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Title: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Gardengirl on April 03, 2009, 10:48:58 AM
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Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Exterminator on April 03, 2009, 10:57:49 AM
Here's a clue: this is an opinion forum and you obviously have none.  If we want to read crap, we can go to WND ourselves.
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Bo D on April 03, 2009, 11:09:26 AM
Have you ever noticed that she drops these smelly little piles on here and never sticks around to suffer the stench.

From the WND pile ... "It's named the "Melanie Blocker Stokes Mother's Act" after a pharmaceutical sales manager who killed herself by jumping out of a window after receiving four cocktails of antidepressants, anti-anxiety and antipsychotic drugs and electroshock therapy following the birth of her child."

A different viewpoint from the NIH..."On February 23, 2001, Melanie Blocker-Stokes, a Chicago, IL, native and successful pharmaceutical sales manager, wife, and mother, gave birth to a daughter. After the birth of her daughter, Mrs. Blocker-Stokes developed a devastating mood disorder known as postpartum psychosis. She was admitted to Chicago-area hospitals three times, each time for 7 to 10 days. Despite medical assistance and the support of her family and friends, Mrs. Blocker-Stokes lost her battle with postpartum psychosis and jumped from a 12-story window ledge to her death on June 11, 2001."
http://olpa.od.nih.gov/legislation/108/pendinglegislation/postpartum.asp (http://olpa.od.nih.gov/legislation/108/pendinglegislation/postpartum.asp)

This is nothing new. I remember my wife and I being counseled about this before the birth of our first more than 30 years ago.

Knowing what is causing the depression and knowing that there is help is comforting to a new mother.

Oh...btw... in case anyone is interested, here is a link to the bill....
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.324: (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.324:)

Notice this ...
"                  focus on--

                        (i) raising awareness about screening;

                        (ii) educating new mothers and their families about postpartum conditions to promote earlier diagnosis and treatment; and

                        (iii) ensuring that such education includes complete information concerning postpartum conditions, including its symptoms, methods of coping with the illness, and treatment resources.
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Palehorse on April 03, 2009, 11:13:01 AM
Nice job Bo!  8) :yes:
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Exterminator on April 03, 2009, 11:14:58 AM
Does that mean tofu doesn't make people gay?   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Palehorse on April 03, 2009, 11:17:35 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 03, 2009, 11:14:58 AM
Does that mean tofu doesn't make people gay?   :biggrin:

No. . . it does!  :spooked: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Bo D on April 03, 2009, 11:19:54 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on April 03, 2009, 11:17:35 AM
No. . . it does!  :spooked: :biggrin:

Oh, man. Don't tell me that. I like tofu! And my elbows are still out when I walk.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Ma and Pa on April 03, 2009, 11:21:31 AM
Especially if you skip around in a pink ballet tutu while you eat it. The only known antidote is T-bone steak, rare.
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Bo D on April 03, 2009, 11:23:40 AM
 :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

You guys are killin' me. I swear I'm not gay. But I'm not homophobic either.
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 03, 2009, 11:25:42 AM
Quote from: Bo D on April 03, 2009, 11:23:40 AM
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

You guys are killin' me. I swear I'm not gay. But I'm not homophobic either.

and you REALLY like tofu?.............hmmmmmmmmmmmmm :confused: :o
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Exterminator on April 03, 2009, 11:27:36 AM
LMAO...this reminds me of a funny story I heard about a skydiving aquaintance...he apparently told another jumper's girlfriend that he knew he wasn't gay because he sucked a **** once and didn't like it.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Ma and Pa on April 03, 2009, 11:28:38 AM
Bo D is muy macho, despite his diet!
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Henry Hawk on April 03, 2009, 11:30:22 AM
i just shot earwax right out of my ear...............

people down the hall are wondering WHAT is the mater with me..........THAT....may be the funniest and .... most disturbing thing I have heard today.....  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Bo D on April 03, 2009, 11:44:58 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 03, 2009, 11:25:42 AM
and you REALLY like tofu?.............hmmmmmmmmmmmmm :confused: :o

Well ..... yes. And I am confident enough in my manhood to admit it.  :biggrin:

(I don't really claim the macho part, though.  ;) )
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Exterminator on April 03, 2009, 11:49:32 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 03, 2009, 11:30:22 AM
i just shot earwax right out of my ear...............

people down the hall are wondering WHAT is the mater with me..........THAT....may be the funniest and .... most disturbing thing I have heard today.....  ;D ;D

It gets worse...there's this cute girl at work who used to date him and he told her that too!  They didn't date much longer after that...go figure.
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: me on April 03, 2009, 11:51:27 AM
Whoa..... :eek:<backs quietly out of the thread and goes back to eating>
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Bo D on April 03, 2009, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from: me on April 03, 2009, 11:51:27 AM
Whoa..... :eek:<backs quietly out of the thread and goes back to eating>

Whatcha eatin'?

:eek:
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: me on April 03, 2009, 12:50:59 PM
Home made veggie soup.
Quote from: Bo D on April 03, 2009, 11:55:12 AM
Whatcha eatin'?

:eek:
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Palehorse on April 03, 2009, 01:25:26 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on April 03, 2009, 11:49:32 AM
It gets worse...there's this cute girl at work who used to date him and he told her that too!  They didn't date much longer after that...go figure.

They call him "smegma lips"!  :biggrin: :spooked:
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: me on April 03, 2009, 02:55:34 PM
 :toothless:
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: pariann on April 10, 2009, 08:43:12 AM
Quote from: Bo D on April 03, 2009, 11:09:26 AM
Have you ever noticed that she drops these smelly little piles on here and never sticks around to suffer the stench.

From the WND pile ... "It's named the "Melanie Blocker Stokes Mother's Act" after a pharmaceutical sales manager who killed herself by jumping out of a window after receiving four cocktails of antidepressants, anti-anxiety and antipsychotic drugs and electroshock therapy following the birth of her child."

A different viewpoint from the NIH..."On February 23, 2001, Melanie Blocker-Stokes, a Chicago, IL, native and successful pharmaceutical sales manager, wife, and mother, gave birth to a daughter. After the birth of her daughter, Mrs. Blocker-Stokes developed a devastating mood disorder known as postpartum psychosis. She was admitted to Chicago-area hospitals three times, each time for 7 to 10 days. Despite medical assistance and the support of her family and friends, Mrs. Blocker-Stokes lost her battle with postpartum psychosis and jumped from a 12-story window ledge to her death on June 11, 2001."
http://olpa.od.nih.gov/legislation/108/pendinglegislation/postpartum.asp (http://olpa.od.nih.gov/legislation/108/pendinglegislation/postpartum.asp)

This is nothing new. I remember my wife and I being counseled about this before the birth of our first more than 30 years ago.

Knowing what is causing the depression and knowing that there is help is comforting to a new mother.

Oh...btw... in case anyone is interested, here is a link to the bill....
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.324: (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.324:)

Notice this ...
"                  focus on--

                        (i) raising awareness about screening;

                        (ii) educating new mothers and their families about postpartum conditions to promote earlier diagnosis and treatment; and

                        (iii) ensuring that such education includes complete information concerning postpartum conditions, including its symptoms, methods of coping with the illness, and treatment resources.
And back to the topic...kinda.   When I was pregnant with itty bitty, I was well aware of the postpartum depression, and actually made an appointment for evaluation to determine if I might succumb.   I had already had 8 kids and don't believe I ever suffered from it, but I had become well aware of it because of all the incidents in recent years attributed to it.   Glad to say, I didn't suffer from it the 9th time either.   

I think there is a greater awareness of it and it's being addressed early enough just as a matter of course.   I didn't read the article or about the bill.  Just for the record.





And all you men just aren't right. LOL
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: Bo D on April 10, 2009, 09:23:05 AM
Quote from: pariann on April 10, 2009, 08:43:12 AM
And all you men just aren't right. LOL

I can't speak for the other dudes but I have a good excuse. I can't find the bench!  ;D
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: pariann on April 10, 2009, 10:08:14 AM
damnit...someone moved it again!!!!
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: mcgonser on April 10, 2009, 05:24:12 PM
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm14/mcgonser/A_Park_Bench.jpg)

Will this one do?
Title: Re: Forced mental health screenings and drugs on new moms and others?
Post by: pariann on April 10, 2009, 05:36:59 PM
No, that is not my bench.  It doesn't look anything like that. AND there is only room for two people, no matter what size they are.