What is the difference between "misspeaking" and lying? Example: Someone tells something about their past to make themselves look good to a certain group of people and it's found to be untrue later: is that lying or misspeaking?
Quote from: me on May 19, 2010, 08:52:41 AM
What is the difference between "misspeaking" and lying? Example: Someone tells something about their past to make themselves look good to a certain group of people and it's found to be untrue later: is that lying or misspeaking?
Politicians like to use the word "misspeaking".....that does not sound like they are a bold faced liar!! John Kerry had this problem...
I know what you're talking about and I agree that in the context it was used that it's sematical in an attempt to reduce the blow of using the word lie.
There is technically a difference though. To misspeak implies that it was unintentional or a mistake.
I think it was a mistake that he lied, but the mistake wasn't unintentional.
Anyway, let he who is in politics and isn't guilty cast the first stone.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 19, 2010, 09:15:47 AM
I know what you're talking about and I agree that in the context it was used that it's sematical in an attempt to reduce the blow of using the word lie.
There is technically a difference though. To misspeak implies that it was unintentional or a mistake.
I think it was a mistake that he lied, but the mistake wasn't unintentional.
Anyway, let he who is in politics and isn't guilty cast the first stone.
Oh crap, now something really is gonna happen. Sandy and I agree on something. :eek:
Snow! in May! for San Diego :biggrin:
You and I agreeing would inspire an event like that ;D
:confused: Someone say snow? :confused: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
Quote from: Palehorse on May 19, 2010, 10:10:02 AM
:confused: Someone say snow? :confused: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
Just remember, ya can't ride the horse in the snow..... :biggrin:
That is like this conversation I was having on another site where the guy said his grandfather was an "unofficial" citizen. Wouldn't that be the same as illegal? I've never heard of an unofficial citizen before.
Quote from: kimmi on May 19, 2010, 11:12:51 AM
That is like this conversation I was having on another site where the guy said his grandfather was an "unofficial" citizen. Wouldn't that be the same as illegal? I've never heard of an unofficial citizen before.
Must be a new politically correct term.
Quote from: me on May 19, 2010, 08:52:41 AM
What is the difference between "misspeaking" and lying? Example: Someone tells something about their past to make themselves look good to a certain group of people and it's found to be untrue later: is that lying or misspeaking?
If you're talking a Senator Blumenthal saying the he was in Vietnam, he was flatass lying. I serve in the reserve during the Vietnam War and never left the states. There is no way that I would say that I serve over there in the war.
I have had some people say thank you for your service and I tell them very quickly that I was never over there, never left the states and thanked my lucky stars that I did have to.
Blumenthal is done, he's cooked his goose. If he doesn't drop out, he sure won't be elected.
Lying about being in any war is one thing no one can lie about and get away with it.
Holy crap the world is gonna end I just know it. Sandy, Troll, and I all agree on the same thing...... :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Quote from: me on May 19, 2010, 01:57:15 PM
Holy crap the world is gonna end I just know it. Sandy, Troll, and I all agree on the same thing...... :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Let us say together, oh those Pennies From Heaven.
Quote from: me on May 19, 2010, 01:06:08 PM
Must be a new politically correct term.
No this guy tried to say that his grandfather came here as an immigrant, worked for a manufacturing company and was an unofficial citizen until he retired and then became a citizen. None of that makes any sense to me.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 19, 2010, 08:57:59 AM
Politicians like to use the word "misspeaking".....that does not sound like they are a bold faced liar!! John Kerry had this problem...
John Kerry was a war hero. He served his time in hell. He was wounded several times. He was the victim of some very good Republican lying. The Swift Boat men were proved to be lier's everyone of the sonuvabitces.
For people who never serve a day in the service of his country or dodged the draft with college deferments should keep their mouths shut.
You mean the whole 4 months and then he came back and proceeded to bad mouth the military in those senate hearings and is a lot of the cause of the vets getting treated like they did when they returned. Don't even start on that idiot.
Quote from: The Troll on May 19, 2010, 11:12:38 PM
John Kerry was a war hero. He served his time in hell. He was wounded several times. He was the victim of some very good Republican lying. The Swift Boat men were proved to be lier's everyone of the sonuvabitces.
For people who never serve a day in the service of his country or dodged the draft with college deferments should keep their mouths shut.
Look dumbass, you know nothing about war. You don't know what he went through.
All you know is what the Republicans and Fox new dreamed up on him and the dumbass Swift Boat Assholes said. I would have liked to stuck your ass in the war he was in.
I get sick and tired of you Chicken Hawk Republican asshole. You damn well know the Vietnam was a war we had no business in and he said it and it was true. We lost a lot of good men over it. Don't get me started on you and your Republican Chickenshit Hawks. :flap: :flap: :flap: :jester:
The Troll :flag: :no1:
dumbass?...chicken hawk republican asshole?..........chickenshit hawk?.......... :no:
Naw, YOU don't call anybody names do ya.. :rolleyes: :razz:
I think I will take the word of 75 swift boat veterans over a piece of dog turd politician.....Kerry was/is a liar...and he got called out on his BS!...
and you call me and me a dumbass?.....whatever dude!! :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 20, 2010, 09:28:30 AMdumbass?...chicken hawk republican asshole?..........chickenshit hawk?.......... :no: Naw, YOU don't call anybody names do ya.. :rolleyes: :razz: I think I will take the word of 75 swift boat veterans over a piece of dog turd politician.....Kerry was/is a liar...and he got called out on his BS!... and you call me and me a dumbass?.....whatever dude!! :razz:
There you go again, half cocked. If you remember the term Chicken hawk was for people who wanted to go to war and have other people killed, but to chicken shit to go themselves. This time I wasn't talking about you. I talking about the Chicken Shit Hawks who use 9 deferments to go to collage, because he had something more important to do. Prick Cheney and also war dodging, AWOL George W. and the other Republican college people. :turk: :turk:
And the 75 so called Swift boaters who weren't' even there where Kerry was, location or time, who would believe the lying sonuvabitches Republicans. :lies: :lies:
Even tho I might think you are a dumbass, I still don't think I have come right out and called you a dumbass. Now, "ME" just last week she called me a dumbass, I think turn around is fair play. You didn't see me cry and come unglued. Stick and stone may hurt my bones, but names will not hurt me. :'( :'( :'( :biggrin:
The Troll :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :salute:
Don't get me wrong, I am not crying what so ever...........just making an observation. ;)
I'm still ready to grab a tenderloin and a cold one!!...... :razz:
ps,
I find you to be somewhat of a dumbass TOO!!!.. ;D (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/salute_smilie.gif)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 20, 2010, 04:21:42 PMDon't get me wrong, I am not crying what so ever...........just making an observation. ;) I'm still ready to grab a tenderloin and a cold one!!...... :razz: ps, I find you to be somewhat of a dumbass TOO!!!.. ;D (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/salute_smilie.gif)
Why, thank you Mr. Henry Hawk. Your such a :sweetheart:
Quote from: me on May 19, 2010, 08:52:41 AM
What is the difference between "misspeaking" and lying? Example: Someone tells something about their past to make themselves look good to a certain group of people and it's found to be untrue later: is that lying or misspeaking?
The guy was lying. Pure, flat out, and simple.
Quote from: Locutus on May 20, 2010, 06:43:52 PMThe guy was lying. Pure, flat out, and simple.
Would you please say who and what did this guy say that was a lye. It should be a smiple thing to back up.
Quote from: The Troll on May 20, 2010, 07:05:57 PM
Would you please say who and what did this guy say that was a lye. It should be a smiple thing to back up.
Who = Richard Blumenthal
What he said is the subject of this thread.
So tell me Troll how long and in what branch did Clinton serve? Yer interjectin' crap that don't matter.
Quote from: The Troll on May 20, 2010, 03:42:19 PM
There you go again, half cocked. If you remember the term Chicken hawk was for people who wanted to go to war and have other people killed, but to chicken shit to go themselves. This time I wasn't talking about you. I talking about the Chicken Shit Hawks who use 9 deferments to go to collage, because he had something more important to do. Prick Cheney and also war dodging, AWOL George W. and the other Republican college people. :turk: :turk:
And the 75 so called Swift boaters who weren't' even there where Kerry was, location or time, who would believe the lying sonuvabitches Republicans. :lies: :lies:
Even tho I might think you are a dumbass, I still don't think I have come right out and called you a dumbass. Now, "ME" just last week she called me a dumbass, I think turn around is fair play. You didn't see me cry and come unglued. Stick and stone may hurt my bones, but names will not hurt me. :'( :'( :'( :biggrin:
The Troll :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :salute:
Quote from: me on May 21, 2010, 12:46:39 AM
So tell me Troll how long and in what branch did Clinton serve? Yer interjectin' crap that don't matter.
8 years as Commander in Chief of the total United States Armed Forces. Does that answer your question. :rolleyes: :biggrin:
Quote from: Locutus on May 20, 2010, 10:50:52 PM
Who = Richard Blumenthal
What he said is the subject of this thread.
I agree with you 100% on Blumenthal, his statements on TV sure cooked his ass.
I thought you might have been talking about Kerry. Henry said in a post just before yours that he would believe the 75 asshole Swift Boat turds before the would believe Kerry about his combat action.
That's not what I meant and you know it.
Quote from: The Troll on May 21, 2010, 09:13:33 AM
8 years as Commander in Chief of the total United States Armed Forces. Does that answer your question. :rolleyes: :biggrin:
Quote from: me on May 21, 2010, 05:22:50 PM
That's not what I meant and you know it.
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