be you closet nazi, zealots either!
Quote from: Palehorse on June 23, 2010, 08:14:08 PM
Won't be you closet nazi, zealots either!
"Socialism is a Philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherit virtue is the equal sharing of misery", Winston Churchill said this. You can't find victory in socialism.
Quote from: Doc on June 23, 2010, 08:17:42 PM
"Socialism is a Philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherit virtue is the equal sharing of misery", Winston Churchill said this. You can't find victory in socialism.
Yet the author of that little piece you posted is a socialist jew. . . :rolleyes:
They're okay as long as they support your perspectives. . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Quote from: Doc on June 23, 2010, 07:09:41 PM
I'm finally convinced Bush isn't a smart man
http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/06/22/gen-mcchrystal-and-the-losing-war/
But he won Iraq. We're losing this war because of politics.
Hell, you could have won the Iraq war, even with you head up your ass. With the United States of American's, Army, Marines, Air Force and the Navy. Hell we can kill, tear up and desroy any asshole, that wants it.
You were sure "Slow" on George W. Just think you voted for him twice and the Old Fart, John Mccain and Moose/Moose Barby. I would think "Slow" is under rated. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 23, 2010, 08:18:28 PM
Yet the author of that little piece you posted is a socialist jew. . . :rolleyes:
They're okay as long as they support your perspectives. . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You mean pejoratives?
Geez... I get so tired of being the mom...
The title of this thread is ".... and the Losing War."
Okay, sugar, I'll take this one step at a time.
It isn't "lost."
It's just "misplaced."
Try to remember... where was it last time you remember having it.?
Quote from: LOsborne on June 23, 2010, 08:38:55 PM
Geez... I get so tired of being the mom...
The title of this thread is ".... and the Losing War."
Okay, sugar, I'll take this one step at a time.
It isn't "lost."
It's just "misplaced."
Try to remember... where was it last time you remember having it.?
Now, 'at 'ere's funnah, no matter who ya is!!!
I'm still grinnin' about that!! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
:biggrin:
Just retrace your steps...
Quote from: me on June 23, 2010, 07:52:43 PM
Be interesting to see if the Dem's make fun of Petraeus now that the anointed one has chosen him to replace McChrystal.
Democrats love good, smart, intellegent Soliders. That's why we pick him. Your the smartass that's trying to make something out of it. :genius: Is that why you picked George W., you thought he was so smart and intellegent. :rotfl: :rotfl: :flap: :flap: :salute:
Quote from: Doc on June 23, 2010, 07:56:21 PM
Nothing quite like LIBERAL HYPOCRISY to go along with the LIBERAL VITRIOL AND HATE toward the real Americans.
You consider yourself a real American? HAH! :kissit: Doc :devil4: Troll :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Hell
I honestly don't know how Doc survives. I hope he has caretakers. ;D
Quote from: The Troll on June 23, 2010, 10:55:11 PM
Democrats love good, smart, intellegent Soliders. That's why we pick him. Your the smartass that's trying to make something out of it. :genius: Is that why you picked George W., you thought he was so smart and intellegent. :rotfl: :rotfl: :flap: :flap: :salute:
That's strange. When Bush picked Petraeus the Dems were saying how dumb he was and calling him General betrayus. Don't act like that didn't happen now that Obama picked him.
Quote from: me on June 24, 2010, 10:07:23 AM
That's strange. When Bush picked Petraeus the Dems were saying how dumb he was and calling him General betrayus. Don't act like that didn't happen now that Obama picked him.
Let's see how Ronald Reagan would handle this, I don't recall that, I can't remember that, That did seem to happen that way. As for me I don't think it happened the way you said it. More :bs: from "ME".
Quote from: The Troll on June 24, 2010, 12:57:34 PM
Let's see how Ronald Reagan would handle this, I don't recall that, I can't remember that, That did seem to happen that way. As for me I don't think it happened the way you said it. More :bs: from "ME".
Sorry Troll but yes it did. I think you'd better go do a little research on what was said about him when Bush appointed him.
Quote from: me on June 24, 2010, 10:07:23 AM
That's strange. When Bush picked Petraeus the Dems were saying how dumb he was and calling him General betrayus. Don't act like that didn't happen now that Obama picked him.
On April 23, 2008, Secretary of Defense Gates announced that President Bush was nominating General Petraeus to command U.S. Central Command (USCENTCOM), headquartered in Tampa, Florida. The nomination required, and received, Senate confirmation.
Interesting that you see his assignment as negative, instead of the positive it is. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on June 24, 2010, 03:15:17 PM
On April 23, 2008, Secretary of Defense Gates announced that President Bush was nominating General Petraeus to command U.S. Central Command (USCENTCOM), headquartered in Tampa, Florida. The nomination required, and received, Senate confirmation.
Interesting that you see his assignment as negative, instead of the positive it is. . .
I remember somebody was saying the words, General Berayus. But from what I had read that he was a great general.
Who the nuts were that were calling him names I don't know. Everybody has Nuts Cases in their party. Look and the Republican's, they have the Teabaggers, their religious and crazy.
:wacko: :jester: :preach: :flap: :flap: :pink: :pink: :pink: :pink: and the Holy :ghost: money :stirthepot:
The Troll :flag: :salute: :tiphat:
This type of message comes from the same bunch that is saying the POTUS deliberately caused the oil leak in the gulf.
They need to put the crack pipe down! :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 24, 2010, 03:15:17 PM
On April 23, 2008, Secretary of Defense Gates announced that President Bush was nominating General Petraeus to command U.S. Central Command (USCENTCOM), headquartered in Tampa, Florida. The nomination required, and received, Senate confirmation.
Interesting that you see his assignment as negative, instead of the positive it is. . .
I see it as a positive but surely you remember all the grief Bush got for choosing him.
Quote from: me on June 24, 2010, 06:20:22 PM
I see it as a positive but surely you remember all the grief Bush got for choosing him.
Bush got grief for wiping his ass with the constitution and lying.
Anything he did after that was suspect.
We'll see how the confirmation hearings go. . . IF they ever get to them. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on June 24, 2010, 06:22:54 PM
Bush got grief for wiping his ass with the constitution and lying. Anything he did after that was suspect.
We'll see how the confirmation hearings go. . . IF they ever get to them. . .
If the Republican walk in goose step as usal, we got enough Democrats that will vote him in. No Problem. We got to do something.
Quote from: The Troll on June 24, 2010, 06:26:35 PM
If the Republican walk in goose step as usal, we got enough Democrats that will vote him in. No Problem. We got to do something.
You hard headed old fart the Republicans have already chosen him once why wouldn't they do it again? It was the Dems who didn't like him when Bush chose him.
Taliban endorses General Petraeus, say new US Afghanistan war chief 'not smarter' than McChrystal
(http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/06/24/2010-06-24_taliban_endorses_general_petraeus_say_new_us_afghanistan_war_chief_not_smarter_t.html)
:biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 24, 2010, 06:46:30 PM
Taliban endorses General Petraeus, say new US Afghanistan war chief 'not smarter' than McChrystal
(http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/06/24/2010-06-24_taliban_endorses_general_petraeus_say_new_us_afghanistan_war_chief_not_smarter_t.html)
:biggrin: :biggrin:
Sure they would 'cause they know that will get everyone upset at Obama since he had been Bush's man too.
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Quote from: me on June 24, 2010, 06:52:43 PM
Sure they would 'cause they know that will get everyone upset at Obama since he had been Bush's man too.
Did that sound better in your head? :biggrin: :think:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 24, 2010, 06:57:00 PM
Did that sound better in your head? :biggrin: :think:
They're playing head games in other words.
Quote from: me on June 24, 2010, 06:20:22 PM
I see it as a positive but surely you remember all the grief Bush got for choosing him.
The epithet appeared in an ad in the New York Times on Sept. 10, 2007, purchased by MoveOn.org. It directly addressed a report given by the General lauding the progress in Iraq. The report was unrealistically sunny, but the General was only following orders.
This was back when the Pentagon had that bizarre equation for counting casualties -- for example, it's only an assassination if the bullet goes into the back of the head, not the front.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2007/09/general_betray_us.html
The epithet, in the form of "Senator Betray-Us" was first used by that jolly joker, Rush Limbaugh, to attack Sen. Chuck Hagel, a decorated Nam vet.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/23/23220/3999
Continue with your playground war of "he did it first, and he did it worst."
Quote from: Palehorse on June 24, 2010, 06:55:16 PM
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You know these Son of bitching Rag heads over there have to be crazy to go up a gainst a fight force with their AK47 and some rockets. Talk about religious bumasses.
Quote from: me on June 24, 2010, 07:01:18 PM
They're playing head games in other words.
If the NY Daily News was a reliable news source and not a tabloid, I might believe they said that and then I'd agree with you.
Quote from: followsthewolf on June 23, 2010, 07:41:45 PM
Where's the Exterminator when ya need him?
Avoiding inanity and working with my dog. You can teach a dog; you can't teach a conservative. :biggrin:
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Quote from: Exterminator on June 25, 2010, 02:09:19 PM
Avoiding inanity and working with my dog. You can teach a dog; you can't teach a conservative. :biggrin:
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: Exterminator on June 25, 2010, 02:09:19 PM
Avoiding inanity and working with my dog. You can teach a dog; you can't teach a conservative. :biggrin:
(http://keithgrossman.com/sight.jpg)
I know how ya feel about the dog.
And conservatives. :smile: :smile:
Quote from: Exterminator on June 25, 2010, 02:09:19 PM
Avoiding inanity and working with my dog. You can teach a dog; you can't teach a conservative. :biggrin:
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THIS IS THE SAME THING YOU LOONY LIBERALS LAMBASTED SARAH PALIN FOR!
Quote from: Palehorse on June 24, 2010, 06:22:54 PM
Bush got grief for wiping his ass with the constitution and lying. Anything he did after that was suspect.
We'll see how the confirmation hearings go. . . IF they ever get to them. . .
In a classic example of liberal hypocrisy, the far-left leaning, George Soros-funded group MoveOn.org has removed its controversial "General Betray Us" ad from its website.
For those that have forgotten, shortly after General David Petraeus issued his report to Congress in September 2007 concerning the condition of the war in Iraq and the success of that March's troop surge, MoveOn placed a full-page ad in the New York Times with the headline, "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?"
This created quite a firestorm with media outlets on both sides of the aisle circling the wagons to either defend or berate both the Times and MoveOn.
Now that President Obama has appointed Petraeus to replace the outgoing Gen. Stanley McChrystal to lead the war effort in Afghanistan, the folks on the far-left that castigated Petraeus when he worked for the honorable President George W. Bush have to sing a different tune.
I guess MoveOn couldn't possibly bash this General now that he's working for Obama.
Quote from: Doc on June 27, 2010, 10:04:41 AM
In a classic example of liberal hypocrisy, the far-left leaning, George Soros-funded group MoveOn.org has removed its controversial "General Betray Us" ad from its website.
For those that have forgotten, shortly after General David Petraeus issued his report to Congress in September 2007 concerning the condition of the war in Iraq and the success of that March's troop surge, MoveOn placed a full-page ad in the New York Times with the headline, "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?"
This created quite a firestorm with media outlets on both sides of the aisle circling the wagons to either defend or berate both the Times and MoveOn.
Now that President Obama has appointed Petraeus to replace the outgoing Gen. Stanley McChrystal to lead the war effort in Afghanistan, the folks on the far-left that castigated Petraeus when he worked for the honorable President George W. Bush have to sing a different tune.
I guess MoveOn couldn't possibly bash this General now that he's working for Obama.
The Honorable President George W. Bush, my ass. How about George W. the most stupidist president America has every had. Who in Hell care what MoveOn has to say. Just like who cares what you say. I know that's Bull Shit :bs:
Quote from: Doc on June 27, 2010, 10:00:53 AM
THIS IS THE SAME THING YOU LOONY LIBERALS LAMBASTED SARAH PALIN FOR!
Not even close but I can see why it would appear so to a simpleton.
Quote from: Exterminator on June 27, 2010, 01:27:37 PM
Not even close but I can see why it would appear so to a simpleton.
Exterminator, have you ever seen such a divide in this country. And, have you every seen some many religious crack pots.
They talk about this country going to hell, it's the religious Loonies that are doing it. These people are completely CRAZY. Can anyone in their right mind want to live under their control. It would be just like living under the Taliban.
Quote from: Exterminator on June 27, 2010, 01:27:37 PM
Not even close but I can see why it would appear so to a simpleton.
And the difference would be?
Quote from: me on June 27, 2010, 08:58:00 PM
And the difference would be?
See, your talking out of your ass again. If you can carry a intelligent conversation. Why don't you just shut up until you do. Please the the smart ones a break.
Quote from: The Troll on June 27, 2010, 09:48:20 PM
See, your talking out of your ass again. If you can carry a intelligent conversation. Why don't you just shut up until you do. Please the the smart ones a break.
What? Sorry dude but cross hairs are cross hairs and targets are targets so I fail to see the difference and if you can see a difference then explain.
Quote from: me on June 28, 2010, 05:32:28 AM
What? Sorry dude but cross hairs are cross hairs and targets are targets so I fail to see the difference and if you can see a difference then explain.
I can't see one thing different here in American as far a freedom goes. But I can see what unbridled predatory capitalism can do.
Giving corportions the same rights as humans. What in hell is wrong with the Republican controlled Supreme Court. You never see corporations going to prison. Poisoning the environment and nobody goes to prison. Building unsafe and poisonous products through fraud and nobody goes to prison. Breaking the law by hiring illegal aliens and nobody goes to prison.
Sending and outsourcing jobs and manufacturing out of the country to make more money. Making money off the backs of slave workers.
These jobs were "Not Sent Out of this country for Quality or Mass Production." THEY WERE SENT OUT FOR PROFITS.
And the Republican Kool Aid :koolaid: drinking sheeple swallow everything the SUPER RICH PREDATORY CAPITALIST say. A Republican sheeple will vote for a law, even tho it's against their own self interest. Go figure. Chew off their own leg off for a law against their own self interest. Go figure. It don't make sense to me. Insanity is the only thing I can say for the Republican Sheeple. Just plain Nuts. FOR AMERICA AND IT'S WORKERS, THE TROLL :flag: :flag: :flag: :flag: :flag:
So you're saying if you owned a company and could make more money doing business in one place than you could in another you'd stay in the place where you didn't make as much money.
Quote from: The Troll on June 28, 2010, 08:13:54 AM
I can't see one thing different here in American as far a freedom goes. But I can see what unbridled predatory capitalism can do.
Giving corportions the same rights as humans. What in hell is wrong with the Republican controlled Supreme Court. You never see corporations going to prison. Poisoning the environment and nobody goes to prison. Building unsafe and poisonous products through fraud and nobody goes to prison. Breaking the law by hiring illegal aliens and nobody goes to prison.
Sending and outsourcing jobs and manufacturing out of the country to make more money. Making money off the backs of slave workers.
These jobs were "Not Sent Out of this country for Quality or Mass Production." THEY WERE SENT OUT FOR PROFITS.
And the Republican Kool Aid :koolaid: drinking sheeple swallow everything the SUPER RICH PREDATORY CAPITALIST say. A Republican sheeple will vote for a law, even tho it's against their own self interest. Go figure. Chew off their own leg off for a law against their own self interest. Go figure. It don't make sense to me. Insanity is the only thing I can say for the Republican Sheeple. Just plain Nuts. FOR AMERICA AND IT'S WORKERS, THE TROLL :flag: :flag: :flag: :flag: :flag:
Quote from: me on June 28, 2010, 08:26:05 AM
So you're saying if you owned a company and could make more money doing business in one place than you could in another you'd stay in the place where you didn't make as much money.
You think that reasoning would fly with the folks who used to work at Whirlpool?
At some point it is necessary for these outsourcing companies to recognize that the good of the species trumps the good of the individual. Where's Darwin when I need him?
Quote from: LOsborne on June 28, 2010, 08:28:10 AM
You think that reasoning would fly with the folks who used to work at Whirlpool?
At some point it is necessary for these outsourcing companies to recognize that the good of the species trumps the good of the individual. Where's Darwin when I need him?
Probably not but that's the reality of the situation. Companies are going to go where they can make the most profit and if it isn't here then they will go elsewhere.
Quote from: me on June 28, 2010, 08:38:40 AM
Probably not but that's the reality of the situation. Companies are going to go where they can make the most profit and if it isn't here then they will go elsewhere.
Oh no they wouldn't, if it cost them in tax money as much as it cost to make their products here in the United States of American. You are absolutly blind when it comes to taking care of Americans FIRST. Dumbass.
Quote from: The Troll on June 28, 2010, 08:50:34 AM
Oh no they wouldn't, if it cost them in tax money as much as it cost to make their products here in the United States of American. You are absolutly blind when it comes to taking care of Americans FIRST. Dumbass.
:rolleyes:
Quote from: me on June 28, 2010, 05:32:28 AM
What? Sorry dude but cross hairs are cross hairs and targets are targets so I fail to see the difference and if you can see a difference then explain.
Thank you for illustrating my point.
Quote from: LOsborne on June 28, 2010, 08:28:10 AM
At some point it is necessary for these outsourcing companies to recognize that the good of the species trumps the good of the individual. Where's Darwin when I need him?
Actually, those companies sending that work elswhere are shooting themselves in the foot. GM is a perfect example...they sent their production to Mexico where the employees aren't paid well enough to buy their cars and eliminated a large portion of their own cutomers...their employees.
Quote from: me on June 28, 2010, 08:38:40 AM
Probably not but that's the reality of the situation. Companies are going to go where they can make the most profit and if it isn't here then they will go elsewhere.
It's a little more complicated than that but please stop trying to pretend you understand anything about business.