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Title: The New American Tea Party
Post by: Sandy Eggo on March 07, 2009, 10:35:46 AM
QuoteBOSTON, MA - Rick Santelli plans to throw the world's most expensive Tea Party to protest of the Stimulus Plan, serving hundred dollar bills steeped in hot water!

Santelli is an arch-conservative CNBC reporter, who has received a lot of media coverage over the last week for an on-air rant decrying government spending and waste embodied, he says, by the passing of the recent stimulus bill.

His new organization, The New American Tea Party, acting like an umbrella organization encompassing several fiscally conservative political watch and advocacy groups, aims at undermining the stimulus by preventing the funds from reaching their assigned targets.

"There is so much pork in this bill it would give the healthiest man a heart attack!"  Santelli bellowed on CNBC.  "Millions here for the arts.  Millions there for roads.  What's a couple hundred million for unemployment benefits?!  Sure, why not?  Lets encourage people not to get jobs.  Let's just give them more taxpayer money to not work and not pay taxes which would go to someone else who is not working!"

"It's lunacy!"

http://weeklyworldnews.com/politics/6517/new-american-tea-party/

It's somewhat amusing to see a band of desperate Republicans who appear to want to pretend that the economic crisis has not been occurring over the past eight years and blame it all on the current administration.

The same sheep who recently claimed there wasn't an economic crisis.

From their website:

QuoteThis action is being taken by those of us who believe freedom of choice is more important than governmental control,

LMAO! Considering that this is an extreme right wing group, funded by right wing conservative money, it appears that money is what has finally gotten them excited, but only because it's a Democrat calling the shots. They couldn't have cared less that Bush was throwing away money hand over fist.

So, freedom of choice applies when it comes to money, but not your body. :rolleyes:



http://www.teapartyboise.com/
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: me on March 07, 2009, 10:50:37 AM
The problem is all the pork, and yes some of it is Republicans, that is being added to the bills and the taxes that are being implemented to pay for it.  No, maybe it isn't income tax but its a tax just the same.  Gas tax, user tax, capitol gains tax, cigarette tax, alcohol tax, you name it they're talking about taxing it.
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: Ma and Pa on March 07, 2009, 11:20:40 AM
Here's another problem: I'm sick and tired of all these egocentric blowhards, never mind their political affiliations, who are so desperate to have their faces on TV, newspaper pages, and the Internet that they pose themselves as experts on the aspects of the stimulus bill and its ramifications for our economic future -- whether they really understand it or not, They rant, rave, and point fingers at items they consider to be worthless pork, while their evil twins rant and rave to defend the same. I think most of them could care less about the whole issue; they're really only interested in promoting themselves. Maybe we should leave the final dispensation on the matter to the ultimate look-at-me idjit, Donald Trump!    :mad:
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: Palehorse on March 07, 2009, 04:09:34 PM
Let's not talk about taxes shall we? I just finsihed mine early this morning and needless to say I cannot sit down!  :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: me on March 07, 2009, 07:47:41 PM
I've normally got mine done by this time but I've been procrastinating bad this year.
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: DannyBoy on March 07, 2009, 09:53:24 PM
The newamericanteaparty.com website is very interesting.


Santelli is just like Rush....false extremists whose job it is to sell TV and Radio ads by drawing as much attention to themselves as they can.
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: Ma and Pa on March 07, 2009, 11:58:56 PM
Right on, Dannyboy! You've seen the emperor without his clothes. Looks pretty goofy, doesn't he? And let's give a shout out to the race hustlers, too, like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and their ilk. These guys' worst nightmare is true racial harmony -- they'd have to go out and find real jobs! And those are getting kinda hard to find.   >:(
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: Gardengirl on March 08, 2009, 06:33:54 PM
Tons of people I know are sending a teabag to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. on April 1 to protest our tax monies being spent so foolishly on this "bailout." Over 9000 "earmarks" (used to be called Pork) in the spending bill and lots of Dems are not happy with it, either. If you feel the same, all it costs is a teabag and a stamp.
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: kimmi on March 08, 2009, 06:52:26 PM
A teabag and a stamp?  Really? 

The problem with "fixing" this country is that there are a large portion of Americans who don't want it fixed!!  If they didn't have something to bitch about, they would not be happy.  I'm not excited about the money that is being used to save AIG, but I know what will happen to too many people if it doesn't get help.  You might want to save your teabag and stamp money for that rainy day! 

We need to start supporting each other and our country.  That is not going to happen if we continue down this right side/ left side bullsh*t!  How about there is no sides and we all work really hard to keep this country moving forward?

What the hell is a teabag going to accomplish?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: Ma and Pa on March 08, 2009, 07:34:28 PM
Kim: I suppose we're all too young to remember the unity of purpose that brought this country through WW 2. Yeah, we "talked the talk" in the dark days immediately following 9/11/01, but when it came time to "walk the walk", we all took off in different directions. I have serious doubts as to our national ability to pull together in one accord; if it were possible to do so, it would be in response to an event of such catastrophic proportions that I am skeptical that we could prevail. I hope I'm wrong.   :(   Dejected Pa
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: me on March 08, 2009, 08:35:08 PM
Quote from: Ma and Pa on March 08, 2009, 07:34:28 PM
Kim: I suppose we're all too young to remember the unity of purpose that brought this country through WW 2. Yeah, we "talked the talk" in the dark days immediately following 9/11/01, but when it came time to "walk the walk", we all took off in different directions. I have serious doubts as to our national ability to pull together in one accord; if it were possible to do so, it would be in response to an event of such catastrophic proportions that I am skeptical that we could prevail. I hope I'm wrong.   :(   Dejected Pa
I think the whole problem is we are old enough to remember how it was when the government wasn't expected to be our keeper.  We relied on each other and took responsibility for our own actions and no one was there to bail our a$$es out.  We survived and did just fine. 
I'm probably saying this poorly but the government is doing more harm than good by interfering in business.  Once a tax is implemented it will never go away even though the particular need for whatever it was implemented for has so once there always there.  Look at the big picture rather than just the tiny little segment that might help you in the short term. What is the long term cost of this short term help?  Let these businesses fail and, yes, some will suffer in the short term but the long term prognosis will be better overall. 
Ya'll keep spouting off about Bush's war putting us in this hole.  Well, how much of a hole would we have been in had the terrorists kept blowing sh*t up and killing people here plus the cost of Katrina and trying to get our military back up to snuff from the Clinton years? 
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: kimmi on March 08, 2009, 08:50:03 PM
I don't blame this on Bush's war, I blame this on the banking industry taking policies put in place by Clinton and then STRETCHING them so wide, that they became cash cows for lots of people.  People in these positions have lost their ability to "do what is right" out of pure selfishness.  Now the rest of us who didn't get rich when the gettin' was good and/or lost the farm because of it are having to pick up the pieces.  Sadly as Ma and Pa said, our country is full of so many people pointing fingers, that we will be hard pressed to get out of this situation any time soon. 
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: DannyBoy on March 08, 2009, 10:47:04 PM
I've gotten the tea bag to DC email a few times....I'm thinking about it but........Send a tea bag to Washington in the "security" atmosphere created by GW and you may find your house surrounded by Homeland Security and FEMA.
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: dan foster on March 08, 2009, 11:31:10 PM
Quote from: me on March 07, 2009, 10:50:37 AM
The problem is all the pork, and yes some of it is Republicans, that is being added to the bills and the taxes that are being implemented to pay for it.  No, maybe it isn't income tax but its a tax just the same.  Gas tax, user tax, capitol gains tax, cigarette tax, alcohol tax, you name it they're talking about taxing it.

Some of it Republican?  The GOP pork is more, per GOP member, than for the Democrats.
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: me on March 09, 2009, 01:39:43 AM
Quote from: dan foster on March 08, 2009, 11:31:10 PM
Some of it Republican?  The GOP pork is more, per GOP member, than for the Democrats.
Since when is 40% more than 60%? And in the first porkulous package the Dems had almost all if not all of it. Wrong is wrong and they're both wrong for doing it. 
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: Exterminator on March 09, 2009, 07:27:51 AM
Quote from: me on March 08, 2009, 08:35:08 PM
I'm probably saying this poorly but the government is doing more harm than good by interfering in business.

LMFAO!  Oh, please do grace us with your wealth of business knowledge.

QuoteYa'll keep spouting off about Bush's war putting us in this hole.  Well, how much of a hole would we have been in had the terrorists kept blowing sh*t up and killing people here plus the cost of Katrina and trying to get our military back up to snuff from the Clinton years?

:rolleyes: Get a clue: there was no connection between 9/11 and Iraq so that argument is garbage.  What you are essentially saying is that as long as the hundreds of billions are spent trying to give you quivering cowards the illusion of security, you're ok with it.  Well, here's some news for you...if our economy collapses, the level of violence you'll see in our society will make 9/11 look like child's play so you'd better hang up your partisan crap and get behind anyone who is actually doing something more than giving lip service to fixing the problems that Bush and you neocons created.
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: Exterminator on March 09, 2009, 07:29:49 AM
Quote from: Gardengirl on March 08, 2009, 06:33:54 PM
Tons of people I know are sending a teabag to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. on April 1 to protest our tax monies being spent so foolishly on this "bailout." Over 9000 "earmarks" (used to be called Pork) in the spending bill and lots of Dems are not happy with it, either. If you feel the same, all it costs is a teabag and a stamp.

By tons of people do you mean a lot or just a few who are really fat?  I think we should each send you a douche-bag.
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: Exterminator on March 09, 2009, 07:30:32 AM
Quote from: Ma and Pa on March 07, 2009, 11:20:40 AM
Here's another problem: I'm sick and tired of all these egocentric blowhards, never mind their political affiliations, who are so desperate to have their faces on TV, newspaper pages, and the Internet that they pose themselves as experts on the aspects of the stimulus bill and its ramifications for our economic future -- whether they really understand it or not, They rant, rave, and point fingers at items they consider to be worthless pork, while their evil twins rant and rave to defend the same. I think most of them could care less about the whole issue; they're really only interested in promoting themselves. Maybe we should leave the final dispensation on the matter to the ultimate look-at-me idjit, Donald Trump!    :mad:

You just described several people on this forum.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: dan foster on March 10, 2009, 10:40:06 PM
Quote from: me on March 09, 2009, 01:39:43 AM
Since when is 40% more than 60%?

when the 40% pushes more than 40% of the pork...
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: me on March 10, 2009, 10:41:53 PM
Quote from: dan foster on March 10, 2009, 10:40:06 PM
when the 40% pushes more than 40% of the pork...
Huh?  The Republicans only wrote 40% of the pork that was in the bill that meant the Dems wrote 60% of it.
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: dan foster on March 10, 2009, 10:45:16 PM
Quote from: me on March 10, 2009, 10:41:53 PM
Huh?  The Republicans only wrote 40% of the pork that was in the bill that meant the Dems wrote 60% of it.

Sorry, they took a bigger share than just 40.  In fact, the GOP was the largest spenders, per member, taking 6 of the top 10 spending spots.
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: Exterminator on March 11, 2009, 07:05:06 AM
Apparently, 'per member' is difficult to understand.

No one said there'd be math!
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: mcgonser on March 11, 2009, 10:54:07 AM
Quote from: dan foster on March 10, 2009, 10:45:16 PM
Sorry, they took a bigger share than just 40.  In fact, the GOP was the largest spenders, per member, taking 6 of the top 10 spending spots.
Then why does California have 15% of the total pork for their state. I believe those 3 women of Eastwich(boxer, fienstein and Polisi) are dems. Acturally the Dems have the majority of the pork but for me any part of the pork is too much. I am personally going to see what reps from this state are supporting and will vote next time by this vote.Otherwise if they supported the bill I will be against them no matter what party they are. I think it is time for a new House and Senate myself and plan on not voting for anyone to stay next time.
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: Exterminator on March 11, 2009, 11:26:13 AM
Quote from: mcgonser on March 11, 2009, 10:54:07 AM
Then why does California have 15% of the total pork for their state.

I know this'll be hard for you to wrap your little mind around but could it simply be because they are one of the largest and most populous states?
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: kimmi on March 11, 2009, 11:53:35 AM
The one thing I find interesting is the thinking that all of these things that are considered "pork" are not new.  The government has been paying for this stuff for years and years. 

Here in North Carolina they are all bent out of shape because McCain used the beaver control in one of his last speeches against the pork.  The government has been funding this animal control since 1992.  So apparently the Clinton Admin. and the Bush Admin. seemed to think it was worth while.  Now all of a sudden it is pork. 
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: Exterminator on March 11, 2009, 12:45:28 PM
Quote from: kimmi on March 11, 2009, 11:53:35 AM
The one thing I find interesting is the thinking that all of these things that are considered "pork" are not new.  The government has been paying for this stuff for years and years.

That's because politicians on both sides of the aisle bandy about the word 'earmark' and use them as specific examples of wasteful spending.  Since the majority of the public doesn't understand the way the process works, they buy into this political double-speak.  The reality is that an earmark is only an allocation of some part of an agency's budget for a specific purpose.  Adding or removing earmarks doesn't change the amount of money allocated to an agency; it only changes who is in control of what is done with those funds.
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: DannyBoy on March 11, 2009, 10:01:27 PM
Sounds like you've got some Dr. Paul in you Ex.
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: dan foster on March 11, 2009, 10:09:31 PM
Quote from: DannyBoy on March 11, 2009, 10:01:27 PM
Sounds like you've got some Dr. Paul in you Ex.

Dr Paul, Dr Kevorkian; some of my favorite heroes.  The independence of thought and sense of personal and financial freedom are long gone in most of our public figures.  The dems picked the smartest guy on their team, and they won.  The smartest guy on the GOP side is Ron Paul, but intelligence, and the Constitution, scare the shit out of those folks.  To the "conservatives", Ron Paul is a joke, but Rush is a "serious" kinda guy.  Talk about twisted.
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: xman on March 13, 2009, 02:48:28 PM
 "Rick Santelli plans to throw the world's most expensive Tea Party to protest of the Stimulus Plan, serving hundred dollar bills steeped in hot water."

I wish he'd send some of those hundred dollar bills my way. It sure would stimulate me!
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: me on March 13, 2009, 03:02:58 PM
Quote from: xman on March 13, 2009, 02:48:28 PM
"Rick Santelli plans to throw the world's most expensive Tea Party to protest of the Stimulus Plan, serving hundred dollar bills steeped in hot water."

I wish he'd send some of those hundred dollar bills my way. It sure would stimulate me!
Me too.... :yes: :biggrin:
Title: Re: The New American Tea Party
Post by: Ma and Pa on March 13, 2009, 03:58:45 PM
Wonder if I could get my doctor to prescribe "hunnerd dollar tea" for my achin' back? Then Blue Cross might send me a stack of Franklins to brew a few cups. Hmmm....