NEW PREAMBLE TO THE CONSTITUTION ...

[Henry Hawk]

This is from an email being circulated...don't really know who the arthor is but, I like it, and it is probably controversial enough to engage a conversation so here it is:


"We the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid more riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the blessings of debt-free liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great-grandchildren, hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt ridden, delusional and other bed-wetters. We hold these truths to be self evident: that a whole lot of people are confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim they require a Bill of NON-Rights."

ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV, or any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything.

ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc.; but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.

ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful; do not expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.

ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes . (This one is my pet peeve...get an education and go to work....don't expect everyone else to take care of you!)

ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would be nice, but if it would turn out the same way as current public housing, we're not interested in public health care.

ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be surprised if the rest of us want to see you put away for the rest of your sorry life.

ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where you still won't have the right to a big screen color TV or a life of leisure.

ARTICLE VIII: You do not have the right to a job. All of us sure want you to have a job, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful. (AMEN!)

ARTICLE IX: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means that you have the right to PURSUE happiness, which by the way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an over abundance of idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.

ARTICLE X: This is an English speaking country. We don't care where you are from, English is our language. Learn it or go back to wherever you came from!
(and Last but not least....)

ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country's history or heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one God. You are given the freedom to believe in any religion, any faith, or no faith at all, with no fear of persecution. The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part of our heritage and history, and if you are uncomfortable with it, TOUGH!

[Gryphon]

and I was almost with ya...right to the end....

[Henry Hawk]

and I was almost with ya...right to the end....

BINGO!!... ...That is exactly where I thought the "controversy" would come in...

[me]

I'm with it 100%. 

[Gryphon]

BINGO!!... ...That is exactly where I thought the "controversy" would come in...

well I disagree with it because there are piles of evidence that it wasnt the case at all.

[followsthewolf]

What he said.

[me]

Ok I'll bite.  Information please.  Educate Henry and me. 

[Henry Hawk]

Ok I'll bite.  Information please.  Educate Henry and me. 

Me, There are some that believe, that our forefathers were not God-fearing men....and that the Bible had NOTHING to do with the construction of our declaration of independence or the foundation of this country.....and they ARE wrong...period.

[me]

Where in the world did they ever come up with something like that anyway? 

[awol]

here ya go, liars.

The motto IN GOD WE TRUST was placed on United States coins largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War. Secretary of the Treasury Salmon P. Chase received many appeals from devout persons throughout the country, urging that the United States recognize the Deity on United States coins. From Treasury Department records, it appears that the first such appeal came in a letter dated November 13, 1861.

http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.shtml


hardly "founding fathers" time...

[Gryphon]

Ok I'll bite.  Information please.  Educate Henry and me. 

oh if youve been online for more than 15 minutes, Im sure youve seen it.
Despite what Henry would LIKE to believe, our founding fathers very wisely saw that separating religion and goverment were for the betterment of both.

[?]

Where in the world did they ever come up with something like that anyway? 

They would come up with that because the supreme law of the land makes no reference to any deity. 

[?]

Me, There are some that believe, that our forefathers were not God-fearing men....and that the Bible had NOTHING to do with the construction of our declaration of independence or the foundation of this country.....and they ARE wrong...period.

History doesn't discount the fact that the founders believe in a deity.  Most were deists.  As to the foundation of the country, I'll refer you to the above.  The supreme law of the land, which is the ultimate "foundation" of this country, makes no reference to a deity.  None. 


Now if HH's supposition were true, that the founders intended this form of government to be based on religion, then one would further suspect that they would have written it into the supreme law of the land.

Quite the contrary happened instead.  The founders were well aware of the problems in mixing government with religion.  Wisely, they crafted our form of government based on the separation of church and state.

[me]

Would it make you feel better if it read this way?

You do not have the right to change our country's history or heritage.  The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part of our heritage and history, and if you are uncomfortable with it, TOUGH!

[Sandy Eggo]

Would it make you feel better if it read this way?

You're a self proclaimed agnostic, so why would YOU care about this:

You do not have the right to change our country's history or heritage.  The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part of our heritage and history, and if you are uncomfortable with it, TOUGH!