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Locutus

#15
February 16, 2017, 12:49:09 PM
You sure they were downstream from the bridge?  3/4 of a mile downstream looks like it would put them right at the Wabash, if not in it. 
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Palehorse

#16
February 16, 2017, 01:09:29 PM
Quote from: Locutus on February 16, 2017, 12:46:26 PM
I see my problem now.  I was looking for this area to the east of the town, but it's actually to the south-southwest of town.  That's why I couldn't find it.

Actually the Monon High Bridge Trail also has a bridge to the NW of the city, within the city itself as well.

If you do a google map for Delphi, then once there search for the Monon High Bridge there is another bridge in the city itself. It appears it isn't that one to me,  but there is another one. FYI. . .
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Palehorse

#17
February 16, 2017, 01:12:31 PM
Quote from: Locutus on February 16, 2017, 12:49:09 PM
You sure they were downstream from the bridge?  3/4 of a mile downstream looks like it would put them right at the Wabash, if not in it.

That's what the report I watched early on stated. . . It may have been refined since that time. To be honest, I've avoided the story as much as possible because it seriously infuriates me. This is a horrible crime that victimized two innocent children and their families. I cannot fathom what I'd doff one of those girls were my grandchild. . .  :mad:

The police are VERY closed mouthed surrounding this crime, as they should be,and aren't providing many details at all. So it is possible that some of the"information" the media is providing is based upon assumptions and not real information provided by investigators.  Normally local press would be publishing maps with the location of the bodies marked. . . But nothing. . .
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Locutus

#18
February 16, 2017, 01:19:08 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on February 16, 2017, 01:09:29 PM
Actually the Monon High Bridge Trail also has a bridge to the NW of the city, within the city itself as well.

If you do a google map for Delphi, then once there search for the Monon High Bridge there is another bridge in the city itself. It appears it isn't that one to me,  but there is another one. FYI. . .

Are you sure we're looking at the right area here?  The original article you posted states that police are looking for people who may have been taking pictures around that Monon High Bridge.

"Police want to speak with anyone who was in the area of the landmark Monon High Bridge may have seen someone, heard someone, or taken pictures."

That would put the location of the murders on the other side of town from where we're currently looking. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

#19
February 16, 2017, 01:21:01 PM
Hank, is the picture you posted of the Monan High Bridge or is that the bridge in the area that PH and I are discussing?
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

#20
February 16, 2017, 01:35:53 PM
Quote from: Locutus on February 16, 2017, 01:21:01 PM
Hank, is the picture you posted of the Monan High Bridge or is that the bridge in the area that PH and I are discussing?

Okay, I think I sorted it out.

Hank's picture is indeed of the Monan high trail bridge nearby where the bodies were found.  The map we're looking at is in the wrong area.  The Monan High trail head is on the opposite area of town to the east of route 25. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

#21
February 16, 2017, 01:43:07 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on February 16, 2017, 01:09:29 PM
Actually the Monon High Bridge Trail also has a bridge to the NW of the city, within the city itself as well.

If you do a google map for Delphi, then once there search for the Monon High Bridge there is another bridge in the city itself. It appears it isn't that one to me,  but there is another one. FYI. . .

I am not sure, but given the location the police were shown to be inhabiting during news reports, I assumed it was the one I posted. I might be wrong. But if you look at the location to the NW of the city, it is within he city itself,and not rural. How do 2 girls get murdered there without anyone hearing or seeing anything? Especially mid-afternoon?
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Henry Hawk

#22
February 16, 2017, 01:45:54 PM
Quote from: Locutus on February 16, 2017, 01:21:01 PM
Hank, is the picture you posted of the Monan High Bridge or is that the bridge in the area that PH and I are discussing?
All I know is that the picture said it was the bridge where the two girls were found....
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Locutus

#23
February 16, 2017, 01:48:17 PM
The Monan High bridge trail head is depicted on this map here and is to the east of the city.

http://www.indianatrails.com/?q=content/monon-high-bridge-trail-delphi

Police are looking for this man for questioning about the case.  :spooked:



One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

#24
February 16, 2017, 01:48:59 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 16, 2017, 01:45:54 PM
All I know is that the picture said it was the bridge where the two girls were found....

I think you're right Hank.  That was indeed the bridge and it's located at the pin on the map at the link I posted just above.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

#25
February 16, 2017, 02:04:01 PM
Quote from: Locutus on February 16, 2017, 01:48:59 PM
I think you're right Hank.  That was indeed the bridge and it's located at the pin on the map at the link I posted just above.

Okay. That is bridge 3 across the Deer Creek. And it does indeed appear to be an abandoned rail bridge.

The problem I am having is how the hell did they get to it? What little news coverage I have seen on this showed the trail head location . . .But they did say they were found downstream from an abandoned RR bridge. That appears to be the bridge in question.

I discounted the north west location due to the superstructure framework on that bridge. There is none at the location I previously posted, but the RR bridge on your map appears to be the actual spot. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

#26
February 16, 2017, 02:18:36 PM
Yeah I wondered how they would have accessed that area as well.  I don't see any roads around there where they could have been dropped off.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

#27
February 16, 2017, 04:28:54 PM
Look at the Mary I Gerard Nature Reserve off of W 300 N.  The trail is very close by there and the abandoned railroad bridge is close to there too.  I'll bet that's where they accessed the trail.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

#28
February 16, 2017, 07:01:17 PM
Quote from: Locutus on February 16, 2017, 04:28:54 PM
Look at the Mary I Gerard Nature Reserve off of W 300 N.  The trail is very close by there and the abandoned railroad bridge is close to there too.  I'll bet that's where they accessed the trail.

Yeah i assumed that too. The local media though showed the bridge at the spot I erroneously identified earlier as the drop off point for the girls, and authorities swarming the spot. . . Misleading to say the least. . .

Local news did have a spot this evening with the landowner of the property upon which they were found. And they showed a railroad bridge, complete with rails still in place, which they said was the bridge they were discovered downstream of. . .

Investigators say they have spoken to everyone that was in the area on Monday, except for the unidentified individual depicted within your earlier post. He has still not come forward nor has anyone identified him. . .  :spooked:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

#29
February 16, 2017, 07:03:24 PM
So the picture that Hank posted earlier is indeed the bridge?
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson
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